That slower one is an entirely new computer. The CPU in the (now) Higher model is the same, it used to be the base model.
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That slower one is an entirely new computer. The CPU in the (now) Higher model is the same, it used to be the base model.
They're trying to confuse us
That slower one is an entirely new computer. The CPU in the (now) Higher model is the same, it used to be the base model.
They're trying to confuse us
The low end model has a Core i5 but lower clocked, obviously a bit cheaper for them to buy. As to the other 2 models I've no idea, they have changed the config around and dropped the pricing. Yeap confusing for sure.
I like the low end model, after the Skylake update it could be a decent machine, depending on what you want to use it for of course.
Thank you.
That slower one is an entirely new computer. The CPU in the (now) Higher model is the same, it used to be the base model.
They're trying to confuse us
I got confused thinking the new model was the old model with the fusion drive removed and that the other was a reduced price high end model. Looking at the specs of the high end model made me question this. It didn't help that I thought the original price here was £1799 when it was actually £1999.
Does the revised imac 5k released today have faster thunderbolt ports than the one released last year?
The apple press release mentions
"The new iMac also includes 8GB of memory and 1TB of storage, as well as four USB 3.0 ports and two Thunderbolt 2 ports that deliver up to 20Gbps each, twice the bandwidth of the previous generation"
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/201...ad-New-1-999-iMac-with-Retina-5K-Display.html
The apple press release mentions
"The new iMac also includes 8GB of memory and 1TB of storage, as well as four USB 3.0 ports and two Thunderbolt 2 ports that deliver up to 20Gbps each, twice the bandwidth of the previous generation"
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/201...ad-New-1-999-iMac-with-Retina-5K-Display.html
No, shouldn't. TB 2 is in principle 10 Gbps up and 10 Gbps down, so 2 channels per cable, one for sending data to the host, one for receiving data. So it's full duplex.
The change of TB 1.0 vs. 2.0, introduced in 2013 is that the 2 channels can be combined into one single half duplex channel resulting into a full 20 Gbps.
IMHO, any Mac introduced after Q3 2013 supports TB2, so max. 20 Gbps bandwidth.
TB3 (to be introduced later this year) will double the speed again.
Guess the PR department of Apple need some education on the specs of the stuff they are selling.
I'm also a bit disappointed with the way they market USB type-C on the new Macbook. It's USB 3.0 with the high power spec (charging part). Maybe we'll see USB 3.1 (10 Gbps full duplex, so like TB2) at Computex showing up in PCs. Issue is the host controllers and AFAIK the Intel chipsets still lack and/or will lack USB 3.1 support this year. Don't think Apple for its Macbook/iMacs will use discrete host controllers (so sep. parts).
After researching a bit about the 2 graphic cards
It seems the AMD R9 M295X is a cheaper than the 980M that everyone seems to be dreaming about.
It will come at no surprise to me that in the next update Apple may introduce the 980M at a higher price point.
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Now my question is if I assume the graphic card to make no difference to me with my basic computing need, will the Skylake a major breakthrough over and above the Haswell used at current max out level i7 4Ghz?
I.e. If i buy a 5K retina imac now, and I know for sure that a skylake will be coming out this fall, will that be a big mistake?
Assuming i don't care about graphic card, redesign etc
I have been quite detached from the computing world over the last decade or so, hence appreciate any help/explanation
It seems the AMD R9 M295X is a cheaper than the 980M that everyone seems to be dreaming about.
It will come at no surprise to me that in the next update Apple may introduce the 980M at a higher price point.
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Now my question is if I assume the graphic card to make no difference to me with my basic computing need, will the Skylake a major breakthrough over and above the Haswell used at current max out level i7 4Ghz?
I.e. If i buy a 5K retina imac now, and I know for sure that a skylake will be coming out this fall, will that be a big mistake?
Assuming i don't care about graphic card, redesign etc
I have been quite detached from the computing world over the last decade or so, hence appreciate any help/explanation
Exactly, won't be surprised if Apple will stick to AMD GPUs only the next refresh.
Anybody already figured out what's up with the R9 M290 without the 'X' in the new "cheap" retina iMac ? Lower GPU clock ? Lower clocked GDDR5 memory ? Less stream processors ? A combination of the three ?
Hm, I don't think it's lower clocked memory, but I don't know. I'm guessing less stream processors - they are probably M290X chips that had faulty processors that were disabled, and the card was rebranded as M290.
Hm, perhaps the countdown for the regular iMac has already started. With the exception of the introduction of a new low-end 21" model in 2014, this line has not seen a real update in more than one year and a half. If Apple pushes this year the 21" model into higher resolutions, I think the countdown would be confirmed.
This:
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It started as soon as the Retina model was released.
So can anyone advice on this question
if I assume the graphic card to make no difference to me with my basic computing need, will the Skylake a major breakthrough over and above the Haswell used at current max out level i7 4Ghz?
Would it be like 50% jump in performance with lots of new features with the new chip?
Or would it be an incremental change of around 10% overall improvement?
Thanks
if I assume the graphic card to make no difference to me with my basic computing need, will the Skylake a major breakthrough over and above the Haswell used at current max out level i7 4Ghz?
Would it be like 50% jump in performance with lots of new features with the new chip?
Or would it be an incremental change of around 10% overall improvement?
Thanks
I think we won't see a 50% increase in CPU speed for a long while. Intel is all about power efficiency and small, iterative improvements.
If you assume the graphic card will make no difference to you, than no, a new generation iMac won't be much faster. The only big difference will be the ability to use it in target display mode and use external single-stream 5K screens thanks to DP1.3
So, if you're asking should you buy the iMac now, I'd say the time is as good as any. If you want to wait, there will always be a better option down the road. Just my thoughts, could be wrong.
Skylake probably won't be that huge for the desktop. Massive performance leaps don't happen year over year in computing anymore. It would take a few years of updates before you'd really notice a big change.
Probably October...we are all waiting for Skylake and hopefully nVidia GPU this time
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I'm also dreaming of an affordable 2TB PCI-e SSD in an iMac, but I don't think that will happen this year. Samsung was showing off 3TB last year and they are still vaporware.
It almost certainly won't be Skylake (as quad-core Skylakes are expected in 2016) and most likely won't be Nvidia but AMD M390X or something like that.
skylake will be released in q3
http://wccftech.com/intel-2015-2016...adwell-kseries-q2-broadwelle-arrives-q1-2016/
http://wccftech.com/intel-2015-2016...adwell-kseries-q2-broadwelle-arrives-q1-2016/
Yes, I know that but that's the dual cores and not the high-end quad core models for the iMac. These are coming next year. Just as the Broadwell has been released now, but still no quad cores (that is why the new 15" MBP is still Haswell and not Broadwell). So - no Skylake iMacs this year!
NO, i7 6700K with HT and i5 6600K are 4 core CPUS that will be released in august-september.