Those new models are getting and better. Function over design, return of ports, touchbar removed, more sturdy components (like the display cable), better thermals, webcam and speakers, while repability improved from 1/10 to 4/10, at least. Next to Promotion and MiniLED for all configurations. Pretty much everything we had hoped for. Noice.
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iFixit's Full 16-Inch MacBook Pro Video Teardown Highlights Internal Design Changes
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... because it has a 4/10 score!
On the various MBPs we have I have cleaned the fans, replaced screens, replaced trackpads, and replaced fans so these are the kinds of repairs I expect to have to do on these after five or six years. My personal 2014 MBP could stand to have the keyboard replaced if for no other reason that left left-shift key is thinks it is permanently depressed so I had to deactivate it, but that’s more invasive than I have the energy for right now.
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I'm coming from a MacBook Air M1 and I noticed that my new 16-inch sounds more 'hollow' when I'm typing on it.
It's also the area around the touchpad that sounds if there is a lot of air underneith when you tick on it with your finger.
I'm I the only one, or is it perhaps the 16-inch and is the 14-inch more compact inside?
It's also the area around the touchpad that sounds if there is a lot of air underneith when you tick on it with your finger.
I'm I the only one, or is it perhaps the 16-inch and is the 14-inch more compact inside?
I spy with my little eye empty solder pads for NAND flash chips.
So it appears the 512GB version, not surprisingly, only uses 4 out of the 8 channels.
This obviously limits max read and write speeds of the SSD.
So it appears the 512GB version, not surprisingly, only uses 4 out of the 8 channels.
This obviously limits max read and write speeds of the SSD.
Hop on Amazon, search pentalobe screwdriver, purchase. The options are a dime a dozen at this point since Apple has been using them so long. Heck, I'm sure you CAN buy them at the local hardware store now too.
Yes, that pentalobe score is strange. It's like they are stuck in a time warp.
But everyone should know the score means little.
Now that I think about it, I think I actually bought a pentalobe screwdriver from them
But everyone should know the score means little.
Now that I think about it, I think I actually bought a pentalobe screwdriver from them
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So... do you not think someone else might fix it for you? Do you just throw away your Macs when they stop working out of warranty? Also it should be noted that Apple itself does very little component level repair and mostly replaces modules.
An extra millimeter for a more easily replaceable battery??
No thanks.
No thanks.
iFixit are experts at repair and these issues are very real for professionals who fix these machines. They're not stuck in a time warp, it's Apple who is stuck prefering to make more money than save the environment. Even "recycled" electronics is toxic and extremely bad for our planet. Repair and reuse is the only way to go, but Apple hasn't listened to that message.Yes, that pentalobe score is strange. It's like they are stuck in a time warp.
But everyone should know the score means nothing, Not only that, it probably mean nothing to repair people
Now that I think about it, I think I actually bought a pentalobe screwdriver from them
The internal layout is symmetrical and clean. Very impressive and alot of thought given. Good job Apple!
iFixIt gotta do what iFixIt gotta do, but I’m hoping we can get over the idea that a low score is automatically some sort of indictment. Socketed chips, accessable parts, easily replaceable batteries, and swappable components come at a size and weight cost, and these are already beefy computers. I’ll bet the world’s most advanced hearing aid would have a low iFixIt score too.
Here’s the deal, though… professionals who fix these machines? They DECIDED to do it, no one’s twisting their arms. If they made a business decision to NOT be certified by Apple, that’s on them.
Recycling as much as possible from a device is better than both digging new material out of the Earth AND sending devices to the landfill. Apple CAN control how much new material they use, but they can’t control what folks who “repair” systems do with the parts they take out.
And, if someone’s already making the decision to not be held to the higher standard of being certified, they’re likely not holding themselves to the higher standard of making sure the parts they replace are responsibly recycled.
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iFixit rarely dissects the display portion of a MacBook, just the base. So no camera module reveal.
The RAM used in these systems that provide the performance and power efficiency can’t even BE slotted. Anyone using this type of memory has it soldered, there’s no option. So, yeah, they’ve been riding the bashApple gravy train for a long time and that won’t stop anytime soon. At least on their website they do have a statement indicating how important recycling is… but of COURSE it’s after the part that makes them money
If you only have 10 points to dock, then it seems there must surely be things harder to deal with than finding the right screwdriver.
I like seeing the guts of things, so I'm glad they post the tear downs, but iFixit in general has lost relevance for me. They've caved in to whims of clickbait nation.
And reliability. Very often making things easy to repair means you're more likely to need to repair them.
Based on the appearance, was hoping to see a removable keyboard for easy replacement. Seems like my hopes are dashed.
I understand why the RAM isn't removable, but the SSD *really* should be. This is a big thing for me personally and will guarantee they will never see use with many security centric organizations that insist on physically removing the storage prior to decommissioning.
No idea why they're complaining about pentalobe, nothing wrong with them and the screwdrivers are easy enough to obtain. Much prefer it to philips screws.
Certainly an improvement over the horrific 2016-2019 models, but doesn't match older units.
I understand why the RAM isn't removable, but the SSD *really* should be. This is a big thing for me personally and will guarantee they will never see use with many security centric organizations that insist on physically removing the storage prior to decommissioning.
No idea why they're complaining about pentalobe, nothing wrong with them and the screwdrivers are easy enough to obtain. Much prefer it to philips screws.
Certainly an improvement over the horrific 2016-2019 models, but doesn't match older units.
Pentalobe screws are annoying, but not the real problem. The main issue is that this MacBook, like the iPhone 13, has certain parts that can only be replaced by Apple.
For example even if you buy two identical 16” Macbooks and you try to swap the two displays, you’ll lose certain functionalities like TrueTone because the display won’t be recognised as genuine.
It’s technically possible, but the required equipment and difficulty is many orders of magnitude above, say, obtaining a pentalobe screwdriver set (which seems to be some sort of repairability baseline here).
Also, given the silicon shortage, I doubt the RAM ICs will be available in the typical Shenzhen market for a couple years. A quick check of mouser for a 128Gb LPDDR5 module with a 128bit interface shows it’s $170 (and you’d need two for 32GB), so it’d be an expensive upgrade— and it’s likely a special pin-out like on the M1, which means that off the shelf parts like that probably wouldn’t work anyway.
It takes less time to order these on Amazon than to drive to a hardware store. And they don't cost very much. These days they are hardly "harder to come by".