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Fans? Freaking hell, looking inside that thing you can see why it's so expensive.

Apple really should have just concentrated on making a good display without cramming so much stuff in there that it needs active cooling.

Exactly this - I’m running the LG 5K 27” display that I got for ~$850 when it was on initial discount after launch, when everyone screamed enough about Thunderbolt 3 accessory pricing for Apple to give 30% off for a few months.

The Studio Display is a better device, in particular the speakers, but a) I simply can’t get my head around it needing two fans and such a beefy power supply, and b) almost 2x the price I paid, with no 120hz refresh rate.

I both appreciate apple’s re-entry into the monitor space, but this isn’t a device that’s going to get me away from the LG 5K… I really wanted something in the 32” 6K space for $1500-2000, though that may be dreaming.
 
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Exactly this - I’m running the LG 5K 27” display that I got for ~$850 when it was on initial discount after launch, when everyone screamed enough about Thunderbolt 3 accessory pricing for Apple to give 30% off for a few months.

Remember that!?

Honestly, with the aging technology here, it's kind of egregious that the LG offering hasn't gone below $1k as the new MSRP at this point
 
I'd rather a slightly thicker iMac with an integrated power supply and ethernet. It's just not an "all-in-one" if everything is not actually "in-one."
 
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Almost same specs from 5K iMac and LG Ultrafine...
And yet not the same panel. MR and others need to stop throwing around the words “exact” and “identical” for things that are not exact nor identical because it just feeds this:

So the display panel IS the same panel used in the 27" iMac ?
It is not the same panel.
 
So the display panel IS the same panel used in the 27" iMac ?

And it costs how much? $1599 ?
The last consumer Apple display, the Thunderbolt Display, was priced at a cool $1000 in 2011. That's close to $1300 in 2022 dollars. So let's not clutch our pearls too hard at this costing a few hundred bucks more.

and it's not a Touch screen?
Why would they do that for a desktop monitor? Nobody wants to reach up and poke around at a big horizontal display out in front of them at the proper viewing distance. It's an ergonomic nightmare.
 
confirmed at that time that the Studio Display Camera is essentially identical to the iPhone 11 camera.
Another one…. They didn’t confirm anything. They pulled two cameras out with different shapes and different part numbers and decided since they’re both 12MP, they are “pretty much identical”. It can’t be “pretty much” or “essentially”, identical— it’s identical or it’s not identical. iFixit didn’t bother to do anything more than compare resolutions.

It‘s fun to see the insides of things, but its better to keep the sound off for iFixit teardowns. The words are meaningless.
 
There's no reason why Apple couldn't have put an m1 pro or max in there, with the option of running in iMac mode, stand alone monitor mode, and/or tvos mode. Seems like a missed opportunity.
I wonder... could MacOS be run on the A13 inside? It wouldn't be as fast as the M1, but could it be done?
 
Has anyone considered that that a 27in isn't currently possible based on thermal limitations of the new form factor? Maybe a 27in with an M1 Max/Ultra wasn't possible because of the thermal budget wasn't large enough. So Apple created the next best solution by separating the product into Mac Studio/Studio Display.
 
Here's a database with the exact model numbers of all 5K panels currently known:


Presumably the article version of the iFixit teardown will have high-res photos where the panel's model number is visible.
 
That internal power supply is amazing.



Doubt it. iMac's have a "chin" to show off the color; it doesn't make any sense for Apple to design an entirely different product just to bump up the display size to 27". Also, seems pretty unlikely Apple would shove an internal power supply and an M1 Pro/Max/Ultra in an enclosed space for no reason.
The chin still exists for one main reason: they wanted to make the iMac as thin as possible to look svelte and impressive in the middle of a living space. Showing the colors and retaining the iconic fascia also surely played a part, not disagreeing there. But if they tried to cram the computer behind the screen itself, it would have required more thickness. For the studio display, they clearly didn't care about thickness as much, since it's more likely to be in a dedicated work space rather than a living space. Otherwise, as others have pointed out, they typically have no hesitancy integrating power supplies--in fact it seems like they find it to be a fun challenge based on this teardown.
 
Can someone explain why having an internal power supply such a feat of engineering? And why did it require a 50% thicker chasis? My much more power-hungry 27" Intel iMac already has an internal power supply -- is it such a feat they were able to do for a monitor here?
What they said is a little exaggerated. It's not impressive that it's internal; it's impressive how thin it is for a power supply. PSUs in general are fairly "tall" even in say the 2017 iMac line because of their components. The nice curvy lines of the old iMac design sort of "hid" how thick it gets in certain parts. This display is on average much thinner which is partly enabled by the fact that the PSU board has cutouts in it for the biggest components on that board. That's not common (just look at the screen cap from the video side by side with the above link).

Now if you ask yourself, "why does the M1 iMac have an external PSU yet they designed this thing to have an internal PSU?"...I really don't have any idea. I would tend to agree that it doesn't seem like the initial intention behind this design was to be "just" a standalone display.
 
Can someone explain why having an internal power supply such a feat of engineering? And why did it require a 50% thicker chasis? My much more power-hungry 27" Intel iMac already has an internal power supply -- is it such a feat they were able to do for a monitor here?
Power supplies tend to have some of the biggest components on a board such as inductors and capacitors. Getting it spread out this thin over a large area is not as easy as building your box to put on the outside. The iMac had a lower chin to fit everything in there. Also it wasn’t designed to power a macbook pro like this display.
 
So in other words. Apple found a way to sell an iMac with no hard drive that is unusable unless you plug another Mac into it.

It works with Windows if you have a thunderbolt port on it. I can use it with my PC setup, only thing is I can't adjust brightness on it. You can set the brightness in mac and it will use that brightness for windows i think. Pushes out 5k just fine. Windows volume control works on it. Haven't tried the camera on it in Windows. Don't care about camera quality personally though. Biggest annoyance is that they only have one port for connecting to the display so I have to switch it out :/

TB on windows is a bit expensive I will say, but looks awesome on this display.
 
I would love to replace my 24" 4k with this, and relegate my 27"4k to "support" duty. The price is just a bit steep for me though. Maybe if my display dies, or we start seeing used/refurbs for around $1200/$1300 I'll bite.
When it goes to refurb, the cheapest it will be is $1359.00 = $1599 X .85, which is the standard Apple refurb percentage off. Just an FYI.
 
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It absolutely is not. It’s a far brighter panel with higher constant. This has been clearly show in Max Tech vids. Do better MacRumors.

The extra brightness was likely achieved through better cooling allowing them to raise the backlight output higher. A higher peak brightness is not indication of some drastic change. However, that would warrant a slight model number change which Apple could then call "all new." Going off LG's 5K model database, there are no model numbers that indicate there has been anything more than minor revisions to the 5K panel since it was introduced in 2015 or whatever. It is the same panel as the iMac and UltraFine with some minor revisions (likely better cooling for a higher peak brightness) and a small form factor change to mate to the different enclosure.

I would also trust iFixIt to correctly identify parts over what Apple PR says or some random forum members hope is true.
 
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