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I have to say your opinion is just as irritating and uninformed as those who bash macs.

Pop-ups, BSOD, crashes, etc only occur if you're using Windows WRONG. An educated user won't experiance those problems.

I'm currently using a macbook as my main machine (until i can decide what i want to replace my ageing desktop with) but my previous laptop was a dell running XP. I used it solid for 4 years. Never got a BSOD, not a single virus, i don't recall any hard crashes but if there were any i'd easily count them on one hand.

OS X, XP/Vista, Mac, PC. It really makes no difference, 99% of the time anything one can do you can do with the other (sometimes in a different way or with different software.

The fanboys on either side all come off as ignorant and uninformed. It is possible (and logical) to be thrilled with OS X without sounding like a moron and crying about Windows.

good points. I was also wondering what in heck the original poster was upgrading from. There's a fallibility in believing that a Mac is better if you switch from an old PC (or that a PC is better when you switch from an old Mac). You are comparing an old piece of equipment to a new one.

I have two Macs, but have to say that my PCs are just as dependable. I'm writing this on a 18 month old HP laptop running XP that cost $900 and has an awesome screen with great video performance. In the time I've owned it, I've never had a BSOD, or had to reboot for a problem. Never, not once. Never had a virus. The same thing applies to an HP multimedia desktop I got a few months ago, which runs Vista. It's a simply amazing machine. It has a built in TV tuner, which lets me run a window of high def. video in one corner, while I work on other things simultaneously. The 24" screen is prettier than the Imac 24" screen. And the video performance is better. It cost $1500 with the monitor.

So again, glad you're enjoying your Mac (and I do like mine, too), but please avoid blanket generalizations that aren't true. What were you running before, anyway? Windows 3.0?
 
No truth. OSX is easy to learn for anyone open minded no matter what their computing competency. Advanced users can do command and short cuts, while beginners can click their way around.

Above when I meant advanced users, I was really talking about people who use their macs from the terminal (basically as a unix system) whilst wanting to run an OS that wasn't linux!
 
I'd guess that if you took a poll among Mac and Windows users, you would find that a larger percentage of Mac users have experience with both Mac OS and Windows (many of them either "converting" from Windows or still having to use Windows at work), whereas a smaller percentage of Windows users have experience on both. From that standpoint, it's likely that a higher percentage of Mac users are more knowledgeable and equipped to make informed comparisons of Mac OS vs Windows than would be true among Windows users.

But then again, a lot of people I've known who have switched to Macs may have "Windows experience" yet were awful PC users, hence them wanting to switch. A lot of the problems of Windows that people give as examples seem either to be stereotypes of the un-informed or just problems caused by sheer awful usage.

I know what you're saying, and to an extent it's probably true, but there are an awful lot of holier-than-thou Mac users who seem to act as if owning a Mac makes them special, and enlightened. It gives the people who just have a preference for one or the other (in this case, a regular, non-preachy Mac user), look bad.
 
However, I'd argue that the snobbery tag inevitably comes to almost anyone who appreciates good design, that elegant fusion of form and function which is best expressed by great design. In the world of computing, that is best expressed by Apple, although even in the PC world, there are attractive products (Sony have long excelled at design). So, yes, I'm a snob, if snob is one who loves products which are well designed, aesthetically attractive, work well and do what they are supposed to do extremely well. Cheers

That would be me.

That doesn't make you a snob it makes you a person with taste and high standards. If you looked down on people who didn't share your tastes however, that would make you a snob
 
oh, a PC vs. Mac discussion. I have to follow this, I wonder what the outcome will be?

I'll take this opportunity to ask for shopping advice:
I need to use a computer with 8 USB ports. External USB hubs won't do. I already have all my peripherals here and 2x PCI USB hubs. What machine/configuration do you suggest?


Thanks ;)
 
oh, a PC vs. Mac discussion. I have to follow this, I wonder what the outcome will be?

I'll take this opportunity to ask for shopping advice:
I need to use a computer with 8 USB ports. External USB hubs won't do. I already have all my peripherals here and 2x PCI USB hubs. What machine/configuration do you suggest?


Thanks ;)

Just curious: why wouldn't an external USB hub work?
 
I have to say your opinion is just as irritating and uninformed as those who bash macs.

Pop-ups, BSOD, crashes, etc only occur if you're using Windows WRONG. An educated user won't experiance those problems.

I'm currently using a macbook as my main machine (until i can decide what i want to replace my ageing desktop with) but my previous laptop was a dell running XP. I used it solid for 4 years. Never got a BSOD, not a single virus, i don't recall any hard crashes but if there were any i'd easily count them on one hand.

OS X, XP/Vista, Mac, PC. It really makes no difference, 99% of the time anything one can do you can do with the other (sometimes in a different way or with different software.

The fanboys on either side all come off as ignorant and uninformed. It is possible (and logical) to be thrilled with OS X without sounding like a moron and crying about Windows.

I agree that people can get out of hand with their windows and especially vista bashing. While I prefer OSX I quite like vista.
However it's just plain inaccurate to say that all BSOD's are caused by user error, today I simply saved and exited the Sims and got a BSOD. No fault of my own. They just happen sometimes, the same way spinning beach balls just happen at times in OSX. Often the user had not done a thing wrong.
 
oh, a PC vs. Mac discussion. I have to follow this, I wonder what the outcome will be?

I'll take this opportunity to ask for shopping advice:
I need to use a computer with 8 USB ports. External USB hubs won't do. I already have all my peripherals here and 2x PCI USB hubs. What machine/configuration do you suggest?

I was also curious what 8 USB peripherals do you need to use all at once?
 
I know what you're saying, and to an extent it's probably true, but there are an awful lot of holier-than-thou Mac users who seem to act as if owning a Mac makes them special, and enlightened. It gives the people who just have a preference for one or the other (in this case, a regular, non-preachy Mac user), look bad.

I completely agree that the "zealots" on both sides who act smug, pious, condescending or otherwise obnoxious are simply demonstrating blatant immaturity. I've seen the ones you refer to, who couldn't tell a .plist from a .dll file or a registry entry from a .bundle file, who blindly claim that "Macs are perfect; Windows is garbage" or "Macs are garbage; Windows is perfect".

The fact is, there's a reason for both Macs and PCs to exist. Which you prefer will depend to a great extent on what you expect from a computer, what applications you value most, what you need in terms of hardware design, what your budget is and, finally, what you just happen to like.

I don't think that someone who prefers Windows is necessarily intellectually challenged, or that someone who prefers Macs is necessarily intellectually enlightened. I DO believe that the only opinions that have value in any Mac vs Windows discussion are those held by people who have knowledge and experience with both.
 
The fanboys on either side all come off as ignorant and uninformed. It is possible (and logical) to be thrilled with OS X without sounding like a moron and crying about Windows.

You may want to read my initial post again, I never said that PEOPLE who used PC's were dumb, not as good as me, etc... as you and some other people insinuated. As for the title of my post, it was meant in jest. Yes, i switched to Mac and really LOVE the intuitive, sleek looking OS and GUI respectively, I think ANYONE who used it for a solid week would. With that being said, I would hope people had enough sense to not think i would judge someone on what type OS they use. Pretty shallow. If anything i was asking if people had to deal with PC fanboys who just bash macs. Ironically, i agree with your quote above, Fanboys are very annoying

BTW I was upgrading from 2 desktops ( about 36 months old ) , one running XP home the other XP pro, both had AMD dual athlon xmd's and they were ok for the most part, until one machine wouldnt upgrade to ser pack 2 and the other would constantly crash, when i would TRY to contact Windows, god help you if you ever attempt it, ill leave it at that lol A total joke, NO CUSTOMER SERVICE!!! none nada, zilch, nothing. I have yet to need apple support BUT i hear that they are incredible and based on the stability of their unix based system, i believe it.
 
with no virus no spyware no slowdowns will save them time (time is money).

HAH... you're kidding yourself if you don't think there are viruses and spyware... and what the heck does mac snob mean? Apple fan boy? I love watching people preach the good news of apple when they don't have a clue about computers. Yes Apple Inc, builds effin sweet machines, and there OS is outstanding... but that doesn't make them the only computer i use. Try hacking a psp with a mac... the fact that so many people use windows, makes windows useful.

-  snob
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