I find Americans are funny. This program will benefit China for sure, you will get a lot more 3rd party accessories from China at cheap price. You think who produce the parts for your repair? Also, China people will have easy access using the Manual, and they can do better job than Americans.
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iFixit Lauds Apple's New Self Service Repair Program, Calls It a 'Remarkable Concession'
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I'm good with right to repair and generally in favour of it; but is there an expectation that things will work after a person has tried to repair on their own, and meets failure and then takes the device to apple. Will Apple then agree to fix it? Expectation for Apple to take the repair part back if one fails to fix the issue?
People have the right to complain. Capitalism shouldn't just go unchecked.
Why you worry about the cost? China will send a lot 3rd party parts to you bro.
From Apple's announcement:
"Self Service Repair is intended for individual technicians with the knowledge and experience to repair electronic devices. For the vast majority of customers, visiting a professional repair provider with certified technicians who use genuine Apple parts is the safest and most reliable way to get a repair."
iFixit is being a little disingenuous, if you ask me...You should check China “Hua Qiang Bei”. Then you will understand what is it about.
The celebration isn't for where parts are coming from, guy. It's about the mind shift of a behemoth corporation that leads to the path of producing even less ewaste.
It benefit those 3rd party repair shop, but not consumers.
While Apple give you 1:1 exchange, you prefer to have repairs. What to do.
Because you didn’t know the real world. You think they will produce less parts when they commit to sell you the parts? More 3rd party parts will come in soon.
Apple try very best to stop China “Hua Qiang Bei” to keep making fake iPhone, fake airpods, they are really good in repairs and restoring the old iPhone to look like new.
But Apple effects are all wasted now. The spare parts markets goong to cheer up!
Do you plan to fix the chip too? Qualcomn should let user repair their chip if broken.
Do you really think consumers going to repair by themselves? Ofcos no. And Apple is losing their IP too when they can let ppl buy the parts now.
I'll give you credit for a high degree of difficulty on the routine, but the question is whether you could stick the landing... 😉If you guys need help, I used to do these one-handed.
Not sure who cares about this but the ‘right’ to repair people also lost their entire argument that somehow Apple was getting rich of repairs…
This is not a good thing!
Apple this morning surprised the world with an unexpected "Self Service Repair" program, which is designed to allow customers access to genuine Apple parts, tools, and manuals for making their own device repairs.
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Giving customers this kind of unprecedented access to repair guidelines and hardware is a major win for Right to Repair advocates, and we're starting to hear from repair outlets pleased with Apple's decision.
Well-known device repair and teardown site iFixit says that its team is "excited" about the news, and hopeful that Apple will be providing customers with the same information that it gives to Apple Authorized Service Providers.
iFixit points out that Apple's decision invalidates many of the arguments that it has been making against the Right to Repair movement for years because Apple is acknowledging that repairs can be done without harm to consumers or their devices. Apple has previously argued that customers could injure themselves by accidentally puncturing a battery during a device repair, which is apparently no longer a concern. "We're thrilled to see Apple admit what we've always known: Everyone's enough of a genius to fix an iPhone," reads iFixit's coverage of Apple's announcement.
Kyle Wiens, iFixit founder and CEO, said on Twitter that Apple's decision marks a "total shift in perspective" and that there's hope that this is a step toward making devices last longer.
While this is a major step forward, iFixit points out that there are a number of unknowns and caveats. It's unlikely that Apple is going to allow customers to use parts that are sourced from somewhere other than the online store Apple is building, and the ready availability of official parts could see Apple further lock down iPhone components through serialization, restricting the use of third-party parts or parts salvaged from other iPhones.
Other repair advocates agree that Apple's move is a win for Right to Repair, but there's more to be done. iFixit says it will keep fighting for laws that will "keep Apple and other manufacturers honest," while the Right to Repair Coalition, which represents several repair shops and trade groups, said this is "far off" from the requirements of Right to Repair, but shows legislators are on the right track if Apple has been spooked into allowing for customer repairs.
Nathan Proctor, who heads up the Right to Repair campaign with the United States Public Interest Research Group, called Apple's move a "huge milestone" for Right to Repair, while repair advocate Kevin O'Reilly called it a "huge win," but said concrete reforms are still needed.
Apple's Self Service Repair program will launch in early 2022 in the United States, and it will start with Apple making repair components available to iPhone 12 and iPhone 13 owners. Apple plans to expand to additional countries throughout 2022, and will also work to support more repairs and more devices over time.
Article Link: iFixit Lauds Apple's New Self Service Repair Program, Calls It a 'Remarkable Concession'
Apple figured out they can sell more phone when people break their current one...
It was inevitable that repairs would get easier but first Apple would have to reduce the complexity of the internals.
That takes time. It requires the internal components to become simpler and simpler so that users don't get hurt or damage their device further.
My main concern is about e-waste. There should be strong visible reminders to take spare and old parts back to an Apple Store for safe disposal and not to throw them in the general trash.
That takes time. It requires the internal components to become simpler and simpler so that users don't get hurt or damage their device further.
My main concern is about e-waste. There should be strong visible reminders to take spare and old parts back to an Apple Store for safe disposal and not to throw them in the general trash.
No. This move by Apple is basically nothing more than a pre-emptive attempt to say they're offering a diverse range of repair options by the time real right to repair cases go to court or congress starts asking. Apple only does things like this if they think they're at risk of having to sacrifice even more revenue in the future.
It is a lost to consumers actually, a big win to 3rd party repair shop.
They can use cheaper China 3rd Party parts to fix your iPhone now.
He obviously uses it with a bit of self-service for his own business, but I've not heard prices being high.
I'd also suggest a screen replacement or chip replacement isn't in the same realm as surgery.
Apple's plan seem to involve entire logic board or entire device replacement for a much higher exorbitant price when only a small component repair is needed. Apple isn't going to eagerly self-police that policy abuse in benefit of a customer's wallet. Reputable repair shops have a place.
They will need to produce more parts than usual now. Those parts is going to standby in warehouse and waiting ppl to buy.
You check “Hua Qiang Bei” in China then you will get the whole idea. From your theory, China would be the less ewaste country. They should be our role model.
Exactly what I said in the other article. It got me two thumbs down. Lol 🤣