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imac G5 waiting now 7-10 bus. days, Is this Normal?
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maya
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LOL, Apple is not going to release a 23" iMac G5 unless the 23" ACD is the low end model without HD support. Look at the past this is quite clear. So NO 23" iMac G5.
Also NO 2.3GHz iMac G5 model, since that will be rev C. 😉 🙂 <-- extending the life of each chip generation is what Apple loves. 🙂
I am interested in the GPU, I could care less if all the specs are the same with only a better GPU and maybe a slight price drop since they have been selling these models like hot cakes when it was introduced. 😉 🙂
Seriously though you will see these upgraded:
1. Processor from 130nm to 90nm (much more silent).
2. HDD at the top end 250Gigs.
3. Faster Optical Drive "±" and 8x.
4. Better GPU...hoping.
5. BlueTooth 2.0, also a given.
This is one of Apples best selling lines as of recent and they want it to remain competitive and making a profit while at it.
Someone mentioned that the SATA HDD was slow, that is because it is mounted in a vertical fashion. More cache would be better to account for the vertical mount. 🙂
Also NO 2.3GHz iMac G5 model, since that will be rev C. 😉 🙂 <-- extending the life of each chip generation is what Apple loves. 🙂
I am interested in the GPU, I could care less if all the specs are the same with only a better GPU and maybe a slight price drop since they have been selling these models like hot cakes when it was introduced. 😉 🙂
Seriously though you will see these upgraded:
1. Processor from 130nm to 90nm (much more silent).
2. HDD at the top end 250Gigs.
3. Faster Optical Drive "±" and 8x.
4. Better GPU...hoping.
5. BlueTooth 2.0, also a given.
This is one of Apples best selling lines as of recent and they want it to remain competitive and making a profit while at it.
Someone mentioned that the SATA HDD was slow, that is because it is mounted in a vertical fashion. More cache would be better to account for the vertical mount. 🙂
maya said:
why does it matter that its mounted in a vertical fashion?? just curious.
also I would he happy with simply a GPU upgrade, but anything else is gravy in my mind.
also, if they do upgrade the iMac, why so long of a wait in upgrading the PowerMac????? very wierd.
trout
If was going to predict a faster Combo Drive (from 24x to 32x) but many people have said the vertical design of the drive makes it unlikely. Any weight to that? Think we'll see 32x and 8x (Super)?maya said:
topgunn
macrumors 68000
maya said:
I don't know about this. By this logic, anything other than perfectly horizontal should experience slower performance. The next best option to perfectly horizontal would be perfectly vertical because it will tend not to wobble at low speeds as it would if it was in between. The iMac is neither perfectly horizontal or vertical which is not an ideal scenario but you have to consider than the eMacs hard drive is mounted at a 30 deg angle (or there about depending on the tilt) and it usually scores very well in disk tests. But I think all of this is moot because the platters are always spinning at sufficient speeds to keep them stable regardless of orientation.
When you say it "degrades performance," does that just mean you're limited on the speed of the drives you can use vertically? i.e. 24x is the max speed for a vertical combo drive?maya said:
zimtheinvader
macrumors regular
This would be very wierd, Apple would have passed over thier Pro lines several times all the while clearly innovating thier "home" line... I guess the PBs were technically updated.... Still, why not something new like a spiffy new gpu interface or ddr2 or something to refresh the PM line? Like the PB update, you know, a modest nod to the powerusers holding off for "next tuesday."
Is it true that the PMG5 2.5DP is having issues though? (firmware/cooling or something?) if so I guess it might still be a tad early to hope for a refresh... 🙁 also, I am sad I thought the liquid-cooling in the 2.5DP meant total silence...!
(I love how macs are actually totally silent when asleep though! never knew this wasn't true of all computers..)
Is it true that the PMG5 2.5DP is having issues though? (firmware/cooling or something?) if so I guess it might still be a tad early to hope for a refresh... 🙁 also, I am sad I thought the liquid-cooling in the 2.5DP meant total silence...!
(I love how macs are actually totally silent when asleep though! never knew this wasn't true of all computers..)
maya
macrumors 68040
SteveC said:
Several factors:
Data Error Rate increases during writing, laser head misalignment (had this happen a couple time to me), etc...
You can reduce the risk with "buffer under-run" turned ON, however I have had a few coaster even with it turned ON. I have also had discs that I insert at first will not read, then I eject it and then it seems fine, basically its a laser head misalignment.
When a CD or DVD is being written to you also tend to get excessive noise, etc.. 🙂
zimtheinvader said:
There aren't any issues that I know of. The firmware was updated months ago to fix that and the cooling issue was the whole reason for the liquid cooling. Otherwise, it seems to be running strong, and on a same day delivery schedule. So IBM AT LEAST has a good supply of the 2.5's now. Don't know if they have anything faster.
Either way, I agree with you. I almost feel betrayed that the PMs are nearly 3 months overdue for an upgrade while the iMacs may be getting a month early update.
BTW, just noticed that the buyer's guide has been updated. PowerMacs are no longer listed as "Don't Buy, updates soon" and are now "Buy if you need it, approaching end of cycle." Then there's a caveat saying:
"While it's technically been a long time since a PowerMac release... remember the last PowerMacs that were released had a very long (3 month) delay before shipment. So we will probably have to wait longer than normal for the next PowerMac release."
How well are your 1.8GHz PMs (single or dual) going to sell if you have a 2GHz iMac? Aren't the PM sales already in the toilet right now?
You sound convinced that the iMac is definitely getting updated in the next week or two... That's good news for anyone waiting to buy.
I admit it's kind of surprising that it happened "all of a sudden" like this. I wasn't expecting updates for another month or two (or more).
But it looks like it's safe to say they're getting updated huh?
I admit it's kind of surprising that it happened "all of a sudden" like this. I wasn't expecting updates for another month or two (or more).
But it looks like it's safe to say they're getting updated huh?
Umm, update at 10:24 PM ET 😛
The Estimated Ship on all three iMacs is now 3-5 business days.
What does this mean? Was the 7-10 biz days REALLY an iMac component availability-related delay, or are updates still going to happen?
The Estimated Ship on all three iMacs is now 3-5 business days.
What does this mean? Was the 7-10 biz days REALLY an iMac component availability-related delay, or are updates still going to happen?
Another aspect to keep in mind when there are updates are the price drops on the closeout models. It's one of the few times you can do some real bargain hunting for new Macs. I know I'd be quite interested in the current 17" 1.8/SuperDrive model if it were marked down to $1,299 or even less for example. I picked up a new/sealed PowerBook that way once and saved several hundred dollars off what the newly released models were priced at.
SteveC said:
Well, there is no way to know for sure of course. It could mean that new ones are coming early next week (3-5 business days would take us to the end of next week), or it could be it was just a simple component shortage.
SteveC said:
What makes me curious is this, from AppleInsider:
"Several tipsters are reporting that, like the iPod mini, iMacs are suddenly reflecting wait times of 7-10 business days for direct orders from the Apple online store. iMacs had previously shown "same business day" ship estimates. While the iPod mini is expected to see an update as early as next week, there is no evidence yet to support an imminent revision to the iMac G5 product line. However, sources close to the company claim that the flow of G5 microprocessors from IBM has improved significantly over the past few months. Apple, at its discresion, could improve on the iMac's performance anytime, sources said. The iMac continues to be a hot seller in February, and such a move would aim to preserve the iMacs momentum, sources added. A 2GHz iMac has been stable for some time. "Meanwhile, reports from inside the company hint that a significant announcement will be made on or around Wednesday of next week"
Same here. 🙂 I almost bought one a few weeks ago but I exercised MUCH discipline and I thought: "As soon as I order it, they'll release the rev B." I'm hoping it won't be long until I'll be happily ordering now.mox358 said:
Apple releasing slightly bumped iMacs is not going to make your Mac any "older." It's the PASSING OF TIME that makes *everything* older. 😉sjpetry said:
Don't worry about it. Be glad that Apple is moving faster with updates so you won't have to wait so long next time you want a new one. 🙂
mrgreen4242
macrumors 601
Ug, I just bought one WEDNESDAY... While I will get price matching I am sure, if there is a new GPU I will be very upset... any way for me to trade up, so to speak? I did end up with one of these crazy loud iMacs, it would seem... maybe I can leverage that.
Rob
Rob
Dont Hurt Me
macrumors 603
Fx5200 is from G4 imac days. I was suprised they stayed with it so long but i think its a driver thing. Apple has to make its drivers for nvidia i think so this is a case of them milking it for all they can. Notice the only other Nvidia product is the 6800UT and we heard they were using a modified fx5200 driver...Think about it. Only reason apple went to a 6800UT was thee wasnt anything else to drive its 30" They need to break down and spend a little on new GPUs and drivers. I loved my Mini but the 9200 kills the newer titles. The G4 can handle it but the 9200 cant and a 5200 isnt much better. My same old rant.QCassidy352 said: