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Well, of course the current iMac is preferred when the only other Pro “iMac” option is almost 4 years old and the other Desktop Pro is 5x + the cost.
 


Earlier this month, Apple confirmed that the iMac Pro is being discontinued. The standard configuration of the computer has remained available "while supplies last," but even this configuration is out of stock again in multiple countries.

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Apple's online store lists the iMac Pro as "Currently Unavailable" in the United States, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Australia, Italy, Spain, Portugal, and select other countries. The standard iMac Pro remains available across much of the rest of Europe and Asia, but with lengthy shipping estimates. It's likely that iMac Pro availability will continue to fluctuate, but the end of the line is clearly in sight for the computer.

Released in December 2017, the iMac Pro received no substantial hardware refreshes over its lifetime and continues to be sold for $4,999.

Apple said the 27-inch iMac introduced in August 2020 has become the preferred choice for the vast majority of pro iMac users. The latest 27-inch iMac configured with a 10-core Core i9 processor is both faster and less expensive than the standard iMac Pro with a 10-core Xeon W processor. Apple said customers who need even more performance and expandability can choose the Mac Pro, released in December 2019.

For customers who are still interested in the iMac Pro, Apple recently added a variety of configurations to its refurbished store.

Apple is rumored to be working on a redesigned iMac with Apple silicon for release later this year, so many customers may want to exercise patience. The new iMac's design is said to be inspired by Apple's high-end Pro Display XDR, with a flat back, slimmer bezels around the display, and no metal "chin" below the display.

Article Link: iMac Pro is Out of Stock Again in U.S. After Being Discontinued
 
I have the original iMac Pro (slate gray rather than the reflective silver finnish), and its been used heavily since Dec 2017. No issues whatsoever. It has been used in the office and has been rented out at times. Its cost was easily recovered in first year of ownership. The 10G ethernet port was desirable and useful for connecting to file server.

One has to recall, the iMac Pro was very likely introduced to deal with Apple not being able to upgrade or produce the follow-on to the 2013 Mac Pro in a timely manner. The iMac Pro was always seen as a fill-in computer for the 2013 Mac Pro until the new 2019 Mac Pro surfaced. It makes sense to me that the iMac Pro is now being abandoned by Apple.

I just hope the new iMac comes with the 10G port unlike Apple did with their new M1 mini with just the 1G ethernet port. I also hope the new candy-coloured iMac are offered in black or slate gray.

If the new iMac performs in a similar manner to my M1 mini I'll will be very happy.
 
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Bought my iMac Pro in 2018- refurbished 10 core, 128gb Ram, 2tb SSD, 16gb Pro Vega 64. It’s my freelance work computer and it paid for itself within the first weekend of using it. Great all rounder when paired with my Cintiq and iPad Pro. It’s still clobbering all the work I can throw at it.
Yep, and on refurb a good deal could be found.
Bought my iMac Pro in 2018- refurbished 10 core, 128gb Ram, 2tb SSD, 16gb Pro Vega 64. It’s my freelance work computer and it paid for itself within the first weekend of using it. Great all rounder when paired with my Cintiq and iPad Pro. It’s still clobbering all the work I can throw at it.
 
Bought my iMac Pro in 2018- refurbished 10 core, 128gb Ram, 2tb SSD, 16gb Pro Vega 64. It’s my freelance work computer and it paid for itself within the first weekend of using it. Great all rounder when paired with my Cintiq and iPad Pro. It’s still clobbering all the work I can throw at it.

Nice!
I have an iMac 2020 with the 5700XT, 8-core, 64GB of ram, 2TB SSD. So for context, the iMac Pro from 4 years ago had all the power and more than today’s almost spec’ed out iMac 2020. Us normal iMac owners still don’t get: 2 extra TB ports, better thermals, ECC ram, Enterprise level CPUs (Xeon’s and whatnot), 18-cores possibility (caps at 10-cores) and the Vega 64 on the iMac Pro benchmarks either higher or the same (can’t remember) than the top of the line iMac 2020 gpu... I don’t think it was a bad machine at all contrary to some comments said in here!

Curious question, do you use the iPad Pro for drawing? I don’t have a cintiq, just a normal Wacom, but for what I do (for sure as heck doesn’t pay a top line machine on a weekend) I just find myself using the iPad Pro more and more... either simple things like the screencap to iPad for markup auto-continuity feature or even affinity photo’ing things by putting the files on an iCloud folder/Airdrops. So fun to use.
 
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Nice!
I have an iMac 2020 with the 5700XT, 8-core, 64GB of ram, 2TB SSD. So for context, the iMac Pro from 4 years ago had all the power and more than today’s almost spec’ed out iMac 2020. Us normal iMac owners still don’t get: 2 extra TB ports, better thermals, ECC ram, Enterprise level CPUs (Xeon’s and whatnot), 18-cores possibility (caps at 10-cores) and the Vega 64 on the iMac Pro benchmarks either higher or the same (can’t remember) than the top of the line iMac 2020 gpu... I don’t think it was a bad machine at all contrary to some comments said in here!

Curious question, do you use the iPad Pro for drawing? I don’t have a cintiq, just a normal Wacom, but for what I do (for sure as heck doesn’t pay a top line machine on a weekend) I just find myself using the iPad Pro more and more... either simple things like the screencap to iPad for markup auto-continuity feature or even affinity photo’ing things by putting the files on an iCloud folder/Airdrops. So fun to use.

Totally agree, the iMac Pro is a great machine and the 2020 iMac you have is a hell of a machine as well!
What I purchased hit the sweet spot for me and those extra thunderbolt ports and ECC RAM are getting a workout let me tell ya.

I use my iPad Pro for drawing and animating everyday! Has definitely been a workhorse ever since I got it. Before I had the cintiq and iMac Pro, my main work setup was a nearly maxed out 2016 MBP 15 and my current 2017 12.9 iPad Pro, both refurbished. Had the iPad Pro linked up to the MBP with Astropad/Luna Display to easily switch back and forth as a drawing tablet and second display. I’m a motion designer so having access to After Effects, Premiere Pro, Illustrator, Photoshop, Affinity iOS Apps, Procreate and Rough Animator all on the same mobile setup was a game changer.

I thought I’d use the cintiq more than the iPad Pro but it turned out to be the opposite. I mostly use the cintiq for desktop specific tasks (Blender, Photoshop, Krita, etc) and use my iPad Pro for the majority of my illustration, animatics and storyboards (even some 3-D modeling via Nomad.)

For me personally, the iPad Pro narrowly wins over the iMac Pro for the best computer I’ve ever owned. Simply because, like you said, it’s so fun to use and it allows me to get some serious work done on the couch. :)
 
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Totally agree, the iMac Pro is a great machine and the 2020 iMac you have is a hell of a machine as well!
What I purchased hit the sweet spot for me and those extra thunderbolt ports and ECC RAM are getting a workout let me tell ya.

I use my iPad Pro for drawing and animating everyday! Has definitely been a workhorse ever since I got it. Before I had the cintiq and iMac Pro, my main work setup was a nearly maxed out 2016 MBP 15 and my current 2017 12.9 iPad Pro, both refurbished. Had the iPad Pro linked up to the MBP with Astropad/Luna Display to easily switch back and forth as a drawing tablet and second display. I’m a motion designer so having access to After Effects, Premiere Pro, Illustrator, Photoshop, Affinity iOS Apps, Procreate and Rough Animator all on the same mobile setup was a game changer.

I thought I’d use the cintiq more than the iPad Pro but it turned out to be the opposite. I mostly use the cintiq for desktop specific tasks (Blender, Photoshop, Krita, etc) and use my iPad Pro for the majority of my illustration, animatics and storyboards (even some 3-D modeling via Nomad.)

For me personally, the iPad Pro narrowly wins over the iMac Pro for the best computer I’ve ever owned. Simply because, like you said, it’s so fun to use and it allows me to get some serious work done on the couch. :)
Yes! Can relate, I believe some apps, like Procreate have set the bar to where it should be for users, so much so that Pixaki most recent version is now quite close to the experience of Procreate but for pixel art... don't really know who came up first, but I just like seeing unified default behaviours for navigation, shortcuts, etc (like two finger tap undo, three re-do).

Thanks so much for sharing a glimpse of your workflows and experiences, wrote down two of the apps mentioned, namely: Rough Animator and Nomad sculpting. The only 3D modelling one I had ever began to explore was Shapr3D but it's mostly rigid CAD stuff (and amazing at it, have seen examples of video game assets started there), so glad to see these boundaries being pushed forward.

Cheers.
 
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People are still buying these after they announced they are discontinuing? Interesting.

If I needed an Intel-powered iMac it would be my choice (via refurb). The cooling system is significantly better than what is in the 2020 iMac so in terms of quietness and component lifespan the iMac Pro is / should be better.

Not sure how the Vega 56 compares to the new 5700 series, but if it is on-par with the 5700XT, then the price difference between a new 2020 iMac and a refurb iMac Pro with 8c/32GB/1TB is as low as $200.
 
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If I needed an Intel-powered iMac it would be my choice (via refurb). The cooling system is significantly better than what is in the 2020 iMac so in terms of quietness and component lifespan the iMac Pro is / should be better.

Not sure how the Vega 56 compares to the new 5700 series, but if it is on-par with the 5700XT, then the price difference between a new 2020 iMac and a refurb iMac Pro with 8c/32GB/1TB is as low as $200.
I get it, and I'm a big fan of refurbs. It's just that the models are 2-3 years old, so some of the internals are out of date. Still a great machine though. But you're only 4ish years away from it being obsolete (I think it's 7 years?)
 
Yes! Can relate, I believe some apps, like Procreate have set the bar to where it should be for users, so much so that Pixaki most recent version is now quite close to the experience of Procreate but for pixel art... don't really know who came up first, but I just like seeing unified default behaviours for navigation, shortcuts, etc (like two finger tap undo, three re-do).

Thanks so much for sharing a glimpse of your workflows and experiences, wrote down two of the apps mentioned, namely: Rough Animator and Nomad sculpting. The only 3D modelling one I had ever began to explore was Shapr3D but it's mostly rigid CAD stuff (and amazing at it, have seen examples of video game assets started there), so glad to see these boundaries being pushed forward.

Cheers.
Just checked out Pixaki! Very nice to find another app that parallels Procreate with those features/functions for drawing and animation.

For sure, always happy to share any process-related stuff. Nomad is a beast of an app, can get 4k renders in no time and it has multi-resolution mesh which makes sculpting so much more enjoyable. Definitely gonna check out Shapr3D and am keeping my fingers crossed there are more apps being developed for iPad OS that are pushing those boundaries.
 
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I get it, and I'm a big fan of refurbs. It's just that the models are 2-3 years old, so some of the internals are out of date. Still a great machine though. But you're only 4ish years away from it being obsolete (I think it's 7 years?)

Aye it is not state of the art, to be sure, but for my needs it would be more than enough and I hope the "better" components (Xeons, ECC memory, workstation GPU) and improved cooling would mean it would continue to function well after 2024 (when AppleCare would run out).

But I am holding out to see what the new M-series iMac bring to the table.
 
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Aye it is not state of the art, to be sure, but for my needs it would be more than enough and I hope the "better" components (Xeons, ECC memory, workstation GPU) and improved cooling would mean it would continue to function well after 2024 (when AppleCare would run out).

But I am holding out to see what the new M-series iMac bring to the table.
I think you're right - and the longevity of the machines in general are still amazing - I had a 2010 27" iMac and got rid of it after 9 years - I'd say it didn't owe me anything!
 
Aye it is not state of the art, to be sure, but for my needs it would be more than enough and I hope the "better" components (Xeons, ECC memory, workstation GPU) and improved cooling would mean it would continue to function well after 2024 (when AppleCare would run out).

But I am holding out to see what the new M-series iMac bring to the table.
Just to add, these machines are as powerful (since 4 years ago) as the top of the line normal iMacs today, and are beyond in cooling, number of screens that can be connected (+4 vs +2), TB ports (4 vs 2), max official RAM supported (+ECC), the Vega 64X is actually more performant than today's top 5700XT if I read the benchmarks right (same 16GB amount but HBM2 memory).

So if the current one is the metric for 7+ years of shelf life, then the iMac Pro being as or even more powerful it would definitely also have at least those same 7+ years of useful life.

Being +$200 the only difference I would argue that this thread that started as a trashing of the machine pretty much feels like an acceptable deal to me now.

But granted, can't wait to see what these M-ones are going to be about. Likely not disappointing at all.
 
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Could not disagree more. I'm fortunate enough to get to use pretty much any piece of kit I want for the most part, and my couple of iMac Pro units have been by FAR my most favourite pieces of Apple gear I've ever owned.

The 4 TB ports + 10Gbe were incredibly useful, and the units scaled really well for stuff that I did every day - lots of virtualisation and the like. One of mine has gone now (the smaller 8 core), and it will be missed.

It's been a fantastic solid work-horse. I've also got access to some i9 current gen iMacs too - they're also great machines of course, and in some respects faster than the 'Pro, but I miss those TB ports and how much the units can do before they slow down.

Loved them, great bits of kit.
So you wouldn’t call me crazy, - because I just purchased one. I will get an “as new“ unit that is barely one year old with full Apple Care+ and a Vega64 for about 3K. I couldn’t resist and I always wanted one. I figured now or never. Plus I am coming from a MP 5,1 and I can use all my original Cinema Displays on it. I wouldn’t be able to use those on the new APple silicone stuff, and I need bootcamp.
 
So you wouldn’t call me crazy, - because I just purchased one. I will get an “as new“ unit that is barely one year old with full Apple Care+ and a Vega64 for about 3K. I couldn’t resist and I always wanted one. I figured now or never. Plus I am coming from a MP 5,1 and I can use all my original Cinema Displays on it. I wouldn’t be able to use those on the new APple silicone stuff, and I need bootcamp.
At least not at the depths of where this thread is at, if you had mentioned this at the very beginning maybe some roasting might have happened.
For $3K I think it’s a steal and kudos for having kept the displays. Myself I do connect 2 TB Apple displays and its great. Not too sure if you mean actual Cinema Display vs TB display (nor the full drawbacks if any), but I keep them for the convenience, they look still crisp, still full brightness since when new (2011!), heck even the fact that brightness is controlled via the keyboard brightness keys depending on which monitor the mouse has focus on...
This all reminds me that if Apple launches new cinema displays at a reasonable price, I would say $1K since by today’s Apple’s standard sounds like a deal... but that’s crazy, I remember the TB displays being $1K was way out of everything else price wise at the time (I bought one open box and one used).
 
looking forward future Apple silicon on the laptops but desktop still prefer my iMac pro's because virtualisation and bootcamp
 
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