I'm genuinely surprised by the negative reviews of the Studio Display

They can, yes, but how many PC’s made today actually support DisplayPort 1.4?
If it has discrete AMD or NVIDIA graphics released in 2016 or later: DisplayPort 1.4.
If it has 10th-gen or newer integrated Intel graphics: DisplayPort 1.4.

Some laptops don’t have DisplayPort, but (hopefully) USB-C with support for DisplayPort Alternate Mode.

Some systems only have a HDMI 2.0 port — those are indeed hopeless for going beyond “4K”.
 
I disagree - the ASD is priced correct if my $1000 Apple Thunderbolt 27" display I have been using since 2011 is any indicator on longevity.

Try to get 11 years of monitor life in a plastic encased, less expensive monitor - I have gone thru many Dell, BenQ, HP, Gateway, etc in less than 5 years compared to my beloved Apple 27" Thunderbolt display.

$1600 is well worth it nowadays if it lasts as long as my $1000 TB display from 2011.
I’ve got a Dell 3007WFP-HC from 2006 that still works just fine, so you can quit that noise. It sucks too much electricity, but my room is toasty in the winter.

Plastic isn’t the sole predictor of a monitor’ value, just one of many variables. My SW271 retails for $1099, but has a cheap plastic chassis. Still, it does marvelously day in, day out.

Apple didn’t knock it out of the park with the Studio Display like they used to do when they released the older aluminum Cinema Displays or the Thunderbolt Displays (which I still think are complete crap as I had several on a lease that gave me nothing but grief the entire time we had them).

Truth is that this display has competition that Apple didn’t have in the day when it took the lead on LCDs in the early 2000’s. They have stiff competition now and they will have to prove this display is worth that kind of scratch.
 
If it has discrete AMD or NVIDIA graphics released in 2016 or later: DisplayPort 1.4.
If it has 10th-gen or newer integrated Intel graphics: DisplayPort 1.4.

Some laptops don’t have DisplayPort, but (hopefully) USB-C with support for DisplayPort Alternate Mode.
Right, but as you say there’s two pieces to the puzzle. The GPU has to support it, then they have to have support to send it out of the device. There’s not many I’m finding that call out support for DisplayPort 1.4 or support for up to 5K on the external in their spec sheets. But I can understand why, 5K isn’t something that’s a big deal for the vast majority of PC users, so the fact that their computers just support 4K over HDMI is fine for them.

I may take a moment later today to get a feel for how many of the top shipping laptops today would support a 5K monitor.
 
Tried one out at the Apple Store today and thought it was pretty great; at £1,000 I’d have been all over it. The extra £500 makes it pretty hard to justify for me tbh. Maybe one day.
 
They can, yes, but how many PC’s made today actually support DisplayPort 1.4? I just checked a list of “best PC laptops for 2022” (because most folks are buying laptops) and the one that was the best gaming laptop said it only supported 4K at 60Hz (I couldn’t even see that it supported DisplayPort at all).

If the top seller for PC’s continue to be laptops (and that isn’t likely to change), if PC laptops generally don’t support DisplayPort 1.4, then the market for 5K monitors would be quite small… small to the point of not being worth it for anyone other than Apple and LG to make monitors for.
Since higher end PC laptops tend to be gaming laptops, there’s no real incentive to support higher than 4K output anyways since driving anything higher than 4K is either impossible from a frame rate perspective or simply not desirable as game devs are going to coalesce their resolution targets at 1080p, 1440p and 2160p since the vast majority of monitors and HDTVs sold today fall into those three resolution ranges. Oddball resolutions are not lowest common denominator stuff and games have to target the LCD to recoup their investment given the relatively high cost of game dev in the year 2022. That being said, my Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX580 GPU supports DP1.4 and 5K at 60Hz. Not an OLD card, but certainly not a NEW card.
 
I also was wanting to run three displays, but at $1600 each, that's just too much. Maybe I can get one Studio Display and two other "affordable" 27" displays? Anyone else looking to cut costs by using this sort of "hybrid" approach with 2 or 3 displays?

Sounds like same use case as you... Lots of text, really wishing it was sharper.

Currently running a 30" Dell UP3017 in the middle with two 24" Dell U2415s in landscape. I have a Studio Display coming to replace the 30" as a trial. Wondering if the screen real estate is going to feel smaller and more cramped, but really looking forward to the sharper DPI.

If it feels right, I'm thinking maybe later in the year of replacing the 24" displays with two more Studio Displays to recover some of the real estate, or possibly pivoting to a Dell 32" 4K as a primary. Or maybe Dell will pony up a new generation of that 8K 32" Dell screen that's a little more plug and play with Mac OS.

We'll see in about two weeks when my Studio Display gets here.

Overall I can't believe there isn't more interest in high resolution desktop displays given how amazing the laptop screens have become. It feels like we stopped making progress here years ago.
 
I noticed this recently. I went to see Spider-Man with the kids and would have rather stayed at home and watched it on my 14” MBP
The 3D lens is a pain in the butt to swap and cinemas dumped all the projectionists. So solution…..3D all the time. Most AMC theaters didn’t order enough 2D lenses anyway. We are better off at home with an Apple TV and a nice display.
 
I agree with a lot of people here and am delighted to be wearing my “straight-jacket”. Yes it’s expensive but you get what you pay for, maybe not in headline display specs but in the design and build quality that is unrivalled. There is nothing on the market other than the Studio Display that looks this good on your desk, I’ve been looking on and off for years (except for the XDR). If you care about specs so much spend less on something clad in plastic and enjoy it. This will sell very well because there are plenty of people like me who don’t care for out and out specs and price as much as they do aesthetics and integration. We aren’t mad, we just have different priorities.
 
Since higher end PC laptops tend to be gaming laptops, there’s no real incentive to support higher than 4K output anyways since driving anything higher than 4K is either impossible from a frame rate perspective or simply not desirable as game devs are going to coalesce their resolution targets at 1080p, 1440p and 2160p since the vast majority of monitors and HDTVs sold today fall into those three resolution ranges. Oddball resolutions are not lowest common denominator stuff and games have to target the LCD to recoup their investment given the relatively high cost of game dev in the year 2022. That being said, my Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX580 GPU supports DP1.4 and 5K at 60Hz. Not an OLD card, but certainly not a NEW card.
That’s been kinda what I’ve been finding. While a lot of PC’s have the potential to drive 5K, their output is limited so today’s mass market PC’s are locked at 4K, I’m guessing a little wait before we’ll see them driving 8K out.
 
If it feels right, I'm thinking maybe later in the year of replacing the 24" displays with two more Studio Displays to recover some of the real estate, or possibly pivoting to a Dell 32" 4K as a primary. Or maybe Dell will pony up a new generation of that 8K 32" Dell screen that's a little more plug and play with Mac OS.

We'll see in about two weeks when my Studio Display gets here.

Please do update when it arrives. Maybe in a new thread since this one will likely be dead by then.

I'm also considering staggering purchases of Studio Displays, but that will still be a bit of a financial challenge. I don't think I have enough room on my desk for 32" though so I'd be looking at no more than 27". I do some photo editing but it's mostly just CADD work so high resolution is not a high priority, but the integration with MacOS that the Studio Display provides would be fantastic.

One thing Rene Ritchie mentioned in his review was that you can't use the display with universal control or the speakers in a sort of "home pod like" stereo setup with more than one display which feels like a missed opportunity, given its use of the A13. Not sure if that can be fixed in an update since there is likely no wifi/bluetooth radio in the display. If they had included these features, either from day one or at some future date, then maybe there'd be less griping.

I do agree with folks who say that the fit and finish looks spectacular and would last a long time (not that I expect anyone to actually make good on their claim of keeping it for 10 years). Just wish I could get it in a more affordable package.
 
I disagree - the ASD is priced correct if my $1000 Apple Thunderbolt 27" display I have been using since 2011 is any indicator on longevity.

Try to get 11 years of monitor life in a plastic encased, less expensive monitor - I have gone thru many Dell, BenQ, HP, Gateway, etc in less than 5 years compared to my beloved Apple 27" Thunderbolt display.

$1600 is well worth it nowadays if it lasts as long as my $1000 TB display from 2011.

A lot of "ifs" and unknowns there..

Your TB 27" didn't have an A series chip in it...
Those chips have only barely been around for 11 years now, let alone lasting that long in a usable fashion inside a product.

Fingers crossed...
 
Currently running a 30" Dell UP3017 in the middle with two 24" Dell U2415s in landscape. I have a Studio Display coming to replace the 30" as a trial. Wondering if the screen real estate is going to feel smaller and more cramped, but really looking forward to the sharper DPI.

I have a slightly older 30" Dell myself.

The biggest negative change for nearly all the display upgrade options nowadays is the aspect ratio change.

I am extremely hesitant to give up 16:10
The extra vertical space is so much more useful to me than more width.
 
I do agree with folks who say that the fit and finish looks spectacular and would last a long time (not that I expect anyone to actually make good on their claim of keeping it for 10 years). Just wish I could get it in a more affordable package.
I had my 20" ACD for 10 years. Only moved on for a better screen (5K iMac). Worked perfectly the day I sold it.

Get yearly AC and you have peace of mind with the ASD for a very long time.
 
After setting up my Ergotron arm, I can't understand why anyone would not go VESA. The fully adjustable setup might be the biggest single improvement over my old iMac from a day-to-day use standpoint.
Does the display wobble at all? I have a nano-texture VESA model on order, but the store near me had a standard model with the height-adjustment stand on Friday, so I also picked that one up to compare as I’m not yet sure if I want the standard or nano-screen. I have a fairly inexpensive VESA mount for my LG UltraFine 5K, and while it wobbles less than the included stand, it is still a bit wobbly. The Apple height-adjustment stand is rock solid at any height.
 
That’s been kinda what I’ve been finding. While a lot of PC’s have the potential to drive 5K, their output is limited so today’s mass market PC’s are locked at 4K, I’m guessing a little wait before we’ll see them driving 8K out.
I personally think 8K is a non-starter for a lot of reasons, not to be a contrarian or Luddite, but because there simply isn’t a compelling enough reason to try and rework existing 4K workflows to accommodate 8K. I don’t see that many 4K HDR workflows as it is right now, and 4K content can easily upscale to 8K. Just my opinion, not an indictment of tech moving forward. But I agree with you that 5K on the PC is also a complete non-starter except for high end workstation laptops, definitely not gaming laptops.
 
As I’m sure you know, the Huawei MateView’s 3:2 aspect ratio provides 6.7% more height than 16:10 at the same width.

Yeah, I've been keeping an eye on that.

I have to admit, I wish it had a few more pixels (that Surface Studio 4500 x 3000 28" screen would be my dream!)...

Ultimately I haven't figured out where to even buy the MateView easily.

At this point, I'm more keen for that cut down version as I don't want or need any of the extra features of the first one.
When is that more stripped down version out? Now?
 
I personally think 8K is a non-starter for a lot of reasons, not to be a contrarian or Luddite, but because there simply isn’t a compelling enough reason to try and rework existing 4K workflows to accommodate 8K. I don’t see that many 4K HDR workflows as it is right now, and 4K content can easily upscale to 8K. Just my opinion, not an indictment of tech moving forward. But I agree with you that 5K on the PC is also a complete non-starter except for high end workstation laptops, definitely not gaming laptops.
I don’t think it’s ludditic to think that. Just looking into the 5K landscape for the past few days highlights a performance disparity I was unaware of previously. It’s one of those situations where if you make it, they’re not going to come, mainly because they just don’t have a way to get there :)
 
I disagree - the ASD is priced correct if my $1000 Apple Thunderbolt 27" display I have been using since 2011 is any indicator on longevity.

Try to get 11 years of monitor life in a plastic encased, less expensive monitor - I have gone thru many Dell, BenQ, HP, Gateway, etc in less than 5 years compared to my beloved Apple 27" Thunderbolt display.

$1600 is well worth it nowadays if it lasts as long as my $1000 TB display from 2011.

I can provide photos of a pile of $200 dell monitors from 2005/2006 that are only being pulled from circulation because people are whinging about the screen estate being lacking despite them predominantly using a single sub 1920x1080 screen during WFH for 18 months, not because they're not working.

Meanwhile, sat underneath said pile is a much vaunted 2011 TB display, sat effectively as junk as some genius company built their cable bundle into the monitor rather than as a detachable cable for style purposes, said cables are unobtanium even in 2nd hand markets because of the same stupid failure point.

You want a metric of reliable, you go dell business monitors circa 2003 - 2015, not the TB display.
 
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