There are tonns of very well equipped PC's for less the 3k and have no fear Apple will make sure to lose no money. I would guess they pay no more the 2k for the parts of a entry level iMac Pro.
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iMac Pro Described as Blazingly Fast, Quiet, and Fairly Priced, But Lacks Upgradeability
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Good question especially when Apple says they can't even offer it for sale until FCC approval is received. They must expect approval by tomorrow.
This is a cut and paste from the iMac Pro Apple site here; https://www.apple.com/imac-pro/,
it will go away once approval is received:
- Content is sold separately. Title availability is subject to change.
- Technical specifications are subject to change.
- This device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained.
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Wow. I don’t think you managed to say a single sentence that is in any sense true. That’s quite something!
I am not a “pro” user although I actually use a computer (an iPad Pro 12.9) to do the work that earns my wages. But the funny thing with those complaints about the cost of the iMac Pro is... to an actual “pro” user in the sense implied by the specs of the machine, that money isn’t much. It’s earned in one job or two. So my conclusion is that those whining about the cost are 1) not, in any sense, “pro” users, probably not even in the sense that I am a pro user even though all I need is a word processor and a referencing app, and 2) fundamentally just heartbroken that they won’t be able to afford the shiniest new toy on Apple’s shelves. But that cool looking space grey thing...is not a toy. It’s above the range of what most people can afford to buy even though the don’t need it just to look cool.
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To be fair, Boeing Business Jets does offer the 787 VIP and around a dozen were ordered (including one by Michael Dell).
But seriously, I do agree with you in general. While some individuals will certainly buy it for "bragging rights", the majority will probably be sold to :enterprise" customers in "large" quantities with the rest purchased by individuals and smaller outfits with workflows that make use of and benefit from the components.
Yes and a modular system also comes with it's down disadvantages.
I find it very funny the attention the black cable got.
You claimed that you can buy (or build) a similar equipped PC for half the cost of an iMac Pro. I am not being rude at all, I'm simply stating that your comment is absolutely incorrect. If you have anything to back up what you say, I encourage you to show us.
Including the 5k Display? This is a genuine question. Last time I looked the cheapest 5k Display was over $1000.
Okay. Find me a “well equipped PC” with the parts in the iMac Pro for 3k$. It should be easy, right?
I ordered twenty and then I found out... no phantom power XLR inputs! Cancelled my orders. /s You know you can adapt any one of the multiple USB3 or Thunderbolt ports to go to any sort of digital video connection, including HDMI, but also including the more capable ("pro" level ooooh!) Display Port, right?
While $5k USD looks like a lot of money for an all-in-one, once the capabilities of it are parsed it's hard not to say it's at least a reasonable value. And for its presumed target audience, the cost is likely to pay for itself in improved productivity relatively quickly.
As someone who doesn't begin to need one, I'll simply say the pricing seems perfectly in line with the performance and the overall package. If it helped me to draft appellate briefs, oporders, or teaching materials faster or better you may be sure I'd buy one. But it won't, so I'll stick with what I have.
As someone who doesn't begin to need one, I'll simply say the pricing seems perfectly in line with the performance and the overall package. If it helped me to draft appellate briefs, oporders, or teaching materials faster or better you may be sure I'd buy one. But it won't, so I'll stick with what I have.
You and this other guy va1884 are really funny. Is attacking other peoples opinion your job or just a hobby? I have to proof nothing to you and I stand to what I wrote. $4.999 is not a fair price for what you get with the new iMac Pro.
My friend, what you stated is not an opinion but a falsifiable claim. You can have all the opinions of the world but you cannot just state things that are untrue and claim freedom of speech. Somehow this seems worth bearing in mind these days.
I build a new PC pretty much every year, and yes you can build something very capable for way less money. I wasn't comparing the iMac pro to a "very well equipped" PC. I was comparing it to an actual work station with a 5K monitor, 8 core Xeon with ECC memory and a workstation GPU. You can build something that might do what you need like gaming or light video editing for less but my point is that if you compare apples to apples it isn't that crazy. High end engineering/audio/video work stations are expensive. we aren't talking about a standard use desktop or a gaming PC.
I was also comparing it to the iMac pro, not the standard iMac which I will agree are overpriced in most cases and getting worse as the years go by.
To each their own. I'm just saying... I find this infinitely more attractive than a sterile (albeit beautiful) iMac. Come on over to the dark side, Paul!
Does it come with neon light and late 30 virginity included?
It’s meant for professionals and not for the ones who browse safari, Facebook and YouTube. For professionals it’s fairly priced as they can easily cope with the cost. There are cheaper options for the rest.
I’m countering your continual assertion that you can buy a PC with the same (or very similar) components for half the price of an iMac Pro. I don’t know why you think people are attacking you. There’s just a bunch of us here that know your statement is incorrect and we are pointing it out so others are not misled. If you need a “safe space” where others cannot counter your points, this is not the place for you. This is a discussion forum.
For anyone else joining the conversation at this point in time, the cost of the components in the base-level iMac Pro are within about $200-$300 if you were to go out and buy them yourself. And then you’d have to build the computer yourself without the warranty or support that Apple provides, and you would be using Windows instead of MacOS.
I would expect something different from a desktop priced at $5,000.
As for the MBP, I'm also of the idea that they should be user upgradable. At least RAM and SSD. Just like they used to be.
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If my current MBP weren't upgradable it would have been useless right now. It had 8GB RAM and a HDD, I upgraded to 16GB RAM and an SSD and it is almost a new machine.
I think the pros are the ones that do tinker with their computers.
Why? What about "Pro" means 'user upgradeable'? That sounds more like 'enthusiast' than pro to me. A professional buys the specs they need from day one and gets working straight away because their hourly rate is high. They don't waste time tinkering around or trying to save a couple of hundred quid (dollars) getting parts a bit cheaper, the time they've done that they could have worked an hour that earns more than the savings they've made.
An enthusiast wants to tinker and wants to save money, or build the best spec for the least price - what you want is an iMac Enthusiast machine. Although probably not an all in one at all.
lol... @ "fairly" priced.
That is one expensive xmas present ..
We're moving to an upgrade path to non-upgradable.. just means users must decide ahead of time... It makes more sense with a 'Pro' user because your more likely to go with the best anyway straight away.
That is one expensive xmas present ..
We're moving to an upgrade path to non-upgradable.. just means users must decide ahead of time... It makes more sense with a 'Pro' user because your more likely to go with the best anyway straight away.
Sometimes (or maybe I should say most times) professional also work on a budget.
Also, what happens when the SSD fails in this iMac Pro? Instead of changing it for a new one in half a day on your office, you must send it to Apple for a week.
You mean professionals like doctors, architects, economists, real estate brokers, history professors, structural engineers, interior decorators, tax professionals, accountants, dentists, surveyors, musicians, attorneys, statisticians, and on and on?
Or do you mean tech enthusiasts who are in love with their computers who like to tinker? Yes, some like to tinker, especially people who hang out on tech forums. But that's a very tiny segment of Apple's market.
The iMac Pro has prodigious processing power and a ton of super-fast and extremely flexible I/O. Buy the machine that meets your needs for now and the foreseeable future.
This thing is a beast. I would love to own one, if I didn't travel so much, for now I love the portability of the 15" mbp TB, which I come home and use one cable to dock it and have everything connected to it at once.