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iFixit Tears Down New Retina iMac, Internal Layout Largely the Same as Prior Generation
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Well, you do notice the lighting in the shot.
They have very carefully adjusted the lighting on the photo to put the body of the iMac into as much shadow as they dare, highlighting the edge, without making it so dark they can be accused of hiding it.
I don't blame them, they are making the most of their products, and using every means to show them off in the best manner.
Just we should be aware that IS what they are doing.
So basically is non user serviceable..
And I would imagine Apple would say... Oh but it's so thin... Isn't that what's more important in your desktop?
And I would imagine Apple would say... Oh but it's so thin... Isn't that what's more important in your desktop?
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Cancelled my order
Brought an ipad air instead
I normally always get apple products on release day. However, have been burnt a few times: ipad 3, rMBP gen 1.
Thing that made me re-asses the situation.
-Uncertainty re the GPU - maybe following an anand review; + 2-3(months) use by others' on the forum may prove me wrong here
-lack TB3, i know this has ver really work usage, but i do not intend to update my mac for 3-4 yrs.
-haswell CPU - i think i will weight it out until skylake (PCI-e3)
-possibly an updated hdmi 2 port and target display mode again.
After the ipad 3 and rmbp (G1) i felt apple had designed absolutely stunning products, really pushed the boundary out, at the cost of functionality and performance (IMHO) - at almost £3k for the fully maxxed model, i will wait until 2nd gen.
Brought an ipad air instead
I normally always get apple products on release day. However, have been burnt a few times: ipad 3, rMBP gen 1.
Thing that made me re-asses the situation.
-Uncertainty re the GPU - maybe following an anand review; + 2-3(months) use by others' on the forum may prove me wrong here
-lack TB3, i know this has ver really work usage, but i do not intend to update my mac for 3-4 yrs.
-haswell CPU - i think i will weight it out until skylake (PCI-e3)
-possibly an updated hdmi 2 port and target display mode again.
After the ipad 3 and rmbp (G1) i felt apple had designed absolutely stunning products, really pushed the boundary out, at the cost of functionality and performance (IMHO) - at almost £3k for the fully maxxed model, i will wait until 2nd gen.
Could some one tell me if this new screens will not have the gray screen smudge issue that past imacs have.
For people that don't know about this, the issue with grey screen smudges is that they appear on the screen after some month of using your imac.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2300580?start=60&tstart=0
For people that don't know about this, the issue with grey screen smudges is that they appear on the screen after some month of using your imac.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2300580?start=60&tstart=0
Not really surprising, as the internal specs of the 5K iMac are not different from the previous model, aside from the graphics. Why do you guys think Apple decided to go with Redeon instead of Nvidia GTX this time around? Isn't Nvidia a higher-performing graphics card?
I just noticed that in one of iFixit's pictures, the iMac says it's assembled in the USA.
Interesting they didn't make a point of that on Thursday.
Interesting they didn't make a point of that on Thursday.
I think this violates one or two of Dieter Rams' design principles.
Good design makes a product useful. It'd be more useful to have a detachable screen.
Good design is environmentally-friendly. It'd be better to have the computing components in the base for easier upgrading of the much more rapidly depreciating parts. Running this components away from the screen should increase its lifespan too.
Apple are interested in higher profits (making disposable commodities) over good design - last time I ranted about that, it was directed towards Microsoft.
Good design makes a product useful. It'd be more useful to have a detachable screen.
Good design is environmentally-friendly. It'd be better to have the computing components in the base for easier upgrading of the much more rapidly depreciating parts. Running this components away from the screen should increase its lifespan too.
Apple are interested in higher profits (making disposable commodities) over good design - last time I ranted about that, it was directed towards Microsoft.
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Well, it's been a long time since you could "repair" a computer with a soldering iron. Last time I went near a Mac with an iron was when I overclocked my Power Mac G4 400 MHz "Sawtooth". What most people mean by "repair" is to replace janky graphics cards, hosed logic boards, or bad hard drives.
The problem with this anorexic iMac is that the user cannot access the computer he owns without a fair amount of risk and investment in tools. Swapping in a larger HDD or SSD shouldn't take an entire weekend and void the warranty.
Don't even get me started on the "just enough" cooling used in iMacs - the design is too clever by half. The thinness even compromises usability; inserting an SD card or plugging in a flash drive requires a standing reach-around! I find it bizzare that anyone could consider this good industrial design. The changes needed to fix the iMac design don't have to ruin it's looks - a few ports on the edge, a thicker back with more robust cooling, and an access panel for not only the RAM but the SSD/HDD as well.
AMD and NVIDIA are fairly neck and neck when it comes to GPU performance. AMD tends to be less expensive than their NVIDIA counterparts, which is probably why Apple is choosing them ... but AMD GPUs are just as good as NVIDIA GPUs most of the time. The driver support from both companies, however, seems to be fairly lacking when it comes to Macs. On Windows they are always updating their drivers frantically, with updates saying things like "50% performance boost in BioShock." I only wish they were as adamant about their Mac drivers as they are Windows. AMD is definitely getting more popular ... especially since they're making all the graphic units for Xbox One and PlayStation 4.
I keep going back and forth between them with my home desktop builds and I honestly can't say there's much difference. The only difference you'll see is when a certain game is optimized for a certain GPU brand ... but if your GPU is powerful enough ... it's irrelevant.
I have the first gen rMBP, and I bought it when it was released. As soon as I realized the image retention, went to the Apple store, and they replaced the display in under 2 hours. It's been 2 years since, and no problem.
Point is: if there is a problem with the new iMac, I am sure Apple will be able to fix it. (And you should have replaced your display too instead of complaining about it)
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You still can do that....with build your own pc. There are Mac and pc with different approaches. You can choose one that fit you.
Many articles refer to repairability, and, I guess, ifixit gives products that it reviews a repairability score. I found a list for cell phones, but, not for laptops or desktops. Does such a list exist?
How did they fit all this stuff in 5mm-thick iMac?
5mm at the edge. The plot (and the computer) gets thicker...
wow... only one day... Nice work iFixIt
5 out of 10 seems about right... How can Apple push that score down ?? They could if they wanted to solder a few more things.
I'm surprised they are still user replaceable on just a thin design. Apple must be going soft. i wonder why they skimped on SK Hynix ? only 256MB ? Maybe this is all that was needed ??
It looks like packing a ultra thin suit case, where the pockets are behind.
5 out of 10 seems about right... How can Apple push that score down ?? They could if they wanted to solder a few more things.
I'm surprised they are still user replaceable on just a thin design. Apple must be going soft. i wonder why they skimped on SK Hynix ? only 256MB ? Maybe this is all that was needed ??
It looks like packing a ultra thin suit case, where the pockets are behind.
Probably a typo.
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it's the same thing only different.
Different display, Thunderbolt 2 instead of TB 1, different CPU, GPU. Yeah, it's the same thing all right.
If it is, its a global-typo.... pretty much every review on Google search just proclaims on iFixit and has the same typo.
Oh no, LG displays again. Prepare for the onslaught of uneven yellowing and image persistence issues!
I can not believe that people are still repeating this. Most of Apple products are made with LG screens. In fact LG is the biggest screen manufacturer in the world which means that most of the screens that you use around you, even if they are not labeled LG, are made by LG. That was a bad patch and it was replaced and then no reported issues after that.
On another note it is interesting how you do not see any SAMSUNG parts any more. Not the screen, SSDs, not even the memory modules. This Mac has zero SAMSUNG parts in it which is a trend that APPLE is doing purposely to not feed their rouge completion.
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They do it in Australia where they are technically 1 day ahead of us.
Seriously come on iFixit
iFixit has spoiled us. If there isn't a teardown within 24 hours of unveiling, they are slacking off!
I don't care you can't repair the iMac at home, and really not fussed about the RAM (still good you can do that) but in the end most users wouldn't even attempt to open their computer. That said there is something wrong when you can now more easily replace the HDD in a MBP than you can in an iMac.
Maybe it's like the TARDIS and it's bigger on the inside
Maybe it's like the TARDIS and it's bigger on the inside
You make t sound Apple has never used Samsung part in other products too.
And that's not true.
You say most.... I would say that would include phones, which the screens are not LG at all.
The hardware in the iMac is hugely superior to any Mac Mini that you can buy, so I'd say you are making inflamatory remarks just to wind people up.
And once Dell gets going, you can buy that monitor without a computer, for exactly the same price as the iMac.