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iHologram - For Real This Time

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iphones4evry1

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I can barely wait. This is going to be awesome to see on our own phones.

I hope they add more than just the tiger. They can add all kinds of stuff.
 
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Henryz

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Looks ok. Not sure I would buy it? Is it a game or just something to look at? :S
 
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jayducharme

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I can see some potential for future gaming. But as it looks from the video, iHologram is just a pretty demo of the technology. It doesn't seem to have any other point. If it's offered for free I might get it. Otherwise I'll wait for a later implementation.
 
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Maverick1337

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Lol I dont even have a 3GS and i would get this, just for future fun when the next iphone comes out. I'm glad it's real this time because I was so stoked when I first saw this in 2008 and was sadly disappointed when it was a hoax.
 
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underthesun

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I can barely wait. This is going to be awesome to see on our own phones.

I hope they add more than just the tiger. They can add all kinds of stuff.

There's actually 5 things you can see right now -- a running ninja, a walking mech, a jeep (best for seeing the anaglyph effect), a cat and that helicopter + air fighter scene.

As for making a game that uses this kind of technology, any suggestions are welcome :)
 
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zombitronic

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It's not perfect, but I love the concept. I think a more sensitive magnetometer would be required to improve the effect.
 
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maclancer

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I would love to see the compass technology in iPod touch. It can work thru WIFI, it does not need GPS. Its just Apple that want to keep the best features only for the iphone.
 
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zombitronic

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I would love to see the compass technology in iPod touch. It can work thru WIFI, it does not need GPS. Its just Apple that want to keep the best features only for the iphone.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the magnetometer (compass) has absolutely nothing to do with WiFi. Instead, it has everything to do with Earth's magnetic field.
 
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mkrishnan

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the magnetometer (compass) has absolutely nothing to do with WiFi. Instead, it has everything to do with Earth's magnetic field.

AFAIK that's correct -- the iPhone 3GS has a physical magnetometer in it; if one were added to the iPod touch, it could do this too. Does this app work purely through the magnetometer, though, or does it use the accelerometer to determine how the iPhone is turned? I guess, the difference is that the orientation of the cat would be absolute with the magnetometer instead of relative?

As far as the mag is concerned, many of the apps on the iPhone that use it, also use data services and/or GPS, since most of the use for the magnetometer to date has been in conjunction with some kind of map or navigation type of feature. I'm sure people could come up with creative things that use a magnetometer and need neither GPS nor data services, but I would think that Apple might not be particularly motivated to add one to the touch until there's some reason to expect people would.
 
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jayducharme

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As for making a game that uses this kind of technology, any suggestions are welcome :)

It's actually almost there right now. With the Avatar-style chopper, simply being able to fire at incoming craft and score like so many other top-down shooter games would be enough. The only difference would be a much more enjoyable visual experience. Since the craft is visible in 3D, perhaps damage could occur on all sides and when a certain percentage of the craft is damaged, the game's over.

As for the animals, I can see an added dimension to the virtual pet type of game. You could pet and feed it and lead it around a virtual (or maybe real) world. Again, the overall concept isn't new, but the "holographic" rendering would make the idea more visually appealing.
 
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one of the Labyrinth updates (the first version) and several other titles incorporated accelerometer based 3D appearance a long time ago. besides the fact that this new app also uses the magnetometer to achieve the 3D effect, i'm questioning why this story is of interest.
 
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VenusianSky

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All I have to say is Sega's "Time Traveler". 3D holographic video game that looked awesome, but was one of the worst video games ever IMO. From what I recall, thing cost up to $2 a play back in the early nineties.
 
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Sayer

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one of the Labyrinth updates (the first version) and several other titles incorporated accelerometer based 3D appearance a long time ago. besides the fact that this new app also uses the magnetometer to achieve the 3D effect, i'm questioning why this story is of interest.

Because w/o movement you can't tell where the device is located on a flat plane. If you rotate yes you can infer direction (based on speed over time), but the magnetometer gives a polar-based position on a flat plane even if you don't move the device at all for a while, or do so very slowly.

Playing the game Katamari on my iPhone gets frustrating because if you don't constantly jiggle the device to one side or the other your movement won't change. With a magnetometer you could simply rotate on a flat plane and get direction from that without having to constantly do a "teeter-totter" movement.
 
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nagromme

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Looks great in video, but seeing it live with two eyes will spoil the effect. (The same was true with Mach Dice.) With one eye closed, though, simulating the single eye of a YouTube video camera, the effect could look pretty cool!

Or tote glasses around. I need some in keychain form!
 
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macduke

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As far as the mag is concerned, many of the apps on the iPhone that use it, also use data services and/or GPS, since most of the use for the magnetometer to date has been in conjunction with some kind of map or navigation type of feature. I'm sure people could come up with creative things that use a magnetometer and need neither GPS nor data services, but I would think that Apple might not be particularly motivated to add one to the touch until there's some reason to expect people would.

Actually, I believe location services needs to be turned on because the magnetometer is physically located on the same board as the GPS. They are all on one unit that I believe has a single power supply. Yes, it's inefficient, and hopefully Apple will update it in the 4th gen iPhone for those who leave location services off. Though honestly I leave it on with my 3GS. I lucked out and got a "super battery."
 
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duke49er

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That's fantastic ! Quite impressive indeed.

Don't know what it's good for, but looks awesome.
 
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Stately

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Uh . . I don't know if anyone else noticed but that is not a hologram whatsoever. If you want to call it 3d fine. . nothing is being projected anywhere.
 
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MacFly123

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Uh . . I don't know if anyone else noticed but that is not a hologram whatsoever. If you want to call it 3d fine. . nothing is being projected anywhere.

THANK YOU! I saw the headline and then watched the video and I was like... HUH :confused: I guess it is kind of cool, but pretty worthless.
 
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kiljoy616

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Wacky games in 3D weee

There's actually 5 things you can see right now -- a running ninja, a walking mech, a jeep (best for seeing the anaglyph effect), a cat and that helicopter + air fighter scene.

As for making a game that uses this kind of technology, any suggestions are welcome :)

Make the helicopter smaller and go all out shooting 360 degree game, in the end its a good way to pass the time, perfection not required just fun and wacky games.

Zombie attack haha would also be great, who does not like shooting at Zombie and Infected. :D
 
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phaggard

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Looks ok. Not sure I would buy it? Is it a game or just something to look at? :S

It's kind of like my first computer only added 2 + 2 = 4. "What use could a computer be to anyone" I said then. "We already had the calculator."
 
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Kwill

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I thought the cat was going to fall off the screen when the phone was tilted. :D
 
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javaGuru

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I just loved the way he slammed down his iPhone right near the end of the video. About the only hologram effect I saw was it bouncing off of the table. lol.
 
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