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Replacing an SSD is not trivial for most people because you have to get your old system completely functioning onto the new SSD.

RAM upgrades should be simple, but the RAM is integrated. Could Apple provide an empty slot? I guess.
You don't have to guess. They already did it on all MBP models pre-2012. And for SSDs on all MBP models pre-2016. It's a deliberate choice not to, based on pure greed so that they can ream users with the insane RAM/SSD Apple Tax. I suspect we are going to see both plug-in RAM and SSDs on the upcoming Mac Pro M1 Extreme, otherwise the comparisons to the Intel Mac Pro with up to 1.5TB RAM will be rather embarrassing.
 
You don't have to guess. They already did it on all MBP models pre-2012. And for SSDs on all MBP models pre-2016. It's a deliberate choice not to, based on pure greed so that they can ream users with the insane RAM/SSD Apple Tax. I suspect we are going to see both plug-in RAM and SSDs on the upcoming Mac Pro M1 Extreme, otherwise the comparisons to the Intel Mac Pro with up to 1.5TB RAM will be rather embarrassing.
The RAM in the Studio isn't soldered to the board, is it actually part of the SiP / SoC. That simplifies the routing between the memory controller and the memory, and helps them achieve the performance they do with a unified memory (memory shared between CPU & GPU).

If they offer large amounts of RAM on the Mac Pro, I'm guessing it will be like a tier 4 memory, or some kind of NUMA architecture, and will be slower than the RAM built into the SiPs.
 
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The RAM in the Studio isn't soldered to the board, is it actually part of the SiP / SoC. That simplifies the routing between the memory controller and the memory, and helps them achieve the performance they do with a unified memory (memory shared between CPU & GPU).

If they offer large amounts of RAM on the Mac Pro, I'm guessing it will be like a tier 4 memory, or some kind of NUMA architecture, and will be slower than the RAM built into the SiPs.
Well obviously!
 
It’s ridiculous. One of the few advantages of it not being part of the display - easy cleaning, and they make it so you have to strip everything out. Apple really do hate their customers.
My experience has been that things are designed to be easily assembled or easily serviced. This was designed to be easily assembled.
 
The issue with non-upgradable components is that you cannot just buy today what you need looking at your needs now or in the near future: you need to buy now trying to account for what you might need much later in the lifecycle of the product.

Needs do evolve, sometimes unexpectedly, meaning that non-upgradable components might become quite limiting in the effective life of a product unless one has the means and willingness to buy today well above their current needs to cover for the future.
I get it. But just like with anything else in life, you deal with those unexpected changes when they happen. You buy a 2-seat sports car, your family grows, and now you need an SUV. You can sell the sports car and buy an SUV if and when you need it, rather than searching for a sports car that can be modified into any type of vehicle you might need in the future. Computers just seem to me to be commodities - buy what you need/want now, then toss it and replace it when necessary. I'm not keeping this thing forever.
 
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If Max Yuryev from Max Tech was able to put back together his, I don't think iFixit had any problem.
Where does this obnoxious hate come from? I've seen ifixit doing excellent teardowns in the past and produce excellent guides for upgrades.
Did I miss something, have they hurt someone's feelings or equipment?

There only 'fault' is there where a bit slower this time...
 
I get it. But just like with anything else in life, you deal with those unexpected changes when they happen. You buy a 2-seat sports car, your family grows, and now you need an SUV. You can sell the sports car and buy an SUV if and when you need it, rather than searching for a sports car that can be modified into any type of vehicle you might need in the future. Computers just seem to me to be commodities - buy what you need/want now, then toss it and replace it when necessary. I'm not keeping this thing forever.

In your example there are pretty obvious physical reason why you cannot easily "upgrade" your 2-seat car and need to replace the whole thing.

In this case there are no real physical reasons why some components in the device cannot be upgraded except for premeditate decisions by the manufacturer which impede this kind of modularity.

Sure like with anything in life you can "deal with it" by just accepting it by what it is. This doesn't mean you at the same time should be happy and quiet about the situation.
 
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Why does Apple go so far out of it's way to gimp their devices? What is the reason for deliberately making storage upgrades not possible eventhough they've put in the slots?

What kind of a**hole at Apple gave that the greenlight?
IMHO Timmy probably approved it.
 
Serious question: how many of them were operating on used equipment to begin with?

Apple doesn't make money when someone buys a five year old Mac to limp along for a few years, but that group is often angry that Apple (or any company!) doesn't cater to them.
Apple does make money when someone buy certain old Macs. That’s what the certified refurbished section of the Apple Store is for.
 
Are people afraid that if Macs were a bit more serviceable even for basic maintenance tasks like cleaning the fan and heatsink, all end users would be forced to do their own repairs? Is Apple afraid that their technicians would be out of work because they currently bring in a lot of money for cleaning out dust?
 
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Most of the audio engineers I know don't replace their equipment until they absolutely have to, and they do upgrade them before they are likely to buy replacements. That's mainly because the majority of audio engineering work is no longer done in major studios, and instead is done in smaller 1-4 person operations where they are very cost conscious.
Also, in many cases, software costs significantly more than the hardware upon which it is installed, and the software license is tied to a single specific machine.
 
I thought everyone only uses computers in a sterile clean room while wearing a bunny suit. Or perhaps that's what Jony Ive personally does, so everyone else must also.
Maybe Apple needs to hire more cats as beta-testers.
 


iFixit today disassembled Apple's new M1 Max Mac Studio, giving us a first glimpse at the components inside the machine. This is not iFixit's traditional, more detailed teardown, which has not yet been published, but it does provide a few interesting details about the Mac Studio.


"If Apple squeezed a Mac Pro into a Mac mini, you'd get something that looks a lot like the new [Mac Studio]," iFixit said, describing the internals of the machine.

An earlier teardown found that the Mac Studio's SSD is not soldered and can be removed, which iFixit confirmed, but it's still not clear if upgrades are possible. iFixit found a spare slot on the logic board and attempted to put the SSD from a second Mac Studio into the empty slot, but couldn't get it working. Swapping drives of the same capacity between machines did, however, work.Unlike storage, RAM is built-in, which means memory upgrades to the Mac Studio won't be possible after purchase.

The M1 Max Mac Studio features a massive heatsink with a dual-fan assembly, and the fans are "so much more massive than other Mac fans," according to iFixit. The site also said the heatsink "positively dwarfs the M1" with more than six times the weight.

The internals of the Mac Studio are complicated with brackets, connectors, and torx screws, which impacts repairability and user accessibility. iFixit praised the modular ports and the heat management system, but wasn't pleased with the buried fans, potentially non-upgradeable storage, and baked-in RAM. The Mac Studio earned an iFixit repairability score of 6 out of 10. It's a "worthy successor to the Mac mini, but isn't quite ready for the pros," said the site.

iFixit also took a quick look inside the Studio Display, and it turns out the internals look a whole lot like an iMac. The webcam in the Studio Display is similar to the camera in the iPhone 11, but iFixit didn't have much more to say about the Studio Display at this time as a more in-depth teardown is coming in the near future.

Article Link: iFixit Tears Down Mac Studio and Studio Display
iFixit Teardowns have be come a Laughable Joke. There are no more steps, No more Chip Identification, no more Close up images. Its looks nowadays just like a rushed Article with nothing of interest written in it.
 
So the Studio Display might have a secret feature. It is basically an iPhone 11 with 64GB with a big ass display.
no its not. Even though it uses the Same SoC the Firmware is definitely not the Same as the Typical iOS. Even if the Build number is the Same doesn't mean its a full featured iOS. that just wouldn't make sense and also iOS it self doesn't have the Capability to be used as a Display
 
M1 chips have never been upgradable, and people buy into them knowing that this is the price for the superior performance they receive as a result of its integrated design.

Till now, I still fail to see what all the uproar is about. It’s more like a “Okay, duly noted” and I feel it’s going to have absolutely zero impact on one’s purchasing decision.
As someone who, over the past 30 years, has purchased half my Macs second hand, having the ability to upgrade the RAM and HDD are essential.

Frankly, I suspect if Apple continue with their notably higher prices, and combine that with an inability to upgrade after purchase - they are going to shoot themselves in the foot.

The long life of their products helps to ensure a strong second hand market, and as such people who do buy new can sell their old Mac to help finance an upgrade. But, if these machines lifespan is reduced by the lack of upgradability - resale falls, and eagerness to buy new may lag.
 
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I wonder why no other display manufacturer makes computer monitors in aluminium enclosures.
because they wana save money on casing etc. apple really don't care that much about production cost since they let the customer pay for it. and Apple is a Premium Brand so they do it because they Value Design Aesthetics and Functionality
 
You don't have to guess. They already did it on all MBP models pre-2012. And for SSDs on all MBP models pre-2016. It's a deliberate choice not to, based on pure greed so that they can ream users with the insane RAM/SSD Apple Tax. I suspect we are going to see both plug-in RAM and SSDs on the upcoming Mac Pro M1 Extreme, otherwise the comparisons to the Intel Mac Pro with up to 1.5TB RAM will be rather embarrassing.
unfortunately its not as simple as u think. The Ram in M1 Chips is not a normal type of ram u find in Laptops and Desktops in the Windows world. They are Ram which needs to be as close to the SoC as possible. (The same on Smartphone SoCs u find the Ram always directly stacked on to of the CPU) if you would do it with normal ram over a so Dim u would loose a huge chunk of performance since induces huge latency for the SoC to communicate to the Ram.
Ram Tech is simply not enough advanced to perform the same like SoC Ram
Please do some research into Computer & CPU Engineering before making assumptions about that a company makes things out of pure greed
 
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As someone who, over the past 30 years, has purchased half my Macs second hand, having the ability to upgrade the RAM and HDD are essential.

Frankly, I suspect if Apple continue with their notably higher prices, and combine that with an inability to upgrade after purchase - they are going to shoot themselves in the foot.

The long life of their products helps to ensure a strong second hand market, and as such people who do buy new can sell their old Mac to help finance an upgrade. But, if these machines lifespan is reduced by the lack of upgradability - resale falls, and eagerness to buy new may lag.
I agree with that, but apart from storage, upgrading other components looks just of the question for technical design reasons. We can only hope that due to the new system design, these new Mac computers have adequate performance for longer than in the past, levelling out the need for upgrades.
 
As someone who, over the past 30 years, has purchased half my Macs second hand, having the ability to upgrade the RAM and HDD are essential.

Essential? How?

Frankly, I suspect if Apple continue with their notably higher prices, and combine that with an inability to upgrade after purchase - they are going to shoot themselves in the foot.

This prediction would’ve been reasonable a decade ago, but… we’re well into this territory now.

In actuality, this matters to a very small group of people, and the Mac is doing better than ever.
 
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