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iLife'06 CONFIRMED!
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I am a little surprised with some thinking this will be a dreamweaver or even a Frontpage replacement. If iWeb will be the web editor it will be Apple style. Anyone that is here concerned about clean HTML or expect very flexible HTML editing is probably missing the point. That would not be part of iLife. Apple would put an extension into XCode for this. iLife is for simple people like me, that (burned out after 15 year of coding and IT, now just a simple being in this universe) don't care too much about those things anymore. The target group will be the iPhoto, iMovie and Garageband users. Just people who like to play in a creative way with those apps and want to share their result with their family and the rest of the world. That's what iLife is, and when iWeb is an iLife app, it will probably not be different. I am sure for most users, not the techies under us, it will suffice and fun as it will give instant results without a need for the technical understanding.
export to AAC??
I would NOT follow Apple's recommendation to use AAC. MP3 is more universal. I don't want to make my listeners have to play games to listen to the show.
rOckAPE said:
I would NOT follow Apple's recommendation to use AAC. MP3 is more universal. I don't want to make my listeners have to play games to listen to the show.
Then, again, maybe not... What's happening right now, this week, while Steve Jobs is polishing his Keynote presentation for the keynote on the 10th? CES... CES... CES...Zaty said:I guess no one will be surprised when SJ announces iLife 06 next Tuesday. However, it's un-Apple-like to confirm an announced product like that.
Apple isn't there, but they can sure command media attention & speculation about what they might reveal next week at MWSF... It doesn't matter if it's Intel laptops, iPods, iLife '06, more networks & studios on iTMS, a DVR Mac, whatever - people are more interested in what Apple "might" do, than in what others "do" do (or is that "doodoo"?).
Almost makes you feel sorry for Bill Gates' pathetic efforts to make Vista sound groundbreaking and revolutionary... Almost... Dress a pig up in a ball gown all you want, but you'll never get it to tango... On the other hand; dress a pig up in a clown suit and they'll ham it up (sorry, couldn't resist that last one).
Doctor Q said:
Umm...because using tables for layout is simply bad web design practice. It's completely unnecessary in modern CSS design. You should use tables ONLY for tabular data, the way they were originally intended to be used.
When I say "table-free", I don't mean absolutely NO table in the entire website. I only mean NO nested tables for layout purposes.
If you have truly tabular data to display, then by all means, use a table to do it. But if you are trying to make a three-column layout with a header and footer, using tables is the last thing you want to do.
Web pages load exponentially faster when you use semantic markup, including DIV tags to separate major sections of the page. Plus, they're much more search-engine friendly when coded correctly.
I've outlined the main reasons. Of course, I could get much more detailed than this, but I already wrote several essays and papers on this subject when I was in graduate school, so I don't have the energy to elaborate further.
MarcelV said:
Unfortunately, I think you're probably right. I've never expected Apple to release anything in the iLife suite (or anything else, for that matter) that would appeal to those with advanced technical and/or creative training.
But at the same time, they need to follow the standards I've mentioned even if they plan to make it transparent to the consumer users they target when they develop their software. The last thing anyone needs is a million more ridiculously bloated websites that make browser programmers' jobs more complicated.
Actually, if someone (perhaps Apple) would develop a website creation application that alleviated the need for all but the most professional users to fiddle with markup code, it would be beneficial to the Internet as a whole because it would mean fewer badly coded, non-compliant sites online -- and eventually browser programmers could stop trying to accommodate them with lousy quirks modes and such.
So I guess what I'm saying is that we NEED an application that simplifies things for the consumers by hiding all the programming stuff from them so they don't have to deal with it anymore.
I'm thinking Apple's iWeb will be similarly done as CSSEdit by Macrabbit. It will be a completely drag-n-drop GUI for webpages, including all the CSS/XHTML blah blah blah that modern websites use. The websites will be coded nicely, just like RapidWeaver makes their's, for example. But, the way iWeb will be like CSSEdit, is that it will be able to do webpage editing from the GUI or from manual coding- and the app will recognize and dynamically update from anything you manually type in. This is just how CSSEdit works- you can either edit CSS from the GUI mode, or switch it to source code mode and you can do everything yourself, and it recognizes everything immediately.
Apple's probably going to push .Mac very much now, and eventually leading up to that iDisk-centered media distribution system. The rumors we've seen in the past weeks may not ALL happen at MWSF- some may even happen next year (the crazy ones)! But, because they came, they will most likely come true sooner or later.
Apple's probably going to push .Mac very much now, and eventually leading up to that iDisk-centered media distribution system. The rumors we've seen in the past weeks may not ALL happen at MWSF- some may even happen next year (the crazy ones)! But, because they came, they will most likely come true sooner or later.
windowuser82 said:
That I can agree with..Apple's trying to remind folks that MWSF is 5 days away
AAC is open source. It's just Apple's DRM that makes it proprietary, but QT can play it as well. That being said, I would also go with MP3 as it is universal, but the quality isn't as high unless you up the filesize.gorkonapple said:
I'll bet iWeb is something for basic site creation as well. Just makes sense. For those worried about amatures creating horrible looking pages, they already do. Maybe Apple will help them suck less.
I love the way CNET says:
We "claim" do we? I'm pretty sure when i posted the screen shot i went to apple's site opened grab, took screen shot of window (yep i know there's a keyboard short cut but i always forget it).
CNET said:
We "claim" do we? I'm pretty sure when i posted the screen shot i went to apple's site opened grab, took screen shot of window (yep i know there's a keyboard short cut but i always forget it
).
But they don't know that you didn't make a stop in Photoshop along the way. So they say "claim", which is true (you DO claim it's a screenshot), rather than taking it at face value and making that claim themselves.SpaceMagic said:We "claim" do we? I'm pretty sure when i posted the screen shot i went to apple's site opened grab, took screen shot of window (yep i know there's a keyboard short cut but i always forget it
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solvs said:I'll bet iWeb is something for basic site creation as well. Just makes sense. For those worried about amatures creating horrible looking pages, they already do. Maybe Apple will help them suck less.
I don't know why, but I found that really funny.
I can see it now...Your webpages suck. iWeb will help them suck less. (TM)
As an amateur whose webpages do suck (I admit it), I would buy iWeb if that were the tagline, and I bet I'm not alone. I'm finally starting to get my footing in Dreamweaver, but I'm sure Apple could come up with something that's less powerful but less complicated and more elegant: "web design for the rest of us"
iWeb…people think a website creator…i think a new and improved safari…with ichat and mail built in…but once i think again…i think that it is more likely a website creator. I hope so. I need one.
Maybe in your world.magi.sys said:who cares about a website creator. what we really need is a spreadsheet program in iWork!!!!!!!!!!
In mine, I'd LOVE something that allows me to make my Blog and HobCast pages looks less templated. I gave up on trying to modify HTML... Guess I'm just lazy!
Why do you want a spreadsheet program so bad?
smqt said:
Someone will get fired. It's Steve's nature. People are scared to be in the same elevator as him because they may not have a job when they get out.
Anyway...
iWeb-a tad too obvious. Something to do with web pages, and idiot consumers(a.k.a. me) making them. Cool.
iLife '06-great. Now all I need is a mac to go with it.
I think this is the end of .Mac as we know it...I'm sure Apple make lots more cash selling copies of iLife each year than it does subscriptions to .Mac...so why not take a gamble on adding it as a feature of iLife - everyone gets a .Mac account and all the benefits that entails, and iWeb is just an updated version of .Mac's homepage app.
Afterall, if the rumours of massive storage space and bandwidth to accomodate these new video on demand services are true, then Apple would be mad to limit that purely to .Mac users (iTunes is free)...just add £10 to the cost of iLife (more than worth it when you consider the potential new features) to bring in a bit more cash to cover the loss in .Mac subsciptions - and cover the rest with profits from content sales of whatever the new media download service might be.
Afterall, if the rumours of massive storage space and bandwidth to accomodate these new video on demand services are true, then Apple would be mad to limit that purely to .Mac users (iTunes is free)...just add £10 to the cost of iLife (more than worth it when you consider the potential new features) to bring in a bit more cash to cover the loss in .Mac subsciptions - and cover the rest with profits from content sales of whatever the new media download service might be.
Swinny said:
I was thinking earlier how they couldn't just piss off hundreds/thousands/hundreds of thousands(?) of .Mac subscribers - it's like Steve said with the iPod... "we have to think really carefully about what we add, because we can't easily take it away again".
You really really couldn't bring in like a .Mac Lite thing... I for one have about 300 days left on my .Mac subscription, and I'd be pretty pissed off!
Not that I don't think it's a good idea, but I don't think I get my moneys worth as it is, let alone if they did the same thing for free.
The only thing I really pay for is my .Mac email address. It would take me an entire day to switch over to GMail - editing profiles on 20987209875298734 websites...
IMHO feature bloat (somthing that OTHER OS maker is famous for) is not the way to go with iLife '06.
I could care less about making a podcast, and I really don't think the world needs more boring podcasts that wouldn't make it on the radio at 2AM on a Sunday. Anyone ever persue the number of mind numbing podcasts on iTunes? And I don't want to make a webpage either. I've got better things to do with my time. Maybe that kind of app would be more appropriate in iWork for small businesses that want to put a site up but can't afford a pro designer. As for blogging, there is plenty of excellent and free blogging software for those who have something to say (most blogs are pretty inane though). Apple should spend it's R&D money on more cutting edge stuff.
What I would really love to see is a iMove that provides at least two video tracks and three audio tracks, and most importantly doesn't creep to a near hault once you get near the ten minute mark. I'd like to see a iPhoto that has more robust editing features. I'd like to see a iTunes that supports more than one library so that you don't have to come up with a bass ackward scheme when you have muliple iPods. In short, Apple should work on making the existing apps in iLife more stable and handy rather than filling it up with software usefull only to a limited number of people (namely the Internet saavy wannabes).
I could care less about making a podcast, and I really don't think the world needs more boring podcasts that wouldn't make it on the radio at 2AM on a Sunday. Anyone ever persue the number of mind numbing podcasts on iTunes? And I don't want to make a webpage either. I've got better things to do with my time. Maybe that kind of app would be more appropriate in iWork for small businesses that want to put a site up but can't afford a pro designer. As for blogging, there is plenty of excellent and free blogging software for those who have something to say (most blogs are pretty inane though). Apple should spend it's R&D money on more cutting edge stuff.
What I would really love to see is a iMove that provides at least two video tracks and three audio tracks, and most importantly doesn't creep to a near hault once you get near the ten minute mark. I'd like to see a iPhoto that has more robust editing features. I'd like to see a iTunes that supports more than one library so that you don't have to come up with a bass ackward scheme when you have muliple iPods. In short, Apple should work on making the existing apps in iLife more stable and handy rather than filling it up with software usefull only to a limited number of people (namely the Internet saavy wannabes).
Sure, why not. It's a free country.mpw said:
Seriously though, I do it on my Mac all the time. QT is set to open music files, iTunes is just the jukebox. As long as you have QT 7 to listen to stuff d/l'ed via iT6. But you have to dl them together now, so you'd still have iTunes on your PC anyway.If they use that, I expect compensation.autrefois said: