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welshandrew said:
Seriously, stress can be a great motivator at the gym. I find that if 'wind myself up' enough (a day at work usually does this for me!), then I can lift that little bit heavier for a little bit longer.

The gym is a great place to release all of your stress and anger on the lumps of metal, and not friends and family :D

I will definatley keep this in mind.. I should lose it in double time then, :p
 
josh.thomas said:
Lets hope so! I'm gonna be putting everything into it, just wish I'd done it a month ago, when summer break started! I could have gone back all new! :(



Yes - this will be used if after losing 2 - 2 1/2 stone, my shape still isn't as I would like. Although, it should be - I'm not aiming for the washboard abs look. ;)

If after losing 2 - 2 1/2 stone you are not in the shape you would like, keep eating healthily and doing exercise.

You need to lead a healthy lifestyle... for life! Not even 18 and considering liposuction really saddens me.
 
mouchoir said:
If after losing 2 - 2 1/2 stone you are not in the shape you would like, keep eating healthily and doing exercise.

You need to lead a healthy lifestyle... for life! Not even 18 and considering liposuction really saddens me.

The idea of going to a gym regularily, and working, seeing a change in yourself really inspires me - right now I'm excited, and want to do it.

All my friends are buffed up to the hilt - I mean, seriously. I'm like the only one, haha :eek:

I think once I get 'into' it - Its going to be a regular thing, maybe not to achieve a chisseled/defined look, but to stay a relativley good shape - not 'fat'.

The Lipo, as I've said, would only be considered if there were pockets of weight which excerise and healthy eating were not shifting - I wouldn't have stone upon stone removed.
 
Hector said:
you basically just proved my point that your the one being a jerk.

Haha, forget it. He gets snippy at people who have opinions that don't match his own. Despite thinking this while reading some of his responses in this thread, I think maybe it was my fault for even bringing it up. People don't change from things they read at forums on the internet.


Whatever. I just meant that with the number of fat people on a diet in the world, I doubt you or anyone else who has to lose 20-30 lbs has to get surgery to help things further. There's no such thing as a 100% safe surgical procedure. As many prostate cancer treatments as I've seen, nothing is ever THAT routine (although it is).


josh.thomas said:
It was meant to read, "50% is almost double, Abstract''.

:eek:
 
Abstract said:
Haha, forget it. He gets snippy at people who have opinions that don't match his own.

Yes, I'm sure. You know me so well after all.

Abstract said:
I think maybe it was my fault for even bringing it up.

And please don't even do the Martyr thing!

Look, you don't like the way I am, and I don't get on with you - so just don't respond to me on MR - if I'm that bad, surely you won't want to talk to me.
 
Wow, good luck with the dieting. Your math isn't all that great (not trying to re-spark an argument) so may I suggest getting a portion list from your doctor? Preferably something with no guesswork so you wouldn't have to rely on your math. Because it really truly does suck. 50% is a far cry from double. 100% of any particular item would make it double. 50% is 1/2 of that. Not quite double. I'm really not trying to jump on you but you should get this straight before you attempt a diet plan to make sure you are doing it correctly. I truly wish you the best, and hope that when you see what diet and excersize can do for you maybe you will find that lipo is unnecessary. IMO it really is too much risk for too little weight. But to each his own, and I wish you luck with your weight-loss endeavors.
 
I'm thinking of doing a 15min light jog every morning, and a 2 mile cycle every 2 days - we live in the country - whaddya think? Worth it? People had good results this way?
 
josh.thomas said:
Its been said, by my Dr, with 3 hours a week in a gym, and a diet change, you can lose a stone (14lbs) in 6 weeks.

So.. maybe in 5 months, 3 stone could be gone?

I'm hoping to lose that first stone, once thats done - I'll be over the moon!

I lost it in 2.5 weeks. I am on a crash diet for a pending reservist weighin.
 
stubeeef said:
I lost it in 2.5 weeks. I am on a crash diet for a pending reservist weighin.

1. Well done!
2. How much did you lose?
3. What exercises?
4. Where can I get the diet? :p
 
josh.thomas said:
I'm thinking of doing a 15min light jog every morning, and a 2 mile cycle every 2 days - we live in the country - whaddya think? Worth it? People had good results this way?


Absolutely. Start with something 'small' and achievable, and then progress slowly but steadily. Remember the old saying about not running before you can walk? It applies here also, don't go trying to push yourself too far, too quickly, or you'll run the risk of disheartening yourself before you even begin.
 
katie ta achoo said:
Today I decided that I'll also go on a exercise plan.. I have a gym at uni that I pay for with tuition, so I'd better use it, right? :)

I'm worried that the freshman 15 is catching up to me.. I've been eating horribly for the last week or so, and while it may be purely mental, I think I look a little chubbier than since school began. :eek:


I'm with ya, Josh! :)
Moral support for all!

The Freshman 15 shouldn't be a factor unless you become sedentary. Good luck with the excercising.
 
josh.thomas said:
stubeef said:
I lost it in 2.5 weeks. I am on a crash diet for a pending reservist weighin.
1. Well done!
2. How much did you lose?
3. What exercises?
4. Where can I get the diet? :p

4. -> Come to America and sign up for the Marines. Probably one of life's higher (and most hardcore) callings.

But I'm assuming stu lost 14 pounds in 2.5 weeks.

Which almost certainly isn't healthy, since that's about 2,800 calories a day. (Approx 3,500 calories is 1 pound of fat, for everyone regardless of your weight/metabolism). You'd have to be a pretty big guy with a fast metabolism, eat almost nothing, and exercise a ton for 2.5 weeks.
 
josh.thomas said:
The idea of going to a gym regularily, and working, seeing a change in yourself really inspires me - right now I'm excited, and want to do it.

All my friends are buffed up to the hilt - I mean, seriously. I'm like the only one, haha :eek:

I think once I get 'into' it - Its going to be a regular thing, maybe not to achieve a chisseled/defined look, but to stay a relativley good shape - not 'fat'.

The Lipo, as I've said, would only be considered if there were pockets of weight which excerise and healthy eating were not shifting - I wouldn't have stone upon stone removed.

You shouldn't even have lipo in your head period. Imagining that you may have pockets of weight you can't shift before even starting exercise and heathy eating is like giving up...
 
Anyone who has liposuction planned at the age of 17 for an extra couple of stone should seriously examine their motivations. You don't need a diet plan, you need a counsellor.
 
Blue Velvet said:
Anyone who has liposuction planned at the age of 17 for an extra couple of stone should seriously examine their motivations. You don't need a diet plan, you need a counsellor.

I used to have one, and a Psychiatrist. Would you like their numbers - you seem to have some issues yourself.
 
josh.thomas said:
I used to have one, and a Psychiatrist. Would you like their numbers - you seem to have some issues yourself.


The only issues I have is with people who take things far too personally. I give you a serious piece of advice and yet you take it as a personal slur... something I've noticed you do in this thread and elsewhere.

What you have is an issue with your self-esteem. Stop taking it out on others who give you advice that runs contrary to your own distorted thinking about your body.

You're just far too thin-skinned and no amount of teeth-whitening and weight-loss is going to help with that. Get back in touch with your psychiatrist.
 
Before this thread gets the MacRumors Clamp 'O Death I'd just like to herald the benefits of exercise. I barely watch what I eat but exercise quite profusely and don't believe I have a weight problem. The only thing I worry about when it comes to food is that I'm getting all the vitamins and minerals I need to keep up with my exercise and life in general.

There's a lot of negative energy in this thread. Perhaps it would be put to better use in the pool or on the track. :cool:

Good luck with whatever techniques you do end up using josh.thomas. :)
 
Blue Velvet said:
What you have is an issue with your self-esteem. Stop taking it out on others who give you advice that runs contrary to your own distorted thinking about your body.

You're just far too thin-skinned and no amount of teeth-whitening and weight-loss is going to help with that. Get back in touch with your psychiatrist.

See, this is what annoyed me about you last time.

You speak to me as if you know everything about me. Thin skinned? Please love, grow up. You don't know me, all you know is 'of' me - from reading my posts. You don't know what I've been through or whats gone on in my life, and your thin skinned remark is, believe me, wrong. Thats pathetic.

I don't have an issue with my self esteem. I have an issue with being overweight. I am seeking advice from a Dr, and training, to combat that. Should I wish to take the route of surgery, like thousands of other people - I will. And I will not consult people like you before hand.

My 'taking out' was not against people whos advice differed from my own beliefs, it was against people like you - who think they can speak to anyone, anyway they like (As I remember, this was the reason we had words, before - to which you made threats regarding having friends 'high up' on MR)

I am making what I see as improvement to myself, whether it be teeth whitening, St. Tropez, or going on a weigh loss program.

I was seeing a Psychiatrist and a Councillor for totally different reasons - some I bet someone like you would fail to even recognise, let alone be willing to understand.

Before you go shooting your mouth off at me, bringing up matters that don't even relate to weight loss - take a look at yourself.
 
mad jew said:
Good luck with whatever techniques you do end up using josh.thomas. :)

Thanks Jewy! .. And from what I've seen, you have nothing to worry about. You've got the whole Aussie surfer look going on :p haha.
 
josh.thomas said:
Thank God. You didn't half go on last time.

What exactly is it with you? Holding grudges, lashing out, making assumptions, patronising remarks, an inability to take criticism.

I and others remark on the folly of liposuction and the thought-processes involved and yet you take it so personally.

I wish you the best for your intended weight-loss but wanting lipo for a couple of stone says more about your state of mind than your waist-line.
 
Blue Velvet said:
What exactly is it with you?

I don't know. Your the one suggesting I have mental problems, maybe you could answer that one?

Blue Velvet said:
I wish you the best for your intended weight-loss but wanting lipo for a couple of stone says more about your state of mind than your waist-line.

Thank you very much. I would like to point out, I did say that the lipo would be for after losing the weight. You find that when some over weight people lose weight, some areas sag, or they suffer from left over skin etc - lipo/tummy tuck would sort this. It was never suggested as a weight loss product, or otherwise. It would be the end procedure - should I need things 'tightened'.

After last time, I thought me and you could bury our negative vibes, we seemed to post/reply fine in the thread about your new phone, but obviously not.

What I dislike about you (I may as well be honest, you asked) is that I find when you reply sometimes, you seem to get too personal. Your remark about me needing to seek help instead of going on a diet was uncalled for, and quite rude. Sorry if you don't see it, thats how I perceive it. Not by being thin skinned. Anyway, reply if you want but I'm not carrying on another pointless feud.
 
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