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Why is MR so against openly talking about moderating? instead they continue to push for using the contact form i.e. pushing it "underground."

It's not underground; the rules we moderate by are clearly stated. We don't discuss specific moderation in public threads because we choose to keep such discussions private, between the user involved and us.

I can give you an example of why. Moderation isn't just done on the basis of the rules, but also in light of the user's moderation history. Users are often surprised when we send them a summary of their moderation history in conjunction with a discussion of moderation done to their accounts. They've forgotten how many times they broke rules, and when they see how the moderation was escalated gradually and often very patiently over time, they often see things in a different light. Any discussion of specific moderation necessitates our bringing that information in, and this can be very uncomfortable and embarrassing for the user involved.

Since the only goal of moderation is to keep things running smoothly, we see no reason to embarrass users. Anyone can make a mistake, forget a rule, or lose their cool in a heated discussion. That's why we start out very easy, with reminders that are only heads-up messages, not punishment. We're happy when we don't need to moderate, because that means things are running smoothly.

General discussions of moderation, like the one here, are just fine in Site and Forum Feedback, just as are general questions or complaints or suggestions about the rules.

Hey, I am well aware that we are just guests here and we are free to go elsewhere BUT I continue to be ticked when the "moderators" are the bigger abusers of the forum rules than the guests.

There are administrators who oversee moderation, this section where users can ask or complain about the rules, the contact form, and reviews that we always do when asked (and we do reverse moderation when we see we've made a mistake). Moderation is transparent; all moderators and administrators see all moderation done, and who did it. We have very good documentation. When you look at all of that, and see how hard we've worked to ensure a fair and transparent system, it's pretty hard to agree with you that moderators (whom you insist on putting in quotation marks, as if they're not really moderators) are "the bigger abusers of the forum rules". It shows a lack of respect for the volunteers who help keep the site you use running, and it's simply not true.
 
Not according to the XenForo release notes.


ErikGrim was suggesting that the limit was coming from an add-on, not saying that you should install one.

--Eric
Thanks. Seems that was added to XenoForo proper in 1.5.0.

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Could you please let us know what time you browse the forums?

The reason I ask is there are times the forum runs a little slow and I can see the issue now.

Personally I think the ignore function should be taken away.
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Another spot filled.
 
Didn't even know there was an ignore feature. I just don't participate or read material that I don't want to.

If I find a subject annoying, I just stay out of it. There isn't a requirement to express every opinion you have, or participate in threads that have gone crazy.

Seems to work fine.
 
It's "moderation" like this that backs my premise of reacting to a report button and not looking around

Yesterday an iPhone Photography thread was started and after 9 posts got pushed off iPhone topics to Picture Gallery

YET

The thread iPhone 7+ Photography has been a going concern since mid-September with 1865 comments and remains on the iPhone topics.

The threads are identical YET treated differently - the "moderator" pushed one almost immediately BUT never saw the other even though it's been around for what, 8 weeks?
 
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I think we can all agree that this is way too low. Please remove limit so these forums can be tolerable again.
Are you really ignoring 1000 people?
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Oh you get out of here with your logic. This thread is so people can make condescending and judgmental little remarks about OP's technical question regarding how the forum works. :D
I would suggest that the OP simply update his ignore list. I'm sure many people on his ignore list have been banned or just left years ago. Update the list so you have more room to ignore those you don't agree with.
 
Are you really ignoring 1000 people?

I'm ignoring millions on this planet. It's easy... if I don't pay attention, then they can't bother me.

Never even thought of an ignore button. Imagine if we had that in real life. Hey, my ex is bothering me. I'll press this button. Hey, cool, my ex and everyone that knows my ex, just totally vanished. Could you imagine how empty the courts would be???
 
I'm ignoring millions on this planet. It's easy... if I don't pay attention, then they can't bother me.

Never even thought of an ignore button. Imagine if we had that in real life. Hey, my ex is bothering me. I'll press this button. Hey, cool, my ex and everyone that knows my ex, just totally vanished. Could you imagine how empty the courts would be???
My house in the white mountains of New Hampshire is my ignore button. No cell service, no phone, no posted address on the street, I ignore everybody up there.
 
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My house in the white mountains of New Hampshire is my ignore button. No cell service, no phone, no posted address on the street, I ignore everybody up there.

There you go. That's the way. I remember the days when we left home for a bit, and nobody could reach us until we got back home. Very liberating compared to today's world with cell phones and everyone "needing" an immediate response.
 
There you go. That's the way. I remember the days when we left home for a bit, and nobody could reach us until we got back home. Very liberating compared to today's world with cell phones and everyone "needing" an immediate response.
I have to drive about 20 minutes into town to get a signal. I'll do it just to check email every other day or so.
 
That would be so nice. It sounds like you got things set up pretty good.
I bought the house as a foreclosure. It was a wreck. It's been about 7 years now and it's basically all set. As soon as I sell these other houses I'm going to retire. I have a house in Portsmouth NH, Norwich CT, and Lisbon CT. If I'm an sell these three houses I can easily move up there and get a low paying job somewhere and be just fine. I'm 37 now and want to retire by 40.
 
I bought the house as a foreclosure. It was a wreck. It's been about 7 years now and it's basically all set. As soon as I sell these other houses I'm going to retire. I have a house in Portsmouth NH, Norwich CT, and Lisbon CT. If I'm an sell these three houses I can easily move up there and get a low paying job somewhere and be just fine. I'm 37 now and want to retire by 40.

Sounds like a great plan. Wish I was set up that good. I was all set to retire at 19. I had the money to buy the land and cabin kit and pay in cash. Was going to live off the land like I was raised.

Then I made my fatal mistake... I met a girl. It was all downhill after that. Now I'm much older, broke, single again, and nothing to show for all my years of hard work (except the pleasure of sending her a check every month. Lol).
 
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What is your criteria to ignore someone? I assume it has something to do with something they said to you? Personal attacks? Rude comments? Ignorance, grammar? Who knows.

After a 1000 people what is the common denominator here?

Maybe you should look within?
 
Moderation is transparent; all moderators and administrators see all moderation done, and who did it.


REALLY ... maybe in background because that same "moderation" seems nowhere to one found in the foreground. I cited a clear example of "moderation" in post #55 and haven't heard from you. I also pointed out two commenting people who have run amok on this forum without being reined in ... and the "moderators" are nowhere to be found.

Maybe you could explain all of that out in the open, transparently, so the rest of could understand.
 
REALLY ... maybe in background because that same "moderation" seems nowhere to one found in the foreground. I cited a clear example of "moderation" in post #55 and haven't heard from you. I also pointed out two commenting people who have run amok on this forum without being reined in ... and the "moderators" are nowhere to be found.

Maybe you could explain all of that out in the open, transparently, so the rest of could understand.

As I've already explained, the first step is to contact us to ask why a post you reported hasn't been moderated. Part of what we do then is a review. If we still think there was no violation, we'll let you know exactly why if you ask. But if you haven't reported the problem you're using as an example of bad moderation, then that's where you need to start.

If you simply mention a problem in a post here, then you've chosen to ignore the system that's in place. There is so much work for the moderators - work you don't see - that there's just no way they can deal with things efficiently outside of the system.

If you have questions about the rules in general - for instance, you'd like us to consider changing or adding a rule, you want us to consider changing a moderation policy, or you feel something in the Moderation FAQ needs to be discussed, then by all means start a discussion about it here - in a separate thread.

Look, if you don't believe me, that's fine. But I'm telling you the truth about how things here are run, so if you're still not satisfied then I'd think hard about whether or not MacRumors is the best fit for you (and no, I'm not asking you to leave - we take the time to explain because we want as many users as possible to be as satisfied as possible). We're not the only tech forum and forum rules and moderation vary from site to site. Nothing is perfect for everyone - we get that. We're not afraid to challenge each other when we discuss, and I personally think we've got a pretty solid system for user feedback. We always strive to discuss with open minds. You won't always agree with our rules or with how we moderate; that's why we require that all users agree to read and accept the rules when they register, and why we have this section and the contact form so users can discuss with us.
 
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What is your criteria to ignore someone? I assume it has something to do with something they said to you? Personal attacks? Rude comments? Ignorance, grammar? Who knows.

After a 1000 people what is the common denominator here?

Maybe you should look within?

1000 people isn't even 1% of the accounts on MR. Ignoring even 1% of people doesn't mean anything about the person.
 
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A number of posts were removed because they had derailed the thread. While the administrators and moderators try to explain and help out, those posts were derailing the original topic.

As a reminder, we do not permit public discussion of moderation, if anyone wants to ask a question about the rules, or how moderation works, asking in the feed back forum, is fine, but when it crosses the line to a specific action, then that does break our rules.
 
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