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I had the same thought/question (here's to not seeing it get lost in the sea of petty bickering). My first thought was that NFC was included to allow iPads to be used as pay terminals (so they can't send payments but they could receive them).

That's actually a good guess. I wonder if it is for a future software feature that hasnt been announced and is awaiting the bigger iPad. It's strange that it's included when apple is only using NFC for apple pay.
 
Pretty sure the iPad Air 2 will last just as long. Pretty sure if you use it a couple hours a day it will easily last you multiple days. Unless you provide screenshots of your iPad 2 giving you 70 hours of on screen time (Average 10 a day) without being put to charge then this will be fine and also spec wise this destroys the iPad 2 :)

Specs aren't everything. Usability and battery life are important, too.
 
And this is why Apple is going down, a smaller battery would have never happened under Steve Jobs.

And yes this is another "would not have happened under Steve Jobs" but it's true. This is a set back, not progress. Battery life is ever more important today then it ever was and yet they go back, ridiculous. People do not need smaller form factors, they need battery.

I love my Macbook Pro, but the last few years nothing good has come from Apple (apart from Yosemite, I do like that).
 
Smaller battery but same battery life. If thinness makes the tablet easier to use, then yea go ahead and shrink the battery as long as it gives me the same great battery life.

That'd be fine if they were hard to use before. Hell, the original iPad was totally fine. They're making them thin just to try making them thin. There's no purpose at this point.

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It's about pushing the limits. Engineering impossible designs. Delivery impossibly-sleek devices. What's wrong with that? And a smaller battery does not necessarily mean decreased battery life. Software is a big factor and iOS 8 is out now.

Even if the battery life is the same, they should have improved it instead of making it thinner for the hell of it. There's no purpose in making it thinner. It accomplishes absolutely nothing.
 
Yep, and if it wasn't battery it would be something else!:cool:

We'll soon read some new complaints about 2GB of Ram and 3 cores are not enough, trust me!

Apple always does it so wrong, that's why they keep selling a ton of products and keep building up cash! All because they never have enough Ram, pixels, battery or cores etc, blau blau blau! Oh ya, and their phones bend easy.:rolleyes:

In fact everything Apple does suck balls! I guess when you're the best :apple: you're going to get the hits! And the hits just keep going!
 
That's actually a good guess. I wonder if it is for a future software feature that hasnt been announced and is awaiting the bigger iPad. It's strange that it's included when apple is only using NFC for apple pay.


The iPad has no NFC! PEOPLE come on..

It has no NFC Antenna . How is it going to do NFC?
 
What is Apple planning with NFC? Apple Watch, iPhone 6/Plus, and the iPad Air 2 (and possibly the iPad Mini 3) all have it, but the iPads can't use it. There has to be some big plan with it in the future. Hopefully the NFC chip will be opened up to 3rd party developers like we saw with the Touch ID
 
Those crying about battery life, who in the world is using the iPad more then 10hrs in one day?
 
NXP 65V10 NFC Module (as found in the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus)

From iFixIt.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPad+Air+2+Teardown/30592

Perhaps you are thinking about the previous iPads.

[edit] Forgot about the lack of an NFC antenna. [/edit]

Right.

That's my point. If it has no NFC Antenna there is no way that it can connect to anything NFC . So it has no NFC .

Maybe they are just sharing parts between iPhone and iPad and the module is just part of the board, but without an NFC Antenna that chip does nothing from what I can see..
 
So let me see if I get. This has way better performance than an iPhone 6, same camera, bigger screen, laminated screen but costs 200$ than an iPhone. That is some serious milking on the iphone
 
What is Apple planning with NFC? Apple Watch, iPhone 6/Plus, and the iPad Air 2 (and possibly the iPad Mini 3) all have it, but the iPads can't use it. There has to be some big plan with it in the future. Hopefully the NFC chip will be opened up to 3rd party developers like we saw with the Touch ID

Oh man. Help me jesus.

The iPad has no NFC dude. It is just sharing parts with the iPhone. That chip does nothing.

That chip probably costs 0.50¢

I know this NFC thing is new for you iPhone guys, but on android phones we have had it forever, and I never use it.

NFC is an ANTENNA, like Bluetooth or WiFi. That's how it connects.
 
The battery on the iPad Air 2 is a fail in my opinion, how about making it thinner and also 1 hour more battery. To say it's thinner and also retains the same battery is not spectacular. If they made it thinner and also increased battery by 1 hr now that would be "wow"

With every new iPad, they should be bragging that it last's longer than the previous iPad not that it stays the same. It's so odd that they keep making the battery smaller, the device thinner and battery still sucks. I don't get it.

I'm waiting for the time when the keynote says: "The #1 item our customer's are asking for is longer battery"

While you have every right to express your opinion, you're wrong. The iPad doesn't have a battery problem (it never has) and most users would never notice an increase in battery life, but they will notice reduce thickness and weight.

Your argument would be sensible if you were talking about the iPhone, but not the iPad. I have no idea why you think the iPad's battery life "sucks". As far as I can tell, you either have never owned one or run benchmarking software all day.
 
The article says this iPad contains the same NFC chip that is in the iPhone 6/6+, so why aren't Apple Pay store payments allowed?

My guess would be the practicality.

NFC has a limited range, and I don't know about where you live but here in the uk , the vast majority of shops have the 'card machine' in a place that would make it difficult to align the iPad's NFC onto it.

Plus how many people really go walking around town with their iPad in their hands?
 
And this is why Apple is going down, a smaller battery would have never happened under Steve Jobs.

And yes this is another "would not have happened under Steve Jobs" but it's true. This is a set back, not progress. Battery life is ever more important today then it ever was and yet they go back, ridiculous. People do not need smaller form factors, they need battery.

I love my Macbook Pro, but the last few years nothing good has come from Apple (apart from Yosemite, I do like that).

Then switch to something else instead of whinning!;) I'll sell you my iPad Air with bigger battery and less specs, if you'd like???:rolleyes:

I'll take a light weight ballistic speed (A8X 2GB Ram & 3 Cores), smaller battery (with almost same life), and better screen, over a 1hr difference in battery life, all day long!;)

Where is my delivery???:cool::apple:
 
IFixit didn't reveal 2GB of ram.

We assume it is 2GB.

We don't know what part number "Elpida (Micron Technology) F8164A3MD" is, and neither does ifixit. They told us the part number and said there are 2 of them.

There is no listing anywhere for this part, even in Micron's catalog, and so the only thing we can go by are the benchmark software to tell us
Why do you keep stirring it everywhere? What is the point? Do you really have to nitpick details when we already know for multiple sources that the thing has 2GB? Or you think that we are all delusional and until you have HARD evidence in your hands that tells you that the part number means this or that then you will not leave it alone?
Just move on, please! I've already seen some of your posts elsewhere which had aggressive tone in them (or provoking if you want a milder word) so just leave it please. You had your fun and now its time to move on.
Thank you
 
Has there been confirmation of no NFC antenna to go along with the chip? Apple knows that iPads are used as POS terminals, would make sense to allow them to receive NFC signals.
 
I bought the iPad Air last Christmas. It has been working great for me. It would be nice to have touch ID. However, I don't think the features of the current model warrant me selling my current model and getting Air 2, just so I can say I have it.
 
Not when my iPad 2 can last easily for a week of constant use, if not more, on one charge. One full day isn't good enough. It's a step backwards, not forwards.

Hmm...I just looked at Engadget's review of the iPad 2 and their battery test result was 10 hours 23 minutes. Cnet's review was 7 hours 41 minutes continuous video playback. If your iPad 2 gets a week's worth of battery life with constant use on one charge you are the exception not the norm. Apple has never claimed iPads get a weeks worth of usage on one charge. Their claim is 10 hours of battery life which is what the Air 2 gets.
 
Why do you keep stirring it everywhere? What is the point? Do you really have to nitpick details when we already know for multiple sources that the thing has 2GB? Or you think that we are all delusional and until you have HARD evidence in your hands that tells you that the part number means this or that then you will not leave it alone?
Just move on, please! I've already seen some of your posts elsewhere which had aggressive tone in them (or provoking if you want a milder word) so just leave it please. You had your fun and now its time to move on.
Thank you

Maybe he wants someone to physically count all 2GB of ram to believe it... Can you even do that? One by one? :eek:
 
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