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iFixit Shares Apple Vision Pro Teardown
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Are you saying they "screwed" us wit so many screws? 🤣
There's a reason for every single screw, and probably the same reason that you're not an engineer on the Vision Pro team.
Thunderbolt is nowhere near fast enough, even if we weren't talking about passthrough feeds (+other cameras, sensor data, and all the other stuff that would need to feed INTO the compute part) and only talking about 4K@96Hz per eye video from the compute to the displays it's not even close (47.76 Gbps required, TB4 only has 34.56 Gbps effective bandwidth)
Onboard compute is clearly the only way to achieve any of this
Do you use your iBook as your daily computer? I haven’t started mine up in a few years, but that seems like it would be painful now! If you can handle regularly using a 2001 iBook currently, I would expect you would be able to use an AVP in 2047 (but I’m not sure anyone else could!)
LOL, what did you think something this complex was gonna be $50?
Good thing no one is requiring you to buy one eh? Meaning it’s not a problem at all.
iPhone... everybody had a phone
iWatch... everybody had a watch
putting glasses to see a movie in 3D... flop
So, HiTec wanna play with our senses... that's their sense of the future...
Apple thinks this niche product will serve a gazillion of niche interests, we'll see.
iWatch... everybody had a watch
putting glasses to see a movie in 3D... flop
So, HiTec wanna play with our senses... that's their sense of the future...
Apple thinks this niche product will serve a gazillion of niche interests, we'll see.
Not everyone had a phone. Now everyone has a phone. But the iPhone is the most popular phone.
Not everyone had a watch. Now not everyone has a watch. But the Apple Watch is the most popular.
Apple has not said or even indicated that the AVP will serve a gazillion niches. But yeah, we’ll see.
I think Apple know what they’re doing.
This isn't a proper teardown video--it's just iFixit doing its job of belittling Apple.
Remember, iFixit has partnered with Goophabet. There's your answer.
Remember, iFixit has partnered with Goophabet. There's your answer.
People on here blow my mind. Didn't see any "belittling." Vision Pro has a ton of screws! Big whoop. I wouldn't expect anything less given the tech packed into this thing. Ifixit's whole POV is predicated on user repairs. They rate stuff on how easy or difficult it is for a user to repair it. It doesn't mean the thing isn't good at doing whatever it is supposed to do. Given Apple's track record of switching to some choices that make user repairs more difficult, it's not surprising that they may come to an Apple product with that as part of a greater context. I'm saying this as someone who will be taking apart my Macbook Pro 2012 Retina and replacing the glued in battery in a couple of days using a kit from ifixit.
That and if i understand apple correctly, this is a playground for what they want it to become.
It's supposed to be and acts as an untethered stand alone AR device, not VR goggles for your existing things.
They used workaround because the tech to make it semitransparent simply isn't there yet, but the amount of effort they put into the front eyes just to keep the AR illusion is baffling, and the finesse to work flawlessly with passthrough + overlays.
IMO what will make this even more interesting will be common VR for multiple people, so shared experience. No doubt it's bound to happen.
Well it depends on your needs, i still run tiger on that machine and still use Adobe CS2, which might lack some (a lot) of features but it is stilla great tool for many task.
You’ll be surprised to know it’s not painfully slow, actually it is as fast as it was back then, you open 500- 1 gib files nowadays, they were much smaller back then.
As i mostly work on vector graphic it really isn’t that bad.
Now it is not my only machine, i also use an iPad Pro M2 11 inches, but, for everything computer I have either a G4 iBook or a Dual 867 MDD running like a charm.
Am I missing something? Surely a lot, but I am as happy as I could be working on my PowePC macs, actually looking for more as i find working on PPC macs not only nostalgic but also fascinating.
There has been very little i could not do so far (except for web, but as i said that is a good no distraction thing for me) sure it takes more work than appying a plugin or using an Adobe macro or something similar in new versions, but i still enjoy what i do and love to do it “manually.”
It wouldn’t be possible if i was working with video, but for Vector, I am really, really happy about my set up.
I have no need / will to even try an AVP, i have my Quest 3 for gaming and that’s all i need, i could use it for work as well as it runs as second screen (to a pc i could have access to), but i really don’t see myself using anything like an AVP or Quest for that.
I’d gladly spend those money and fill my house on PowerPC!
the one i am using still has a full battery life and is in pristine condition considering its age….too bad for the French keyboard, but i will get an Italian one.
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Pros: external battery pack with removable cable. More likely to be replaced components such as the headbands and light seal cushions are super easy to swap out.
Cons: the battery pack comes with a proprietary 12-pin lightning cable, anything else requires a lot of careful prying and using heat to unglue. No internal components are upgradable (standard for most compact computers these days, but we shouldn't forget we used to be able to easily add/replace storage and RAM).
We'll have to wait and see what happens when people start dropping their Vision Pros on the floor what kind of repairs are needed.
They nearly were. June of '97 you could have gambled on Apple for 13 cents a share. I should have bought several shares of stock instead of a can of soda that month.
Oooh. Loved the 2012 for upgrade. Battery, SSD, and RAM.
The fact the AVP has so many screws, shows it is repairable. The biggest problem with its repairability seems to be getting into the darn thing and the quality of the technician in removing ribbons etc without breaking it. Also of course, not knowing what is supposed to come apart and in what order is the key to disassembling it. And that is the value of ifixit in these videos. It’s irrelevant on how tough it might seem based on an initial tear down.
Thunderbolt 5 delivers 120-160GB/s. That's enough for 2x6K. So - 2x4K plus Cam works just fine.
Cool! Now you've got me wanting to boot up my iBook from 2001, though I'm still running OS9 on it, as I was kept it to run some legacy apps. Maybe I should try swapping drives and see how OSX compares!
If yours is an iBook G4, I don't think it can be quite as old as 2001 since I'm pretty sure I was only able to get a G3 in late 2001 and the G4 didn't come out for a couple more years. Either way, I expect I would still find it prettty slow, so kudos to you for your patience. I think I did upgrade my 7500 to a G4, but haven't booted it in so long that I'm not sure. Now you've got me feeling retro...if I had more ambition tonight (and more space to unpack boxes), I would dig them out and try them, plus my old Amiga 2000 just to see if it still boots up.
Thunderbolt 5 devices don’t exist yet and can only theoretically deliver 120Gbps bandwidth in a single direction. There are 12 cameras on the headset that all need to have their feeds processed by the compute unit (not to mention additional realtime sensor data) and THEN the combined image has to be sent back upstream which is probably approaching 80Gbps alone. This is also just bandwidth and not latency.
Offboard compute down a wire just isn’t feasible for what this device is able to do
Next to the costs of its development... man... the sheer amount of covers, connectors, screws, sticky tapes, separate pcb's this thing has. Assembling it sure needs a lot of manual labour. I'm not surprised that it is so expensive.
You could go to FHD - but 12 cameras won't work, of course. Maybe it's too early for something like that if you can't build it small enough...
Don’t want to derail the thread, but the MDD with 700 mb ram will def kick bums, it is a zippy machine (with the software of that era).
I run CS5 in it, Office and some other cool app, very little wait, very little beachball.
What I am worried with newer devices is that there is little repairability and it is very sw depend especially with IOS once the os is not supported, good luck installing older apps and keeping using it like i do with my older devices.
iOS devices are disposable, once Apple decide to give up, you have to move on, you can hang for a bit, but then devs move on and with no possible way to downgrade and install the software yourself you are out of luck.
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Nice.
Back in the old days Philips had engineers that could put more strings, belts, gears and rails and all other mechanical stuff into their devices than actually was necessary. Buttons would fall off just by looking at it. 😄
Agree... I have the QuickSilver G4 2x 1GHz. Back then it was a beast and I used it up to 2017. On some projects I teamed it up with my MacPro 2008 of render tasks. The MacPro 2008 is still in use today (running Ventura) - I'm typing this on it.