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I'm out. Low-end gpu in 4k machine? Don't fool us.
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Its because that video is dumb. The performance in Besiege is bad because the games has issues with simulating very complex constructions. People using top-end gaming GPUs have similar problems. Mafia 3 is a very demanding game: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mafia-3-Notebook-and-Desktop-Benchmarks.180328.0.html As you can see, only the desktop GTX 1080 manages to run the game at very high quality and full HD. The guy in the video runs a slightly higher resolution and still manages to get somewhere what feels like 20-25 FPS at low/med settings. Which is a really good result, given that its faster than most gaming laptops still currently sold (again, the most widespread mobile gaming GPUs are 950m/960m). And so on.
All in all, the author of the video either has no idea what he is talking about (like complaining that Mafia 3 doesn't run well above full HD on a thin and light laptop when most desktop GPUs are having issues maintaining playable framerates under these conditions), or he is just purposely trying to manipulate the layman into thinking that the MBP is crap. The fact is that the MBP performs just as well or better as laptops in its category (e.g. Surfacebook with Performance Base, XPS 15" etc.) AND that even better than a mid-range/budged gaming laptop (which is quite good, because the MBP has a very different design focus). There are enough benchmarks and gaming videos on youtube that show that you can play modern games like GTA 5 and Overwatch with quality and performance never before achievable on a Mac laptop.
So you could not afford best apple devices then? It has been like this for years, same arguments, why the hell they removed floppy, are they crazy by removing firewire, I can't even connect my ipod to my laptop, why remove CD-ROM, I need to watch my DVDs, they are doomed.It is NOT about gaming. Please readIt is nowhere near future proof, innovative. I grew up with apple being the #1 in the creative industry, sadly enough those days are gone.
Now we have the same **** about USB-C.
Macbook pro 2016 is already fastest selling Apple laptop ever and fastest selling laptop among competitors, you may live with your illusions that it is not pro enough, the market has spoken.
I was one of the posters here who are very frustrated with with apple's AMD love fest, however, seeing that nvidia cheaped out also and decided to go with the same inferior Samsung 14nm process as AMD for the 1050(glofo is basically Samsung 14nm), shows that the desktop 1050 is only about 5% overall faster than the 460. Nvidia has kept the better TSMC 16nm made chips 1060 and above which draw too much power to be put in Ive's super slim chassis...
The valid complaint though is the anemic 450 that's being placed in the starter rmbp 15 builds. In the previous dgpu equipped generations of rmbp, the lower end configs still had the higher end dgpu, now they're given a very low end dgpu that's basically giving the same performance as the previous generation.
The valid complaint though is the anemic 450 that's being placed in the starter rmbp 15 builds. In the previous dgpu equipped generations of rmbp, the lower end configs still had the higher end dgpu, now they're given a very low end dgpu that's basically giving the same performance as the previous generation.
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Hahah you can attempt to ask him again if he dares to reply anymore what changes he wants to see.
The low end dGPU is still better than the base model iGPU last years model and even matches the high end dGPU m370x from last time round, while being far less power hungry cooler quieter and fitting in a super slim chassis, what's not to love??
FCP has been updated for the new MacBooks and it just flies according to reviews
http://9to5mac.com/2016/11/22/2016-macbook-pro-speed-versus-retina-macbook-pro/
Here we go - another Apple apologist defending the higher-price-but-no-better Macbooks.
We used to get upgraded performance with the new generation. Now we're getting the same performance while paying more (the previous generation rMBP's were regularly discounted down the price of the lowest model 2016 rMBP15). Who cares about the less power hungry part as Apple cut off 20% of the battery making it a wash in total battery life.
I love when people make particular mindshare based on one film from youtuber who does not even know what he is doing with the games.
Proper gaming review would be using Overwatch, BF1, Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare, Forza Horizon 3.
Also I assure you. The way MBP runs games in 4K has nothing to do with how it works with 4K professional applications.
Proper gaming review would be using Overwatch, BF1, Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare, Forza Horizon 3.
Also I assure you. The way MBP runs games in 4K has nothing to do with how it works with 4K professional applications.
Apple feels that they have the ability to charge the premium, given their new "tech" like the touchbar and touchID. However, it's perfectly up to the consumer to decide whether it's worth the premium. Inconclusive so far on what the battery life is like, may be worse for the 13" and pretty much about there for the 15" (or 1 hour more actually).
M370X is slower than Radeon Pro 450.
Unigine Valley score from MobileTechReview youtube channel for last year model: 18 FPS. The same app score for Radeon Pro 450: almost 24 FPS on average.
Radeon Pro 460 will be at least 30% faster, from 450.
10 new MacBook Pro 15" 2.9Ghz 512GB models rolled out this morning at our client. All loaded up with Adobe CC and running InDesign etc. No complaints from the design team, they all look pretty chuffed with them, 4 of them hooked up to 27" 4K monitors (the others haven't arrived yet).
They were moved onto MacBooks from a mix of 2013 iMacs and MacBook Pros as they will be working between London and NYC. Lots of smiling faces. Whilst I look on with a tear in my eye as mine doesn't arrive till next week
They were moved onto MacBooks from a mix of 2013 iMacs and MacBook Pros as they will be working between London and NYC. Lots of smiling faces. Whilst I look on with a tear in my eye as mine doesn't arrive till next week
Performance in LoL (League of Legends) is also better in 2016 MacBooks... my guess is that games that leverage Apple's Metal will benefit greatly from the new MacBooks
We have got upgraded performance by any metric the new MBP's are faster than any previous MacBook Pro, please read some reviews from people who have actually used them like the one helpfully posted just above.
The low end GPU performance is now the same as the previous high end GPU performance and the high end is up there with a PlayStation 4 for sheer graphics power, so why don't you consider it an improvement?? So that's a thin light small laptop with ten hours battery life (more than the 2015) the best screen on the market the fastest ports on the market and it matches the GPU power of the most powerful games console on the market!!
Are you some sort of simpleton or do you just not get it?? It's an amazing piece of design to create the most balanced portable machine they can come up with, this has been their goal with laptop design for a decade and every new iteration has got a bit closer to it and they are finally there....
I played Tomb Raider on my 2016MBP with 2.9/460GPU, and it looked good to my console-playing eyes but got really hot on my lap. I could play it on a monitor, sitting in my office, but then that's no more convenient than my console... I don't see the point in gaming on a laptop personally, so I really don't have a lot of skin in this game (unless it's Minecraft (runs great btw) because that's pretty much only playable with a mouse IMHO).
Anyway, why I'm really posting is to point out the click-bait-ish $4300 claim. The $3100 model with a 512GB SSD has the exact same gaming performance as the $4300 with 2TB.
Anyway, why I'm really posting is to point out the click-bait-ish $4300 claim. The $3100 model with a 512GB SSD has the exact same gaming performance as the $4300 with 2TB.
Please list the other quad core kaby lake laptops with DDR4 and 12+ hours of battery life.
One more thing. The DDR4 debate.
DDR3 2133 MHz and DDR4 2133 MHz will have EXACTLY THE SAME PERFORMANCE. Even CAS Latancies will be exactly the same, unless overclocked.
DDR3 2133 MHz and DDR4 2133 MHz will have EXACTLY THE SAME PERFORMANCE. Even CAS Latancies will be exactly the same, unless overclocked.
Exactly the amount of uninformed people spouting utter turd on this website is unbelievable!! Anandtech did a study on ddr4 s ddr3 18 months ago and said at the current speeds the performance is no different!!
Yes ddr4 will be a lot faster with time and the CPU architecture to take advantage of it but currently it makes precisely no difference at all!!
Well, why would be difference in performance between them? The reason why there are different types of memory is planned obsolescence. 2133 MHz DDR and 2133 MHZ DDR is exactly the same performance. The number defines the standard only.