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Does it matter why he's blocking people or that he is? It is a feature of the website and he's asking to get it changed. If you're against people using that feature, petition for it to be removed.

Actually, nobody is querying that he blocks people, or why he blocks people. That is not what under discussion.

Rather, I think some of the posters who have responded are astounded that - having already blocked a thousand people - he may wish to block still more.

In fact, the block, or ignore, feature is useful, - indeed, at times, it is invaluable, - such as when someone is breathtakingly offensive, or disrespectful of boundaries - or harassing you - but it is one that most people tend to use fairly sparingly.

I block people, - but blocking someone is usually - or, I had assumed it to be - a sort of nuclear response in online communication. As such, it is not something I use often, or even regularly, Just as needed.


To be specific, “I think we can all agree that this is way too low.”, we, (most that have commented here so far), obviously don’t.

Agreed.

Most here so far don't use it and seem content to snipe about anyone who would dare do so.

They are not sniping. They are astounded that someone would think that more than a thousand people need to be blocked on this site.
 
It would be handy if accounts that were permanently banned were automatically removed from ignore lists.

I have a couple of dozen users on ignore and a handful of them are currently showing as "suspended". Now, according to a trick I just learned in another thread, it seems most of those accounts are actually banned. So why not just get rid of them? That would free up some slots, yes?

I'm fine with ignoring some accounts btw. A tiny minority seem intent on disrupting civil conversation here and are impressively skilled at bending the rules without actually breaking them. Sending them to Coventry is appropriate. And it saves time.
 
It would be handy if accounts that were permanently banned were automatically removed from ignore lists.

I have a couple of dozen users on ignore and a handful of them are currently showing as "suspended". Now, according to a trick I just learned in another thread, it seems most of those accounts are actually banned. So why not just get rid of them? That would free up some slots, yes?

I'm fine with ignoring some accounts btw. A tiny minority seem intent on disrupting civil conversation here and are impressively skilled at bending the rules without actually breaking them. Sending them to Coventry is appropriate. And it saves time.
If that were their raison d’etre, they’d just sign up again with a new throwaway email address.
 
No, I beg to differ; excluding people takes energy, means making a choice, it takes up mental bandwidth, actually, it takes extraordinary mental energy.
Actually it frees up mental energy. By excluding the vast masses of negative energy that's been permeating the forums for the last year it frees up time and energy for the useful posts. The less time I need to spend reading and wading through junk, the more mental energy I have. Quite the opposite of your thinking.
 
Actually it frees up mental energy. By excluding the vast masses of negative energy that's been permeating the forums for the last year it frees up time and energy for the useful posts. The less time I need to spend reading and wading through junk, the more mental energy I have. Quite the opposite of your thinking.

Fascinating post - and perspective - and I mean that most sincerely.

While matters political do indeed take up a lot of my life (as a student, teacher, and later public servant and political analyst), - and the insanely horrible tone of the recent campaign has been a depressing and quite lamentable feature of the whole thing - I find that I don't get quite as outraged as I used to - or possibly should - by the disgusting tone (and content) of some posts here.

Over the past two decades, I have worked in a number of war zones, - indeed, I have worked in what are considered to be some of the most challenging political environments on the planet.

Perhaps it is to do with age - middle-aged me is both less tolerant and more tolerant than I was when I was an undergrad in my late teens and early twenties - or, maybe, it could be put down to having acquired an altered perspective, - for, having met genuinely brave, extraordinary, generous, resilient, incredible people in the course of my work, my idea of what matters has undergone some modification in recent decades.

Or, perhaps, most importantly, there are people who post here, who are so underwhelming, so puerile, so full of bathetic bile, that even blocking them is a waste of energy and accords them and their singularly uninformed world view too much importance and significance.

But, as you say, it is a different way of looking at the world.
 
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Actually it frees up mental energy. By excluding the vast masses of negative energy that's been permeating the forums for the last year it frees up time and energy for the useful posts. The less time I need to spend reading and wading through junk, the more mental energy I have. Quite the opposite of your thinking.
Someone may have a highly critical opinion on one product, then go into a discussion thread related to another and provide positive and useful posts. This is one of the reasons I don't use the ignore feature, there's always a possibility you're missing out on a useful or important part of the conversation just because that person happens to be on your ignore list from something negative they've said in the past.
 
Someone may have a highly critical opinion on one product, then go into a discussion thread related to another and provide positive and useful posts. This is one of the reasons I don't use the ignore feature, there's always a possibility you're missing out on a useful or important part of the conversation just because that person happens to be on your ignore list from something negative they've said in the past.
You'd be surprised at how little this happens.
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Or, perhaps, most importantly, there are people who post here, who are so underwhelming, so puerile, so full of bathetic bile. that even blocking them is a waste of energy and accords them and their singularly uninformed world view too much importance and significance.
I'd totally be on board with that if it notified them in any way that they were blocked, rather than as it appears that I am simply ignoring them.

But yes, I like to tune out the noise. My time is valuable so I'd like to weed out the irrelevant, the negative and the trolls so I can quicker get to what's relevant and useful
 
Wow! There is an ignore button? Where?
A couple of options -- I tapped on your user name to the left of your post box, choose "Ignore" :
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In any thread, tap or click on your own name, choose "People You Ignore" from the second column :
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Will bring you to a page where you can scroll to the bottom of the page and enter a name :
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I must admit I ignore people without using the actual ignore function. It's much more satisfying to see somebody you don't like quote you and then not get a response that they crave. I've ignored one particular user since Jan '15 after they had a spat with me via PM. After a couple of exchanges they said they would 'not like any further PM's. I cut it dead and then 3 days later I got a polite message from the mods telling me not to contact them again as they'd reported me for harassment! Talk about abusing the report function!

To this day I have not interacted with them despite very regularly being quoted and challenged. Ultimately I've won by not giving them the satisfaction. ;)
 
Talk about abusing the report function!


That is an all-too-often occurrence on the MR forum --- and from my perch and contrary to what they say, the "moderators" don't give much thought or context to the report and BAM, you're gone, and the person who abused the report function goes on to live another day.
 
That is an all-too-often occurrence on the MR forum --- and from my perch and contrary to what they say, the "moderators" don't give much thought or context to the report and BAM, you're gone, and the person who abused the report function goes on to live another day.

I'll repeat the answer I gave you when you made a similar statement in another thread: The fact that a post report exists does not mean that a post will be removed or edited. The "moderators" do indeed give a great deal of thought and often discussion to post reports before deciding whether or not action needs to be taken.

In addition, moderator actions are transparent to all other moderators and to the administrators, who oversee moderation. All moderation is thoroughly documented. It would be a lot easier to be a moderator and take a lot less time if all they needed to do was delete all reported posts!

Users shouldn't worry about abusing the report function. We never mind taking a look, and in rare instances where a user seems to regularly report posts that don't break rules, we reach out to explain the rule involved. That's to both our benefits.
 
Huh. I could have sworn that was due to this addon? https://xenforo.com/community/resources/user-ignore-limit.4382/
But why install an add-on for what is clearly an exception? I suspect you're the only the one who has bumped up against this issue.

If xenforo is anything like the enterprise applications I support, the more you modify, add on or change, the harder it becomes to update or upgrade and the more involved testing becomes. For my organization there needs to be a clear cut and beneficial result for the change and it seems your case is so unique, I'm not sure its worth adding on one more change - just my $.02
 
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Does it matter why he's blocking people or that he is? It is a feature of the website and he's asking to get it changed. If you're against people using that feature, petition for it to be removed.

The 1000 user limit is a limitation from the Xenforo forum software, so it's not something we can get around easily.

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Purely from a technical standpoint this likely puts a pretty big load on the database server(s), every time a page loads it has to look through and ensure it's filtering out up 1000 people. IMO this threshold is crazy high, if you had several people with that many people on their ignore list surfing the site concurrently it could severely impact the performance of the entire board.
 
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I'll repeat the answer I gave you when you made a similar statement in another thread: The fact that a post report exists does not mean that a post will be removed or edited. The "moderators" do indeed give a great deal of thought and often discussion to post reports before deciding whether or not action needs to be taken.

In addition, moderator actions are transparent to all other moderators and to the administrators, who oversee moderation. All moderation is thoroughly documented. It would be a lot easier to be a moderator and take a lot less time if all they needed to do was delete all reported posts!

Users shouldn't worry about abusing the report function. We never mind taking a look, and in rare instances where a user seems to regularly report posts that don't break rules, we reach out to explain the rule involved. That's to both our benefits.
That may be the case on the discussion board but in the instance I shared it was a private message that was reported of mine where only one side of the conversation could be reviewed. In that case it was abused because the person reporting it could hide their input and pretend to be a victim. Very sad on their part but I learned from that and cut them out.
 
That may be the case on the discussion board but in the instance I shared it was a private message that was reported of mine where only one side of the conversation could be reviewed. In that case it was abused because the person reporting it could hide their input and pretend to be a victim. Very sad on their part but I learned from that and cut them out.

This is turning into another topic, but it's worth saying here because not everyone is aware that personal conversation messages are subject to the forum rules, and can be reported just like any other post. Remember that you can report any PM you receive as well.

Please don't continue this discussion here, because I don't want to drive this thread further off-topic. But do feel free to report any PM you get that you feel breaks a rule, or to use the contact form if you feel you've been moderated in a way not covered in the rules. We really do encourage users to contact us, even when they don't agree with something we've done!
 
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This is turning into another topic, but it's worth saying here because not everyone is aware that personal conversation messages are subject to the forum rules, and can be reported just like any other post. Remember that you can report any PM you receive as well.

Please don't continue this discussion here, because I don't want to drive this thread further off-topic. But do feel free to report any PM you get that you feel breaks a rule, or to use the contact form if you feel you've been moderated in a way not covered in the rules. We really do encourage users to contact us, even when they don't agree with something we've done!


Why is MR so against openly talking about moderating? instead they continue to push for using the contact form i.e. pushing it "underground."

Hey, I am well aware that we are just guests here and we are free to go elsewhere BUT I continue to be ticked when the "moderators" are the bigger abusers of the forum rules than the guests.
 
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Could you please let us know what time you browse the forums?

The reason I ask is there are times the forum runs a little slow and I can see the issue now.

Personally I think the ignore function should be taken away.
 
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