I'm Going on a Diet Plan!

[Kardashian]

Get your maths teacher fired.

If I'm suppose to have 2,000 calories a day, and he consumes 3000, whats that, oh, 50% more - and his high end estimation of 3,500 calories, is almost double what mine should be. Thank you.

I don't think I was being at all nasty, but thanks for making my point to me and everyone else who reads this thread.

I never said you were being nasty. I just dont like you, your attitude, or how you speak to people. Everytime you've replied to me, you talk as if your better, and your opinions matter more.

So far, everyone who's replied in this thread has been positive, other than you and some weird thing who couldn't see the point of the thread. And what exactly is your point? That I have an attitude? Notice the people who have replied with positive comments, have not had this 'attitude' you keep talking about - its only you, because quite frankly, you and your replies irritate me.

 

[Abstract]

You want to get liposuction because of 2 stones? I had a friend who got liposuction for being 150 lbs overweight, and he definitely needed it to reduce the excess skin. I'm not saying that every case is the same, but you likely don't need liposuction for 2 stones, especially after you start exercising. That'll probably make the difference anyway. Just exercise and diet. Lots of people do, and they get results without the surgery.

Not needing liposuction is a good thing. Believe it or not, they really can botch something as (seemingly) simple as liposuction.

And if ZoomZoomZoom eats 3000 calories, it's definitely not close to double the 2000-2500 calories that most males should have per day. I don't even see how you can argue with that, but OK.

 

[Kardashian]

You want to get liposuction because of 2 stones?

I would need to lose weight even have liposuction. I need to lose 2 stone no matter what. Lipo or not. My point is, if after losing weight, my body still 'sags' or has pockets of fat which are not responding to dieting and 'gymming-it' - then yes, Lipo would be something I would do.

Not needing liposuction is a good thing. Believe it or not, they really can botch something as (seemingly) simple as liposuction.

We don't know whether I will or not yet. But if I find training is something I enjoy a lot, and not only want to do upkeep, but maybe tone myself up into someone who has a good body - then lipo may be necessary for certain areas (as I just said). At the moment, no one knows whether I would benefit from or even need it, so we'll see what things are like once I lose the first stone, and the progress I will (hopefully) make.

I understand there are risks with all surgery - but if I'm going to work my ass off to shed the pounds, and a procedure could refine areas of my body my working-out cannot, I would be happy to go along with those risks. Remember, I'm not having 10+ stone removed, like your friend, mine is relativley small - it just doesn't look it at the moment...

Q to someone who can answer: Why is it Abstracts friend can have 10+ stone removed, but I need to get down to 13 before they'll even touch me?

 

[YS2003]

I think Lipo is a bad choice. A human body has certain minimum # of fat cells as part of our genes. Lipo sucks away those fat cells from the small section of the love handle areas. So, how the body makes up the lost fat cell? Usually at the weird places such as neck, leg, arm, and etc. When people get fat, each fat cells gets too big and split off into two and more and each new fat cell starts grow again. So, as you get fatter, you get fatter fast.

About 4 years ago, I was around 155 lbs. and I had to take the oral surgery. So, I was not able to eat for the next 2 weeks or so. So, I came down to 130 lbs. Since then, I have kept around 130 lbs. range with low carb, food with good fat (high end peanut butter, olive oil, fish), green vegetables. I only eat chicken/turkey and fish for meat (no beef, hamburger, hot dog, pork, ham, etc).

I don't recommend you should get the oral surgery as that is too extreme. But, for me, it worked well for me as a side effect.

The trick is to keep your muscle (with some weight training) while on diet. Muscle will keep your calories burning.

One good thing about being slim is I don't have to up-size my pants. I can use the same pants size I used to wear in high school/college.

 

[Abstract]

Because he had to have surgery on his stomach. He has two long, thick scars under his arms, and a scar on his chest where they "removed the excess skin." I guess yours would be much smaller by the time it healed. And actually, he was around 200 lbs overweight.

And when I said they can botch up a liposuction, I mean that since it's such an easy money-maker for doctors to do, many doctors do it even when they don't fully understand the procedure. Yes, they can do it and many people leave feeling 100%, but if something goes wrong they don't know what to do.

But anyway, since the large majority of people considered overweight are probably overweight by 20-40 lbs, and some of these diet and exercise successfully, I think you really should be fine without the surgery. It's not like people rush out and get surgeries like this done afterwards.

If you do, go to a place where they do this sort of surgery often. They're probably accredited and do this routinely, not just to make extra cash.

 

[YS2003]

One of colleagues in the other office just had a lipo. I think he spent about $20,000 or more for the operations. The company's insurance does not pay for it as Lipo is considered a cosmetic surgery. Since he was too overweight for the safe surgery, his doc put him on diet to bring down his weight to the lipo operation safe range. He did that. I think he should have kept doing that to bring down more on his own.

I have not seen him after the operations. But my colleagues who saw him said he looks a little "off balanced." His face and rest of the body is the same; but, the tummy section is slimed down.

 

[Abstract]

I think Lipo is a bad choice. A human body has certain minimum # of fat cells as part of our genes. Lipo sucks away those fat cells from the small section of the love handle areas. So, how the body makes up the lost fat cell? Usually at the weird places such as neck, leg, arm, and etc. When people get fat, each fat cells gets too big and split off into two and more and each new fat cell starts grow again. So, as you get fatter, you get fatter fast.

About 4 years ago, I was around 155 lbs. and I had to take the oral surgery. So, I was not able to eat for the next 2 weeks or so. So, I came down to 130 lbs. Since then, I have kept around 130 lbs. range with low carb, food with good fat (high end peanut butter, olive oil, fish), green vegetables. I only eat chicken/turkey and fish for meat (no beef, hamburger, hot dog, pork, ham, etc).

I don't recommend you should get the oral surgery as that is too extreme. But, for me, it worked well for me as a side effect.

I didn't really understand what you were saying until I realized that you were likely a girl. I mean, 130 lbs isn't healthy for a male unless he were shorter than average.

Sorry, I just couldn't understand how you could be happy about getting to 130 lbs.

 

[YS2003]

I didn't really understand what you were saying until I realized that you were likely a girl. I mean, 130 lbs isn't healthy for a male unless he were shorter than average.

Sorry, I just couldn't understand how you could be happy about getting to 130 lbs.

Actually, I am a bloke. I just don't like excess fat hanging around myself. I am thinking about bringing it up to 135 lbs. or so with more weight lifting (I do dumb bell exercise). I am usually between 125 to 129 lbs.

 

[Abstract]

Well they always say it's not healthy to be a guy and be so light, but my brother is 130 lbs and 5'10" (around 176 cm) and he seems healthy.

But he tries to put on that weight though. He just won't gain.

 

[YS2003]

Well they always say it's not healthy to be a guy and be so light, but my brother is 130 lbs and 5'10" (around 176 cm) and he seems healthy.

But he tries to put on that weight though. He just won't gain.

I think I would be in the similar physique as your brother, based on the weight/height info you mentioned.

 

[YS2003]

alocohol is bad for dieting

Alcohol is also bad for your dieting. It will retard your stomach's jobs to break down fats and other nutrients as it focuses its energy to break down alcohol first. Also, liver won't be able to break down fats as it needs to detox your body from poisonous alcohol. So, that comes the beer belly.
I used to drink beer (bad habit from college days). Now, I have been sticking with non alcoholic beer now (I heard there is the same heart-healthy ingredient in non alcoholic beer as well). When I am on overnight business trips with my boss, I will take one bottle of beer.

 

[Kardashian]

Alcohol is also bad for your dieting.

I only drink Vodka.

Apparently, you can have one or two, and they are much lower in calorie content.

Anyway, all this will be worked out with the Dr, I'm sure.

 

[BoyBach]

I only drink Vodka.

Apparently, you can have one or two, and they are much lower in calorie content.

Anyway, all this will be worked out with the Dr, I'm sure.

Yes, vodka is low in calories, but it contains lot's of alcohol (obviously), so be careful of what you eat whilst under the influence of it!

 

[Kardashian]

..but it contains lot's of alcohol (obviously)

It does take the edge off, LOL

be careful of what you eat whilst under the influence of it!

Haha! Thats awesome!

 

[YS2003]

I only drink Vodka.

Apparently, you can have one or two, and they are much lower in calorie content.

Anyway, all this will be worked out with the Dr, I'm sure.

Still, alcohol is a bad idea for dieting. But, a moderate drinking may not affect too much of the dieting.

 

[Kardashian]

Still, alcohol is a bad idea for dieting. But, a moderate drinking may not affect too much of the dieting.

I'm not going out until my 18th (end of January) - so hopefully I'd have lost nearly 2 stone by then - but I will make sure I continue to take care of myself.

I might have 1 or 2 on a Friday or a Saturday - but I won't be 'partying' anymore - until I'm in better shape.

 

[Mord]

Too be quite honest, Abstract, I've had enough of you in other threads. Get down off your high horse. I don't like you, and quite frankly, wish you wouldn't post on any future threads of mine.

You too have an attitude, and I believe that reply wasn't meant for you, or directed at you - so keep your nose and opinions out.

And 50% more is double, Abstract.

as an independent person in general your the one being a jerk, and 50% more is 1.5 times the original amount.

oh and i just remembered, i drink rather heavily..... on average about 40 units a week, usually conc. over one or two days.

 

[Kardashian]

as an independent person in general your the one being a jerk, and 50% more is 1.5 times the original amount.

oh and i just remembered, i drink rather heavily..... on average about 40 units a week, usually conc. over one or two days.

It was meant to read, "50% is almost double, Abstract''.

And I'm sorry, but as an independant person, it has nothing to do with you.

 

[Mord]

It was meant to read, "50% is almost double, Abstract''.

And I'm sorry, but as an independant person, it has nothing to do with you.

you basically just proved my point that your the one being a jerk.

 

[Kardashian]

you basically just proved my point that your the one being a jerk.

You are basically thread dumping.

The thread is about my weight, not me being a jerk, or about proving your or anyone elses point.

I couldn't care less what you think, or what your 'point' proves.

 

[Mord]

You are basically thread dumping.

The thread is about my weight, not me being a jerk, or about proving your or anyone elses point.

I couldn't care less what you think, or what your 'point' proves.

then why be so damn snipey and irritable when anyone other than you says something, abstract has always posted to a high standard, for you to criticize him in that way is unfair.

 

[Kardashian]

then why be so damn snipey and irritable when anyone other than you says something, abstract has always posted to a high standard, for you to criticize him in that way is unfair.

Firstly, calm down. Patience patience.

Secondly, when anyone other than myself posts? Right. Re-read the thread before replying. There was someone who labelled the thread pointless who I responded to negativley, as well as Abstract - as we obviously don't get on.

I, as an 'independant person' felt Abstracts responses unfair - as as one to not follow the crowd - voiced my opinions.

And I'm sure Abstract can defend himself, I'm sure he doesn't need an independant person such as yourself to defend his corner.

Thirdly, whats the point to all of this - hoping to wind me up so I sweat the weight off?

 

[BoyBach]

Thirdly, whats the point to all of this - hoping to wind me up so I sweat the weight off?

It might just work!

 

[Kardashian]

It might just work!

Would be wonderful if it did!

I can't wait to throw everything (food wise) out the house and go healthy-shopping, and, and, register at my gym! And be shown what to do.. and then cry with all the pain!

 

[BoyBach]

Seriously, stress can be a great motivator at the gym. I find that if I 'wind myself up' enough (a day at work usually does this for me!), then I can lift that little bit heavier for a little bit longer.

The gym is a great place to release all of your stress and anger on the lumps of metal, and not friends and family