The screen size I was referring to is used for the Pro Display XDR and is gorgeous, so it's not some weird resolution and size. And there are numerous 32" 4K monitors.
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'iMac Pro' Coming in 2022 With M1 Pro/Max Chips, 27-Inch Mini-LED Display, MacBook Pro Ports and More
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If they supply a 27" Liquid Retina XDR displays that should look beautiful compared to the new MBPs.
2 grands doesnt "cost a bomb " imo .but then i doubt itll come at such price
It's a small company. You can't expect them to have the personnel to work on more than one desktop machine at a time.
[Obviously I agree with you.]
Makes sense given the same usage in their other products. I figured this would come back once the original iMac Pro was discontinued.
On the other hand, they could instead call it “iMac Meta”! Of course, doing so would start World War Z.
On the other hand, they could instead call it “iMac Meta”! Of course, doing so would start World War Z.
What a bull. The new M1 Max laptops can already connect with two of the Pro Display XDR which are 32" 6K. For that they use a single Thunderbolt 3 cable for each monitor.
This is from the specs on Apple.com: "Up to two external displays with up to 6K resolution at 60Hz at over a billion colors (M1 Pro)"
The rumor says it's going to use M1 Pro/Max chips, but I'd find it disappointing if they limited their desktop machine to the same processing power as their mobile devices, rather than taking advantage of the more ample thermals, and higher power, a desktop unit affords. At the very least, if they're going to use the same chips, I would hope they would clock them higher.
I was also hoping we'd see something bigger than 27".
I was also hoping we'd see something bigger than 27".
If you max out the specs on a decent computer, of course you go to high prices. You can max a Dell to 100.000 USD. Just, get a huge SSD's and all the memory.
In the iMac example its a comparison of a much larger all-in-one. Just not a mobile solution to the consumer.
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Look at current iMac 27" pricing. Base: $1799. Next starter tier: $1999.
Correct me if I'm wrong but has any of the new Silicon Macs dropped in prices vs. the Intel versions they replace?
Base 16" MBpro: $2499.
Since Apple has the 24" to hit some price points below $2K, my guess would be iMac base $2499, just like that MBpro.
However, there is rumor of M2... and M2 being > M1 but not quite PRO & MAX. So maybe M2 iMac (bigger) MIGHT be able to be priced at "da bomb" target of $1999 with relatively weak amounts of RAM & STORAGE. That would get Apple a "Starting at $1999" wave of spin with the reality average price of what ships probably up into $2600-$3600 range when people add what may seem at least essential amounts of RAM and STORAGE.
To the other question of MAXED pricing? I'd probably just use 16" MBpro MAX pricing as a starter: $6099 then add for a much bigger screen.
And an Apple stand.
Wild guess: $9,999 but that probably puts something else in there of tangible consequence: 2 8TB SSDs? 2 MAX SOCs? A "Weird Science" model that will pop out of the screen and adore the ground you walk upon? 10 Apple Cloths with at least one touched by an Apple Executive?
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Amen. If Apple really wants to show us how environmentally responsible they are, they can start right here. Imagine the number of iMacs we can save from landfill by allowing users to repurpose them as a display.
I know I am in the minority on this, but I kinda like the chins and I definitely prefer to not have only black bezels. I am sick of black colored electronics. SICK. I have no problem if black or other dark colors are available as options, but please PLEASE give us options for colors too.
I’ve been wanting this both for the stand-alone trackpad and for MacBook trackpads
Actually, a single TB4 output would have no problem driving a 120 Hz 6k 10 bit display, which requires a bandwidth of 60.14 Gbps (without compression).
That's because any output advertised as TB4 is required to support DisplayPort Alt Mode 2.0. TB4 offers 40 Gbps full duplex bandwidth. With DisplayPort Alt Mode 2.0, you can take that duplex bandwidth, and use all eight channels for single-direction communication (which is a pretty cool feature). If you do this, you can output 2 x 40 Gbps = 80 Gbps.
This gives TB4 significantly higher bandwidth than HDMI 2.1, which is limited to 48 Gbps unidrectionally (HDMI 2.1 does have some duplexing capability, but it is limited to a 100 Mbps duplex ethernet side-channel, and an audio return channel).
Thunderbolt (interface) - Wikipedia
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In reality, where people don't spend $1300 on a screen but a fraction of that. I can get a 4K monitor for $250.
By that logic, we don't need laptops any more either.
yeah but at 24" what's the point?
I'd rather have a 4K monitor at 34" but super expensive.
What I’m finding intriguing to think about is by looking at Apples own timeline for the completely rollout of Silicon across its entire Mac range, they say it will be complete by WWDC in June 2022… Now the pandemic might have slowed that down somewhat and chip shortages might also have slowed that down, because that would mean we have to get a large M series iMac, perhaps an M series iMac Pro and M series Mac Pro by June… and some folk seem to think the Mac Mini will be updated in that time as well, which I can’t see happening…
But heres the thing to think about… say apple released a Mac Mini with a M1 Pro or Max, then where do they go with the Mac Pro? Unless there is another M series chip that is going to be insanely powerful, why would Apple put M1 Pro or Max in an Mac Mini… That leaves the larger iMac and iMac Pro… Lets not forget that the iMac Pro was a stop gap machine to appease pro users because the Mac Pro hadn’t been updated since the trashcan, Apple might not be so keen to reintroduce those pro users with another iMAc Pro, they may want to steer them to the M series Mac Pro instead.
I really want to see what Apple do with a Silicon Mac Pro, it has to be an escalation in CPU, RAM and GPU, a Mac Pro with a M1 Max isn’t going to do it…
My prediction, the Mac Mini remians unchanged, there will be lowered end 27” iMac with M1 and higher end 30” iMac with M1 Pro and Max. There will be no M series iMac Pro. That leaves the Mac Pro, which could be released a WWDC and needs to be something different again, so the all new M2, M2 Pro, M2 Max or whatever it’ll be… The new Mac Pro has to blow the current top end Mac Pro into the weeds and a M1 Max Mac Pro won’t do that…
Lastly, I need a new desktop machine, it needs to be a beast… Once the M1 Max iMac comes out, it’s going to be hard to not buy one to replace my 2015 27” iMac… but I have this feeling that waiting for the silicon Mac Pro to be released is going to be worth the pain….
But heres the thing to think about… say apple released a Mac Mini with a M1 Pro or Max, then where do they go with the Mac Pro? Unless there is another M series chip that is going to be insanely powerful, why would Apple put M1 Pro or Max in an Mac Mini… That leaves the larger iMac and iMac Pro… Lets not forget that the iMac Pro was a stop gap machine to appease pro users because the Mac Pro hadn’t been updated since the trashcan, Apple might not be so keen to reintroduce those pro users with another iMAc Pro, they may want to steer them to the M series Mac Pro instead.
I really want to see what Apple do with a Silicon Mac Pro, it has to be an escalation in CPU, RAM and GPU, a Mac Pro with a M1 Max isn’t going to do it…
My prediction, the Mac Mini remians unchanged, there will be lowered end 27” iMac with M1 and higher end 30” iMac with M1 Pro and Max. There will be no M series iMac Pro. That leaves the Mac Pro, which could be released a WWDC and needs to be something different again, so the all new M2, M2 Pro, M2 Max or whatever it’ll be… The new Mac Pro has to blow the current top end Mac Pro into the weeds and a M1 Max Mac Pro won’t do that…
Lastly, I need a new desktop machine, it needs to be a beast… Once the M1 Max iMac comes out, it’s going to be hard to not buy one to replace my 2015 27” iMac… but I have this feeling that waiting for the silicon Mac Pro to be released is going to be worth the pain….
HobeSoundDarryl
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Because?
Note that the Pro Screen above it and the iMac 24" below it are not notched. I am not convinced that Apple notched MBpro as some kind of front-side shot at "iconic," even if that's one of the reasons that's been thrown around the last few days. If they want iconic, be sure the Apple logo is visible on the chin on the front side. Apple logo is definitely Apple. Notch is in play by Apple and many copycats.
And unlike what I think is the one rational argument for a notch on MBpro, iMac (bigger) doesn't have to be as thin as the lid of a MBpro... and iMac 24 already fits a 1080p FaceTime camera into a very thin, notchless-bezel.
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Higher density?
4K text on a 34-inch display will look worse than on a 24-inch display. At that size, you would want 6K or more, and, yep, that becomes quite pricey.
In any case, the point is that HDMI continues to be extremely important to business users, and I expect a "Pro" Mac to cater to those.
Well, after eleven pages of comments we know one thing with absolute confidence. Whatever the new iMac is it will be trashed mercilessly here. But take heart, we also know whatever tech blog comment sections pontificate it means precisely nothing in terms of the real market and the new iMac’s success.
27" highly doubtful calling into question much of other "claims" made. 32"more likely since existing discontinued MacPro models were already offering 30".