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Wish I read this cautionary tale before today, having recently 'lost' 1000s of half-decent photos upon the HD failure on my 20" G4 iMac (2003-4?).

I guess 6-7 years is pretty good going, but what an idiot not to back-up. Luckily, the very best of my current 3 yrs relationship/marriage are lying around posted here and there including undeleted emails to families/friends.

Do I want to salvage the 'hidden' photos of previous travels and relationships?

Possibly not. I'll get a quote and consider my position. ;)
 
crapaudblanc (Opening Poster).

I read your opening post. When pointing fingers at Apple and their "unstable" internal hard drives, please remember that Apple doesn't make their own Hard Drives. They buy drives off HD specialty makers and install within their boxes. Remember the "Apple" HD didn't blow. It was actually Wester Digital, or Seagate or ??? Say what???? Let's say you're driving your BMW down the road and the tire blows up. Do you blame BMW (or the maker of the vehicle), or do your blame Good Year (the maker of the tire)? If one is going to point the finger blame, do point at the proper company. re: The tire maker - NOT the vehicle maker.

If wondering, I've had several HDD failures. My recent Win XP box was "chugging away" and it started acting like it had a very bad virus. re: Stalls, chugs and putters. Within 2 minutes, complete HDD "lock up". Pulled that data drive, put into another computer (as a slave drive) and it was confirmed. The 2nd HDD in that Win XP box simply blew. And yes, HDs (of any maker) can blow. Just like any brand of tire on a vehicle can blow as well...

Luckily, data backups (using external HDDs) are so very affordable these days. External 1 TB @ 2.5" vis USB port for under $150. Or, external 500 GB HD for one's most critical data files for under $80 is great price as well. External and "automatic" backups - sounds like a very affordable backup system to me. To me, backups are mandatory - just like a mouse and keyboard. I learned that many times over as well...

Good luck in your future system (Win xx or MAC - which ever system you pick next)...

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IMac HDD deaths

Ok folks, my first ever post here, so bear with me :)

Here are my personal experiences with hdd's that die in an iMac. I hope some of the info I gathered during these issues might be useful for others, so here goes:

My Imac ate hdd's too. After the third hdd died (and I initially spent money on pricey repairs -after some dumb discussions at a local Apple reseller here, denying to give me decent service-), I decided to open up my silver friend myself.

Although the Apple reseller had tried to frighten me with all kinds of doom-scenarios, like: "you shouldn't open it up yourself: the glass plate or its plastic connectors will probably break", "you can only open it up in a special dust free environment" and more bs like that, it was a piece of cake and only took me about 30 minutes to replace the hdd myself.

The glass in front of the screen is -quite brilliantly- connected with magnets and can be removed easily with a suction cup. The rest is pretty straightforward, as long as you are careful and take it easy (Youtube has some great videos on it as a guide). Some experience repairing systems of course helps.

After opening the machine up it seemed the official Apple Service provider that performed the previous repairs to my iMac (both in and outside warranty), did a pretty lousy job. The thermostat that's originally connected to the hdd (for the 2008 aluminum iMac's; apparently that was changed in the 2009 series) with a piece of spongy material that's adhesive on one side, was barely hanging on there with a tiny piece of transparent adhesive tape, preventing the thermostat itself from making direct contact with the hdd's heat sink…

After sticking the new hdd in, connecting the thermostat properly, cleaning the system out a bit and putting it back together again; all worked smoothly. Formatted the hdd, restored a TimeMachine backup, updated…etc..

Then I installed the free application called SMCFanControl to be able to monitor the hdd temperature, since I felt my iMac eating hdd's might have something to do with the hdd temperature. Now I am not an expert, but judging from information available here and there it seemed hdd's just don't like temperatures above 42 degrees Celsius more or less. Can't blame em: a hot summer with temperatures above that wears me out too…

When my iMac was running again I noticed the hdd temperature went over 50 fast, when using certain software. Although Photoshop for instance didn't increase the heat terribly, SecondLife did. I messed around with the different fanspeeds in SMCFanControl (for HDD and ODD mostly); it still seemed hard to make it run cool (mind you: room temperature of about 16 degrees only: no heat emitting objects near). I decided to run SecondLife app and it's disk-cache from a USB stick to prevent continuous hdd usage (I know: shouldn't be this way). This, in combination with increasing the fan speeds with SMCFanControl did the trick: and the hdd temperature was well within bandwidth.

When timemachine makes a full backup, I have to switch the fan speeds to maximum to keep the hdd temperature at about 39 degrees.

I also noticed my machine does check the temperature correctly for it's fans, but there is no significant audible increase in fanspeeds when the temperature increases (any feedback from you guys on this would be very welcome).

So far, so good, system is running and keeps running normally now. I really believe the iMac hdd issue has something to do with the temperature the hdd reaches, especially with heavy users, possibly due to the thermostat's operation, fan speeds with certain temperatures, differences in heat sinks of different types of hdd's (where the 08's model's thermostat is stuck onto) and possibly even the very compact way an iMac is designed in (disabling the system from getting rid of heat efficiently).

I will keep this forum updated if something happens…

Best regards and good luck :)
 
I hope that I don't have any such issues with the temperature monitors on my drive. I can pretty much build a Windows PC, but swapping out a MacBook drive is as deep as I want to delve when it comes to Apple hardware (no removing LCD screens in my future, thanks).

I'm planning on taking a more aggressive look at cooling on my iMac after its second hard drive failure (due to issues with the Time Machine backup, we actually lost some recent photos, which made it very annoying... coupled with the fact that our new iLife disc seemingly vanished into thin air and this all happened just as we were starting to produce photo books for relatives at Christmas, it was probably one of the most annoying computing failures I've had, period.)

I have SMCfancontrol on my machine, but I've never regularly run it (only to ensure fans were going for Boot Camp before my first HD crashed).
 
I hope that I don't have any such issues with the temperature monitors on my drive. I can pretty much build a Windows PC, but swapping out a MacBook drive is as deep as I want to delve when it comes to Apple hardware (no removing LCD screens in my future, thanks).....

Hi Jamsandwich! :)

That indeed is a highly annoying failure right there :(

Although I was seriously apprehensive swapping the hdd and removing the LCD for it (especially after the fear mongering by the nitwits at the local Apple reseller...), it was seriously easy. Especially since the build of the iMac is very well engineered and everything fits perfectly when closing it up again. But then again, maybe I was just damn lucky...

I'd love to hear any possible solutions to cool the iMac in a more aggressive fashion. Maybe we should get out the tools and find an old fridge haha :)
 
...and there it is in a nutshell folks!

Well said!

It can happen at any time... My grandfather had a drive failure in his iMac when it was about 3 years old, however, the drive has just failed in my iMac which is less than three months old! :(

Yet I had a MacBook Pro for about 18 months which was moved about almost everyday and the drive was as perfect from the day I bought it to the day I sold it.

:apple:
 
Well said!

It can happen at any time... My grandfather had a drive failure in his iMac when it was about 3 years old, however, the drive has just failed in my iMac which is less than three months old! :(

Yet I had a MacBook Pro for about 18 months which was moved about almost everyday and the drive was as perfect from the day I bought it to the day I sold it.

:apple:

I have a hard drive from my very old iMac that STILL works (from 2001!!) I also have numerous hard drives, both 2.5" and 3.5" that are much younger, with far better spec, and they're all in a pile and all non-working... the bottom line is they're sensitive electro-mechanical devices prone to failure regardless of the type or brand of computer they're installed into....
 
I have a hard drive from my very old iMac that STILL works (from 2001!!) I also have numerous hard drives, both 2.5" and 3.5" that are much younger, with far better spec, and they're all in a pile and all non-working... the bottom line is they're sensitive electro-mechanical devices prone to failure regardless of the type or brand of computer they're installed into....

Saying that, the HDD in my 2006 iMac is still going strong actually! :)
 
It's amazing how much variability there is in the lifetime of HDs. I have a 1987 Mac SE FDHD with the original 20 MB 3.5" drive that works like a champ!
 
I have a 2014 iMac 27in (maxed out configuration) and it eats hard drives too. The problem is the extremely poor design of the iMac chassis and the complete disregard for cooling the system so that it looks "cool". I've replaced the drive 3 times, so now I'm going to gerry-rig a cooling solution of my own and also install a 100% SSD drive. I'll try a heat pipe and drill a hole in the chassis, if I have to (It's long out of warranty and a lot of people are avoiding these models for their drive killing problem).
My iMac before (I think it was a 2009-2010 iMac 24in) burned out the onboard video chip as well as the crappy Maxtor drive (really Apple? lowest quality hdd on the market in a $3K machine? - shame!) - also because of stupid thermal engineering (apparently, this is also quite common), so I sold it for parts (screen still good).
 
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