There's an old saying: "Content is king."
If Apple won't supply the tools to create content for their ecosystem, it opens a huge window of opportunity for the competition to woo creators into producing content for competing ecosystems...
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iMac Pro Available to Order December 14, Starting at $4,999
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There's an old saying: "Content is king."
If Apple won't supply the tools to create content for their ecosystem, it opens a huge window of opportunity for the competition to woo creators into producing content for competing ecosystems...
I'll go out on a limb and say there won't be lineup around the block for this. 
One good thing is the performance differential between this and the top of the line iMac. There is no grey area. If you need computational power for programming and 3d work...get this. Otherwise, 2D graphic stuff is easily handled by the iMac non-pro.
With respect to expandability...I'm sure this was done on purpose. Otherwise, the new upcoming modular Mac Pro would be pointless.
One good thing is the performance differential between this and the top of the line iMac. There is no grey area. If you need computational power for programming and 3d work...get this. Otherwise, 2D graphic stuff is easily handled by the iMac non-pro.
With respect to expandability...I'm sure this was done on purpose. Otherwise, the new upcoming modular Mac Pro would be pointless.
Sigh. I knew that a front-page thread would bring all of the trolls out from under the bridge. Page after page of worthless comments with not much opportunity for meaningful conversation. Sometimes I think that people lurk MacRumors just waiting to hop as quickly as they can on a thread just to try and practice their (horrible) stand-up routine.
For those of you that only need a MacBook Air or an iPad for your daily routine, yes, this is not the machine for you. But for those of us who's daily duties and bank account rely on utilizing equipment such as this, this matters, a lot. The iMac Pro will be a great option for some and the upcoming new Mac Pro will a great option for those not wanting an AIO design. But for the multitude of doubters that are injecting themselves into this thread, yes, there are those of us out here that need desktops like this and yes, we are more than willing to spend $5K-$10K for the benefits they bring.
For those of you that only need a MacBook Air or an iPad for your daily routine, yes, this is not the machine for you. But for those of us who's daily duties and bank account rely on utilizing equipment such as this, this matters, a lot. The iMac Pro will be a great option for some and the upcoming new Mac Pro will a great option for those not wanting an AIO design. But for the multitude of doubters that are injecting themselves into this thread, yes, there are those of us out here that need desktops like this and yes, we are more than willing to spend $5K-$10K for the benefits they bring.
But but.. Google is evil. Why should I use Chrome which tracks all my activities and sells my data to make money. So that means no 4K youtube for me on this beast!
I really hope someone gets one to barefeats , love their analysis.
base iMac pro is only a $1500/1600 up charge from an "equivalent" iMac, meaning 32g memory 1tb ssd, cannot even compare the processor or video options so I don't think it is that expensive at the entry.
I just want to know what the 16g video card will cost
base iMac pro is only a $1500/1600 up charge from an "equivalent" iMac, meaning 32g memory 1tb ssd, cannot even compare the processor or video options so I don't think it is that expensive at the entry.
I just want to know what the 16g video card will cost
Assuming you're not being facetious, I don't trust anything what you said in your Post or has any relation whatsoever to the iMac Pro. Nor is it even relevant in your comparison.
Ah, but the reality is that the "Tinkerers" are the real PROS. Those are the guys who figure out every tiny aspect of the system, they are the ones who come up with solutions. They post tutorials online to explain how things work or can be fixed, they create new parts for expansion and they keep the system alive well past its expiration date. Thats a PRO. You think becuase you sit in an office and code on it that you are the pro? Nope.
People need a reality check on what the word PRO really means.
The PROS or "Tinkerers" are the ones who won't buy this imac. They are the ones wanting a modular mac and if apple comes out with one finally they will buy them in masses and they will put them to the max usage.
Heck, I could argue that a gamer is more of a pro than any coder as far as maxing out the system is concerned and those gamers ain't buying iMacs, they want to upgrade that vid card every 6 months.
Well I'm buying one (probably 10 or 14 core). My old 12-core cheesegrater Mac Pro can sit under the desk on rendering duties, and my 27-inch Apple display will be great as a second monitor (or I could just sell it). I use my Mac every day and I think this will do do just fine until we know exactly what the new Mac Pro is actually going to be. And for all those people who say this isn't a pro machine? Good news, I'm not a pro user! Perfect.
Actually, pro is a term used to define someone who makes a living from doing X, Y or Z.
I'm a professional videographer. It's my only job. I have no interest in taking my machine apart, though I did with my 2011 MacBook Pro to get it to last until now. Since doing so, I've had more intermittent issues with restarts since adding 3rd party RAM and SSD into it...
We pay for Apple because everything works and is compatible. Meanwhile, my other friend bought a Threadripper and he's had weeks or problems with the motherboard and RAM and compatability issues.
Both of us are pros, but both of us work in different ways. Stop trying to pigeon-hole pros as being one thing or another. We're all just trying to make a living in the best way possible.
This iMac Pro is the answer for me. I'll lay down a lot of cash to begin with, but in time, this should be a great investment that saves me lots of time. The fact that FCPX is so fast to begin with just makes this investment THAT much better.
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Are you going to wait for the 14 core? Only 8 and 10 cores are available on Thursday.
You are missing the point and also adding to the problem. Nobody takes the machine apart. It's next year when they come out with a video card that is 5 times faster than the one you have now and with an imac you get to cry about your losses while the guys who get the mac pro can just slip the new one in there and keep rocking. They ended up saving money and you ended up losing big time. If you are a real pro then you care about your bottom line which it doesn't sound like you do if you keep buying $5000 disposable computers. There can never be a pro imac, its a joke.
to be fair, a lot of long time Apple users have been hating on them for a while ... for very good reasons, might I add. IMHO, "people with different opinions than me" might be a better term to use. just sayin'
Apple does offer On-Site service via Enterprise AppleCare. Also, the majority of these machines will likely be going into sites that have on-site technical support staff to service them under warranty.
The RAM is socketed so you can, but you'll need to remove the screen and logic-board to do it. For a major installation with on-site staff, not a major headache. For everyone else, it will push them to buy the amount of RAM they think they will eventually need rather than what they currently need and that will be expensive, I am sure.
You're missing my point and a tonne of other pro user's points.
Will a video card really be 5X faster by next year? Really? I didn't realise that GPUs were advancing at such breakneck speeds. It seems to me like the 1080Ti is still revered, and yet I believe that's over a year old? So it's not like people are complaining there... and that's just the gamers.
LOL at buying a new GPU every year results in me losing my money? How do you figure that when I'd be spending money every year?
You fail to see that my cameras have operated using 100mb/s file footage since 5 years ago. Even with the upgrade to 4K, I still use the same 100mb/s codec.
In a year's time, I'll still be using it.
In two years' time, I'll still be using it.
I'm willing to bet that in 3-4 years' time, I'll still be using it.
Therefore, in light of this, you can see that I will still have the same, super-powerful, perfectly-supported iMac Pro to run FCPX with then as I will once it's delivered.
The only time I'll upgrade my codec is if/when the time comes to move to HDR, but the workflow for HDR is extremely complex and isn't something that's likely to happen within my business or even in my industry any time soon.
This current iMac Pro is also running 8K footage natively, so I have room to grow further down the line as well. The iMac Pro also means that I can take on about 5-10 extra jobs for next year, as my editing speed will be that much faster than it is today.
Therefore, I think I'll be perfectly happy with my purchase, and for people like you, you will be perfectly happy next year as you can save money buying a new GPU every year for your new modular Mac Pro.
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when Apple stated the other Mac Pro would be modular they never implied that this was for the user to enable them to upgrade but instead of Apple to be able to more quickly upgrade as new parts come out
when Apple stated the other Mac Pro would be modular they never implied that this was for the user to enable them to upgrade but instead of Apple to be able to more quickly upgrade as new parts come out
People making proper 4K content also have properly calibrated 4K monitors. Considering my full screen previewed wouldn’t be on the iMac display anyway I would rather have the 5K screen real-estate and a separate broadcast monitor for proper 4K.
Anybody who would buy this has never owned an imac period. I am the mac guy in my crowd and everyone brings them to me for repair. I had at one point 5 imacs sitting in my office storage closet waiting for the trash. Why? Nightmare. Anything goes wrong on it, anything besides the HD, you need a new motherboard. Know how much apple charges for a new motherboard for a 6yr old imac, nothing, they don't sell them anymore but they were $900 right before being discontinued due to EOL. That motherboard used on ebay, $475 all day long. The computer is only worth $400 so what's the point, you might as well throw it away and buy another used one for less. That is the whole problem here. The USB ports went out on the last one I had to deal with. No usb ports, no way to get into the system. Useless. New motherboard.
So the question is, do your really want to put all your eggs in one huge expensive basket? I am a pro user and I will wait for a modular system or go pc until it happens. Still using 12 core 2012 mac pros and they have been a delight.
So the question is, do your really want to put all your eggs in one huge expensive basket? I am a pro user and I will wait for a modular system or go pc until it happens. Still using 12 core 2012 mac pros and they have been a delight.
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^THIS a million times over. The minute you actually expect a machine with the word "Pro" on it to function like one the hipster coffee shop "I have a Pro so I can look like I spent more money" crowd acts like you are a #HashtagOfTheWeek and aren't interested in successful Apple products. Machines for actual "Professional" computing are not the same as your Macbook you use to publish your blog.
Even if it hasn't have QuickSync or something equivalent, it has more than enough horsepower to compensate for that.
And the DJI codec is weird, i have no issues playing back 4k from different DSLRs and from a Sony FS7, but with clips from DJI drones everything comes to a halt. Is the only reason I need to create proxies.
Thanks for sharing this, e1me5! This may mean that GH5 files will be even better on the iMac Pro than what Vincent experienced - that's brilliant!
The Mac Pros were slower than the current iMacs for H264 codec clips. Therefore, I figured it was likely to be a tiny difference between the iMac and iMac Pro unless there was some form of QuickSync onboard.
Looks like it's even more rapid than I expected it to be with the limited information that's out there for it.
I'll be ordering one on Thursday. I'm just hoping that I can afford the one that I want.
That's great to hear!! It will be a great investment for the years to come!
Wishing you the best!!!