Theres someone whith no knowlede of macs... whatsoever. I always get the "macs are gay, there slow and crappy" Thats all i hear from most of my pc user friends.
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Ignorant Beliefs about Macs
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Tell me about it. It just ticks me off (really, my heart starts pumping a lot) when PC users put down Macs for dumb reasons. Like, "Macs can't play games". BS! Sure a PC is better at that, but a Mac CAN play games. Then theres, "Macs aren't compatable with anything"....."Macs only have a 1 button mouse" (HELLO, you get a two,three,four button mouse for a Mac, and it WILL work)...."You can't upgrade Macs; once there outdated you throw them away"....and I think I even heard...."Macs suck because they suck".......w/e 
But a lot of the critizisms about Macs are from people who have know knowledge of Macs and make ignorant statements.
But a lot of the critizisms about Macs are from people who have know knowledge of Macs and make ignorant statements.
at least you heard them trying to back it up with some excuse. i've heard a lot of "macs? Ew" and that was it. i walked away with a peter griffin dumbfounded face on me. why bother.
but yea, apple NEED to make more commercials, better commercials, longer commercials. they can make cool, informative videos for the keynote, condense it, and play them on TV for pete's sake.
but yea, apple NEED to make more commercials, better commercials, longer commercials. they can make cool, informative videos for the keynote, condense it, and play them on TV for pete's sake.
I DESPISE people that judge products that they have never used or spent time to learn about. WHO are they to judge something that they don't know? I am a hardcore PC user that decided to try out the Mac to judge it for myself without other people influencing me and I am in love with my PB. I would marry it if bigamy was legal (okay, maybe not that far).
I read three Mac books in the last two weeks and I know enough to judge Macs from here and other Mac enthusiasts sites, and I do think Macs are better at a lot of things and will be if there was more support with software and hardware.
People just fear what they don't know and they don't know Mac.
Partially, Apple is to blame with their idiotic advertisement that shows the "looks", but doesn't explain what the hell is going on!?!?!?!
Next time someone judges something they have never used, you should remind them that it is not their place to make comments about what they don't know.
I read three Mac books in the last two weeks and I know enough to judge Macs from here and other Mac enthusiasts sites, and I do think Macs are better at a lot of things and will be if there was more support with software and hardware.
People just fear what they don't know and they don't know Mac.
Partially, Apple is to blame with their idiotic advertisement that shows the "looks", but doesn't explain what the hell is going on!?!?!?!
Next time someone judges something they have never used, you should remind them that it is not their place to make comments about what they don't know.
I am so embarrassed to admit this, but here's what I used to think before I got a Mac:
"The only reason they look so good is because they perform so badly. They've got to sell their computers SOMEHOW, so they make them sexy."
"The only reason creative types like the Mac is that it looks good."
"No right click. Grrrrrr."
I know, all wrong, sorrysorrysorry! I think though, that Apple hasn't done enough of a job emphasizing their software / interface. We have all these gorgeous ads showing the computer but not showing things like Expose, etc.
"The only reason they look so good is because they perform so badly. They've got to sell their computers SOMEHOW, so they make them sexy."
"The only reason creative types like the Mac is that it looks good."
"No right click. Grrrrrr."
I know, all wrong, sorrysorrysorry! I think though, that Apple hasn't done enough of a job emphasizing their software / interface. We have all these gorgeous ads showing the computer but not showing things like Expose, etc.
jhu said:
Price? Perhaps on the desktops. Funny that when I was in the laptop market (May 03) I couldn't find anything with as good a battery or hardware quality as an iBook, particularly with XP Pro as suggested for cooperating with large networks, for anywhere near the price.
Before Working at my High School on the computer systems I knew how to work on Macs but didn't like them peticularly. It wasn't until I worked on them for a year at school, that I learned the greatest thing about Macs is how fast you can fix them when you have a problem. Since I've had my TiBook, I have had only one problem that I couldn't fix in 10 minutes.
I keep having to teach people about Macs, expecially since Centrino. Many believe that Centrino is a new Technology allowing you to wirelessly connect to a network or the internet, and that it is the only way to do it. When I inform them that the technology has been standard on Macs since 1999 the scoff and say I'm lying and walk away.
/I HATE CENTRINO
TEG
I keep having to teach people about Macs, expecially since Centrino. Many believe that Centrino is a new Technology allowing you to wirelessly connect to a network or the internet, and that it is the only way to do it. When I inform them that the technology has been standard on Macs since 1999 the scoff and say I'm lying and walk away.
/I HATE CENTRINO
TEG
When ordering our dual 2.5's...
One of our web guys said...
"2.5ghz? That's not even as fast as a typical Pentium III. And it costs how much?"
One of our web guys said...
"2.5ghz? That's not even as fast as a typical Pentium III. And it costs how much?"
edesignuk said:
That's why he's a web guy, I guess and not in I.T.
Like, I should know what a PIII is or does?!
But it's the same-old, same-old ghz myth.
people dont argue with me anymore, cause they know that i know what im talking about and they dont. even though macs being are better are opinion based, i always outweigh their opinions with mine, it's just no argument. my friend also respect my opinions cause of my job, so it's not to hard for me to inform people.
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My personal favorite is:
"Ugh, I used a Mac once in school and it was horrible!"
Of course they're referring to a machine that's 10+ years old!
I'm a switcher, but only because of OS X. Not a big fan of the previous versions of mac OS.
The other one I like is the typical "over-priced" excuse. Riiiiiight... a kick-arse ibook for $1100 bucks, retail? I don't think that's over-priced.
I have recently convinced a co-worker to switch, got her 14" ibook yesterday and absolutely loves it, and I've just convinced my sister-in-law to get a 12" ibook for school. It's going to be just wonderful when her $999 (edu price) 4.6lb ibook runs circles around her brother's brand new 30lb $2200 Sony Vaio. I so wish that man would have talked to me before buying that piece of trash laptop.
Oh, I've switched my wife too.
Changing the computer world one person at a time.
"Ugh, I used a Mac once in school and it was horrible!"
Of course they're referring to a machine that's 10+ years old!
I'm a switcher, but only because of OS X. Not a big fan of the previous versions of mac OS.
The other one I like is the typical "over-priced" excuse. Riiiiiight... a kick-arse ibook for $1100 bucks, retail? I don't think that's over-priced.
I have recently convinced a co-worker to switch, got her 14" ibook yesterday and absolutely loves it, and I've just convinced my sister-in-law to get a 12" ibook for school. It's going to be just wonderful when her $999 (edu price) 4.6lb ibook runs circles around her brother's brand new 30lb $2200 Sony Vaio. I so wish that man would have talked to me before buying that piece of trash laptop.
Oh, I've switched my wife too.
Changing the computer world one person at a time.
evilgEEk said:My personal favorite is:
"Ugh, I used a Mac once in school and it was horrible!"
Of course they're referring to a machine that's 10+ years old!
I'm a switcher, but only because of OS X. Not a big fan of the previous versions of mac OS.
The other one I like is the typical "over-priced" excuse. Riiiiiight... a kick-arse ibook for $1100 bucks, retail? I don't think that's over-priced.
I have recently convinced a co-worker to switch, got her 14" ibook yesterday and absolutely loves it, and I've just convinced my sister-in-law to get a 12" ibook for school. It's going to be just wonderful when her $999 (edu price) 4.6lb ibook runs circles around her brother's brand new 30lb $2200 Sony Vaio. I so wish that man would have talked to me before buying that piece of trash laptop.
Oh, I've switched my wife too.
Changing the computer world one person at a time.
you switched your wife? how were you able to switch wives?
personally, my computing needs are modest, so i couldn't justify a $1100 ibook. if i were to get a laptop, it'd probably be one of those $600 laptops that you see everyone once in a while. however, i can't even justify spending that right now either.
dude you dont get it do you, a $600 laptop will be a cellery cpu 1hour battery monster that will choke on it's 128MB of shared memory, you get what you pay for, for a laptop that will last you 5 years or so (yes 5 years) before it cant run the latest os you can get a 12" powerbook or for 3-4 years of solid mac use you can get an ibook. it's about cost effectiveness and buying a mac will last the longest, a $600 pc laptop will last a year before you get sick of it and cant live with it while you are useing xp sp3 sprawled with spyware.
I was surprised the other day when I brought some files to work on my Apple burned DVD (with the logo on it). Since our desktops only had CD drives I had to get the tech support ppl to load it on the network. As soon as they saw the Apple logo it was "is this compatible?" - "Apple sucks" etc.
And these are supposedly professionals. I'm sure the Apple server admin tools would make their lives so much easier. And the Xserve pricing is also very competitive I believe.
And these are supposedly professionals. I'm sure the Apple server admin tools would make their lives so much easier. And the Xserve pricing is also very competitive I believe.
only complaint i really hear about macs is they dont have many games. Which is true.
I have also heard the common things such as they are too expensive...usually that comes from my peers who wear 400 dollar shoes and live in a trailor park though. Usually after people like that say they are too expensive i will be a smart @$$ about it.
I actually (in real life, chat rooms is another story) rarely hear macs are slow, even from my x86 freak friends. One of them said macs were slow and crap until he got on one of my friends 1.33 ghz 15" powerbook...he shut up after that
I have also heard the common things such as they are too expensive...usually that comes from my peers who wear 400 dollar shoes and live in a trailor park though. Usually after people like that say they are too expensive i will be a smart @$$ about it.
I actually (in real life, chat rooms is another story) rarely hear macs are slow, even from my x86 freak friends. One of them said macs were slow and crap until he got on one of my friends 1.33 ghz 15" powerbook...he shut up after that
Chappers said:
Yeah, or "Why would you get a Mac unless your just going to use it for video editing?"
I've got a friend who goes "eww" every time I mention my Macs and constantly berates them, despite the fact that she *constantly* has problems with her HP, all Windows related. There's just no convincing some people.
Hector said:
dude, you didn't read my comment carefully, did you? you don't know what my preferences are, so i'll tell you: price. i can't justify a $1100 laptop when i can get a $600 laptop that's fully functional by my standards and will last longer than you think. besides, i already said that i can't even justify $600 for a laptop. and who said i'd be using windows?
jhu said:
But how many $600 laptops do you have to buy over the lifetime of a single $1100 iBook?
I previously have bought 2 low cost (at that time low cost was defined as CDN$1100 you couldn't get a laptop cheaper) intel based notebooks. One Compaq and one Gateway.
Both of them had non-functional parts within a year. In the case of the Compaq it was the CD-Rom (common failure mode, too, I hear) which pretty much made the system useless. I take care of my systems, but they are notebooks so of course they will be carried around and knocked a bit.
[Back on topic]
I've heard all of these:
(from a fellow computer professional) "How can you live without Microsoft products? I need to have Word available"
"I can't send you an email, because I'm on a PC, you're a Mac. You won't be able to read it".
Lately though, I've been hearing a lot of this:
Can you burn this to a CD for me? My windows system doesn't like to do it.
Can you rip this music for me? I can't seem to get it to work.
Can you edit this picture/movie for me? I just can't find a way to do it.
My powerbook is making a lot of people around me who were windows only seriously rethink their next purchase. Anytime somebody asks me a question or makes an ignorant comment (honest ignorance, not bigoted) I make sure we sit down and I take them on a tour.
At Ease
A lot of people that I have talked to about macs have said they sucked because it really wasn't an operating system. When they were describing it to me, I knew what they were talking about, At Ease. At Ease was an application that prevented you from accessing the finder, and the only thing it allowed you to do was to click an application from a panel. It was mainly used in education about 10 years ago.
After showing them Mac OS X they were stunned, and believed it was as good or even better than WinXP.
A lot of people that I have talked to about macs have said they sucked because it really wasn't an operating system. When they were describing it to me, I knew what they were talking about, At Ease. At Ease was an application that prevented you from accessing the finder, and the only thing it allowed you to do was to click an application from a panel. It was mainly used in education about 10 years ago.
After showing them Mac OS X they were stunned, and believed it was as good or even better than WinXP.
MattG said:
Ha! I love that, I absolutely love it when Windows people ask me to download the latest patch for them because Windows won't see their modem or whatever. When that worm hit last year, that restarted PC's after a few minutes I was inundated with people asking me to download the fix for them, because everytime they tried it wouldn't complete before it restarted.
bosskxx1 said:
Ahh, memories. I remember trying to sort out printing within At Ease. After running into a few brick walls, I disabled it completely.
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