A lot of people. Especially pro users. What’s the beef with adding one? Not like you’ll see it often!
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'iMac Pro' Coming in 2022 With M1 Pro/Max Chips, 27-Inch Mini-LED Display, MacBook Pro Ports and More
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Seriously? Can you provide a link to that $100K maxed out Dell?
depends on what a bomb costs.
I think they will do to it what they did to the MBP. $2400 type entry pricepoint. And then you can spec it out with the fastest Max chips with more ram for ~$1k more.
I'd guess they will still make a Mac Pro too though. The design is pretty new so I think they would continue it.
Relax, nowhere in his tweet did he say 27", that was either a typo in MacRumors's headline, or they jumped to conclusions. Of course it won't be 27".
This guy is a genuine soothsayer. Pure genius. None of us could possibly have guessed those specs.
Makes a lot of sense, and I like to see Steve’s four-quadrant chart being used again.
I bet soon the lineup will be:
Notebooks: MacBook ( replacing the Air and the 13” pro) and MacBook Pro
Desktop AIOs: iMac and iMac Pro
Desktop: Mac and Mac Pro
All consumer products might use the M1 ( as they already do) and the pro ones M1 Pro and Max in various configurations as we saw in the latest MacBook Pro release.
I bet soon the lineup will be:
Notebooks: MacBook ( replacing the Air and the 13” pro) and MacBook Pro
Desktop AIOs: iMac and iMac Pro
Desktop: Mac and Mac Pro
All consumer products might use the M1 ( as they already do) and the pro ones M1 Pro and Max in various configurations as we saw in the latest MacBook Pro release.
The Mac Mini got cheaper.
I think everything else has been the same price as the nearest Intel equivalent, except for the 14" MBP vs. the "4 port" 13" MBP which has gone up... but it now has the same processors as the new 16" whereas there used to be a big jump.
If we're talking about $1999 starting price for the M1 Pro "5k replacement" and that comes with 16GB/512GB - that's the same as the current 8GB/512GB model, you've lost the option of the current $1799 one (only 256GB SSD and a slightly slower CPU) but you're gaining $300 worth of SSD and RAM (...because with the M1 we've all got to stop worrying and learn to love Apple's upgrade prices... a more cynical person might say that it probably means that the chips for a 256GB SSD and 8GB of LPDDR5 RAM have now become more expensive, wholesale, than the larger ones because nobody else buys such piddlingly small chips)
I might paint my bezels white, just to annoy the fashionistas.
But since the iMac would never leave my office, the fashionistas would never see it.
Drat.
Supply chain issues is my guess. Secondly it’s
Oh no, why does my 2130 iMac only have a 200 inch screen. Does Apple think we are still in 2110 or something?
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Some people are never satisfied.
You could have waited. We all knew the 24 was the entry level machine and the pro machines are coming.
Unless you needed a faster iMac ASAP, then it was not a wasted purchase.
You can go well over $100k with a Dell workstation tower (the screenshot below shows one for nearly $300k). But, in fairness, this is a pure pro machine that is in the same class as the Mac Pro, so it wouldn't be reasonable to use its pricing as a point of comparison to that of the future iMac Pro/Max, which sounds like it will be a prosumer device.
A more reasonable comparator to the future iMac Pro/Max is the Dell Optiplex 7780 27" AOI. Maxed out with core i9-10900/64 GB RAM/2 x 2 TB SSDs/GTX 1650, it's $4,400. And that's with a 1080p display. [maxed-out OptiPlex 7780]. A current 64 GB/4 TB 27" Intel iMac with a Radeon Pro 5500 XT is about the same price ($4,500), and that's with a 5k display and a somewhat better GPU (FWIW, the Geekbench scores of the Radeon Pro 5500 XT and GTX 1650 are 43410 and 38734, respectively).
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I would assume it’s more about having a release schedule that ensures there are constant new machines being released so Apple are continuously in the news.
I would love the same 24" colors to be applied to the 27" model. And I'm also sick of people complaining about those colors, that it's not professional... There is the silver model for that. Oh wait, then people can't go past white bezels. It's not like white has been apple trademark color for many years. Sure the previous combination of black bezels with white keys was absolutely exquisite...
Even if the keys and the bezels are black (what the indicators are saying) I'd definitely go with a yellow version (the old 12" gold/black MacBook was a real beauty). But I don't think we'll have more than the two grey shades with everything else black...
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No different to M1 vs M1 Pro/Max for single thread performance???
I read that is the case. How true is that?
What Apple likes more than "being in the news" is having new products for people to buy during the holiday quarter.
Apple makes news no matter what they do, I highly doubt that's a major concern.
I feel that model is going the way of the dodo. Just like Dgpus will one day too.
The performance gains Apple had made going all unified on one SoC is massive. Just look at what we have now. Outside a few hardcore edge cases, people are actually finding it hard to max out their M1Max. Even Anandtech noted that not many workflows exist today that will max out what the M1Max has.
By the time such workflows exist, we will have M2Max or M5Max or whatever the current generation is at the time.
Eventually we will get to a point where it’s just the same thing, just more/faster cores for the pros. Of cause ads in the ports SSD space and RAM that pros need.
At their core the base cpu and gpu compute units will be based on the same thing.
We need to realise that M series is not like the old days of notebook vs desktop components. Apple silicon is all about giving everyone the same crazy good technology just in different configurations / packages to suit all the different kinds of users out there - casual / prosumer / pro.
Crazy high end bleeding edge is the exception and they are not looking for a Mac anyway. They are in the supercomputer league. Universities, research laboratories etc etc.
That only applies to multi-core speeds. You'll still notice limitations due to single-core speeds, because most programs are still single-threaded, and you're going to continue to experience wait times on even the fastest of current chips with those programs. Thus there continues to be a need for faster single-core speeds (or for single-core programs to transition to multi-core; but parallelizing complex programs is very difficult, so that's not going to happen anytime soon).
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FaceID would be really nice here unless Apple creates a standalone TouchID unit. Their keyboards are okay but not good enough to replace any number of really nice units.
No TouchID on my iMac is kind of annoying. It’s the main thing I miss from my laptop.
I think it’s gonna be this or the “Pro” mini as my next machine.
No TouchID on my iMac is kind of annoying. It’s the main thing I miss from my laptop.
I think it’s gonna be this or the “Pro” mini as my next machine.