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Wait, haven't Macs had accelerometers in them since the first MacBooks? I remember a Stevenote with Steve swinging some sort of 'Book around.

And there is a pre-existing api:
How is this different?
In case you haven't found an answer here: the accelerometers used to be for parking the heads on a hard drive in the event of a drop, providing some protection against a catastrophic head crash. (Many HDDs incorporated an accelerometer—I'm not sure how many Macs had a separate sensor or just read that.) The switch to SSDs did away with this freefall detection need, and thus the accelerometer... until now.
 
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I love how hostile all the comments are on Macrumors. It's starting to sound like Slashdot circa 1998 when the blue iMac came out.
We are not "hostile". Just pointing out the obvious fact that these new machines are $200 more and yet corners were cut in the base model SSD. Still no upgradable RAM and SSD. This means no buy for me.
 
We are not "hostile". Just pointing out the obvious fact that these new machines are $200 more and yet corners were cut in the base model SSD. Still no upgradable RAM and SSD. This means no buy for me.

Sounds like you need to switch to a different computer manufacturer as Apple going forward will not have user-upgradable RAM and SSD.

Which company will you be going with for your computer needs?
 
A remarkably snarky delivery on the part of that youtuber. Quite irritating to listen to.
 
All these slower things should be fixed by Apple in the next M3 MacBook.
So Apple should say “ look dudes we make a better MacBook ever ...”
 
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We are not "hostile". Just pointing out the obvious fact that these new machines are $200 more and yet corners were cut in the base model SSD. Still no upgradable RAM and SSD. This means no buy for me.

Don't hold your breath. We're now in an era where even Apple's workstation class desktops are more appliance like with zero upgradable components.

If you're not hung up on using macOS:

 
Apple are saying in real world use, the SSD is faster… so why didn’t they use just one SSD in the bigger SSD models?
 
You can't tell sound quality from a YouTube video or YouTube influencer. You have to go actually listen to it or you're listening to the recording of it not the laptop...
Even better, you're probably listening to the recording through your own computer's speakers!
 
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Absolute quality no, but relative quality yes since both notebooks are side by side on the same environment and were recorded by the same microphones. And Max Tech gave his opinion as well.
As I mention above, it really is hard to discern things because you're listening to a recording, likely through your own computer's speakers. So if your computer speakers have a prominent midrange, then a laptop with a recessed midrange might sound better than one with a balanced midrange—compensatory errors. Plus your own computer's speakers add their own distortions, making the actual differences harder to perceive accurately.
 
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Along with the 256GB NAND storage chip, iFixit's teardown revealed other logic board components that include the 64-bit 8-core M2 chip, an Apple-designed Thunderbolt 3 driver, a USI Bluetooth and WiFi chip, and curiously, an accelerometer. There's no word yet on what the accelerometer might be for.

Maybe the accelerometer can be used as additional input, like the sudden motion sensor of the hard-drive MacBook from the days of yore. Like playing a game of Pong. Or switching desktops.
 
Or maybe the accelerometer is for use by "Find My" in conjunction with the ultra wide band chip that is allegedly also on the M2 MacBook Air
 
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Another generation and another cash grab. Well done Timmey! consumers are buying it proudly.
I definitely would call the M2 MacBook Pro a cash grab. And so is the Apple Watch Series 3 at this point.

But what’s the issue with the M2 Air? Beautiful new design, faster chip, MagSafe. This is most people’s dream for the perfect laptop. So I’m missing your point here.
 
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But what’s the issue with the M2 Air? Beautiful new design, faster chip, MagSafe. This is most people’s dream for the perfect laptop. So I’m missing your point here.

For me the obvious issue with the last two macbook airs is that they are heavy. They basically weight as much as two 2020 12.9' ipad pros.

If your idea of a perfect laptop is a prettier macbook pro, with nearly all the capabilities for most things then you'll be happy. This is surely a lot of people. However, if your idea of a laptop is something that you use only for travelling because all your heavy work is done on a desktop, it might not be as elevated an ultrabook as you want.
 
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Might the accelerometer be related to spatial audio or other similar features? It would make sense for such a “mobile” laptop to borrow tech from the other mobile device range.
Upon M2 launch, I noticed something on the product comparison pages that would indicate that these M2 MacBooks and the most of the M1 14-16” MBPs feature different hardware related to Spatial Audio than most of Apple’s previous Macs.
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The M1 14-16“ MBPs match the M2 Air and Pros audio specs.

But the M1 air, 13 pro, mini and studio all lack them partially or entirely.

To me, this means that you get (gyro assisted) Spatial Audio directly through the built in speakers, no AirPods needed.

Whether this means airpods and gyro in Macs work together is unclear.

But then again, it also kinda reads as if SA on AirPods with dynamic head tracking doesn’t work for M1 air and m1 13” pro? But is that true? I’m pretty sure it’s not.

*I have no clue how SA works and haven’t cared to look into it as I’ve been so unimpressed by it.
 
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Apple can do whatever they want. If they come out with a 15" version I will be first in line for the Midnight color and will happily cover it in fingerprints.
 
In my experience, during Apple's latter Intel days, they seemed to struggle compared to PC manufacturers with the category they created: lightweight, powerful machines, both in that they ran hotter than PC equivalents and were oftentimes heavier. There were PC equivalents that weighed less, throttled less, and even had discrete GPUs.

Now Apple has this huge leg-up with better chips, but it seems like their design team still struggles to make the best of what they have. It's not as if the Air is that light compared to what PC manufacturers are shipping with 12th generation Intel chips. Imagine Apple designing around those.

They obviously excel in some areas that they don't in others. I can't imagine they don't know how to do better thermal design. Maybe their designs have to do with what is easiest and most predictable in final assembly which they have far less control over? No idea, just a guess.
Considering components, benchmarks and pricing, I'm struggling to be impressed by any of these M2 Macs at all.

By comparison, the "old" M1 Air and 13" Pro are just so much higher value per $.

This heightened value/$ becomes even more true as M1 Air and 13" are seeing very deep discounts almost two years after launch. Plus the 8/256GB M1 entry-level configurations are a perfectly fine option while equivalent M2 configs are not.

I can't help but think that Apple was too concerned with high profit margins and could have easily made something much lighter/thinner, or same size as what we got but faster, if they were just willing to lower profit margins a bit.

A missed opportunity in most areas. Way too close to M1 to warrant new products and new chip names.
 
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In my experience, during Apple's latter Intel days, they seemed to struggle compared to PC manufacturers with the category they created: lightweight, powerful machines, both in that they ran hotter than PC equivalents and were oftentimes heavier. There were PC equivalents that weighed less, throttled less, and even had discrete GPUs.
They ran hotter than PC “equivalents” that had loud fans. They were heavier than PC equivalents that were constructed of cheap plastic instead of precision-machined aluminum alloy. They had far better battery life than PC equivalents with discrete GPUs.

Those were not flaws, but design choices. Design choices that made MacBooks so popular that Microsoft executives were often caught on camera using them as their own personal devices.
 
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We are not "hostile". Just pointing out the obvious fact that these new machines are $200 more and yet corners were cut in the base model SSD. Still no upgradable RAM and SSD. This means no buy for me.
Apple always cripples base model products to create a low base price for enterprise buyers while incentivizing most users to pay more for the adequately configured versions. This is nothing new.
 
I think the answer is likely to be that the MBA motherboard is going to be doing double duty as the M2 iPad Pro motherboard. There's no huge heat sink and it has an accelerometer, something not present on any other Mac laptop. So why's it there? It's probably the same reason 64GB exists on the Apple Studio Display: they are leveraging existing supply lines that are on the iPhone 11 and the SE. They're probably going to use this on the iPad Pro, only with a much smaller battery. The iPad Pro needs an accelerometer; the MBA doesn't.
 
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