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iMac Pro Updated With 256GB RAM and Radeon Pro Vega 64X Graphics Options
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I think you are very close to reality. I think those who are salivating at the prospect of yanking out the default GPU from its PCIe x16 slot the day it arrives and putting an RTX 2080Ti GPU in are going to absolutely lose their minds when Apple introduces the new Mac Pro and your GPU is a choice of low, mid, high (all AMD) encased in an aluminums slab that clicks into place and can be expanded up to 3x GPUs, but there is zero way to just insert some random New Egg shell shocker NVIDIA GTX1660 Ti GPU into the Mac Pro to play Apex Legends or Battlefield 5.
Grab some popcorn and a disposable poncho, because it is going to be a $#!7$#0w.
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Nope...Xeon Impostor Class, no ECC needed! YOLO!
how is it any more messy than a Thunderbolt v3 external closure that takes 1-2 PCI-e cards? The increasing number of Thunderbolt v3 systems that Apple has sold all can have "expansion" devices hooked up to them.
Is Apple going to cover everything device possible from the Windows space? No. ( apple isn't going to write drivers for everything and everybody isn't going to write macOS drivers either. ). But does the "problem" shrink all the way down to 100% exactly to what Apple solders to their own motherboards? No. So where is the big hang up with having a couple of slots have to cover anyway with at least some partial driver support?
Memory DIMMs never left the iMac 27 or iMac Pro or Mac Pro 2013.
Storage drives. ( xPCI-e m.2 SSDs .... it would show up even if only have Thunderbolt. v3 ).
Is Apple going to nuke internal Optical Drive. Almost certain. Big, giant empty drive bays that could hold tape drives or legacy optical drive ? No.
There are folks who have taken Apple's "Mini Stack" demo last Fall and Red Camera and completely run off to Lego land Mac Pro. There is exceedingly very little in anything that Apple has said when talking generally about the next Mac Pro that motivates that in the slightest. They didn't rule it out ( They should if going to keep kick the ball down the road past April. ), but nothing much rule in either. That's more folks on the outside looking in their own fun house mirror them Apple.
I think there are some parts that Apple isn't going to want folks to willy nilly swap out. The default boot drive and mutating the firmware is highly likely one. The default display GPU has a very good chance of being the other. Folks will be able to hook monitor to it, keyboard , mouse, and it will just work out the box ( not snap it together required. )
folks who primarily do not want to use it as a Mac will probably be unhappy.
I think is more a measure of how big a control freak.... the ability to undo the maximum number of design choices that Apple made. If that is a factor then probably will be unhappy. If Apple hits its right they will be a limited set of augments that folks can do. Not everything, but also not nothing. Apple would have to rein in some of their control freak objectives too. Somewhere closer to the middle will be a highly useful Mac Pro. [ and the folks on both extremes where control is issue #1 will never be happy. ]
A decent profit? Yes. Obviously if they are now one of richest companies in the world.
And look that’s the problem, many people never would have thought of looking at computers other than Apple. But now that’s becoming a reality if you want a higher spec computer for a good price. It’s much cheaper to build your own PC and max it out using even better ram and SSDs than Apple has options for.
Thanks, Point taken. Well beyond anything I’d ever do, so I didn’t think it through. Apolgies
it is. Just by Pros not user-installable (https://everymac.com/systems/apple/...ac-pro-how-to-upgrade-replace-ram-memory.html). Point taken, but misleading. At least its not soldered to to darn board
You are comparing different things. A closer comparison would be that a company that owns a fleet of cars saves time and hassle by going to the dealer for washer fluid because they think tinkering around on their own isn't worthy the extra savings.
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Of course it would be a lot nicer at 1/4 the price. It would be even better if it was free! What is the point of your argument?
Last time I checked, Apple wasn’t holding a gun to people’s heads and forcing them to purchase iMac Pros with maxed out specs.
They, like everything else, are options. Most people desiring one are going to be fine with 64 gb ram and 1-2 Tb of SSD storage (while relying on external storage), which still ultimately works out to a reasonably-priced package overall.
What profession would someone need a $15k computer? I plead ignorance which is why I’m asking. Video editing? What else?
If someone was doing engineering simulations (for example Maxwell’s equations in some arbitrary dielectric structure) in full 3D and needed a fine grid to ensure the equations converge they could easily eat up lots of memory.
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A friend of mine in the mid80s made a comment to me of ‘Why would anyone need more than 64K?”256gb RAM. Insane.
we've come a long way since my 48k speccy
We all know prices for tech drops. My POINT was Apple sold expensive computers then and still do today. Much for the same prices. Most other vendors lowered their prices with time. So here we are today calling it the Apple tax. Heck if you reversed priced current Mac's to the old ones using your snarky math....yes 80s Mac's would've been $100,000+ then. Apple let tech mature and kept their old price tags out.
What about a real workstation graphics card with ECC vram like a Radeon Pro wx9100 or Quadro rtx and not a rebranded gaming card?
Man. Not all pros work in companies with fleets. In fact the majority of companies in some countries are under 10 employees. A free lancer is still a pro as well. Are you trying to justify the smugness of the original poster from that comment? He was basically stating that if you can't afford an extra 2000 premiu for RAM you are not a pro.
On your car thing, companies that do have fleets don't pay for individual maintenance and sure as hell don't pay 20 for washer fluid. They have service packages that comes with the rental/lease agreement.
Thank you, Apple. Remember the time when the users upgraded their storage, RAM, GPUs, CPUs for reasonable amounts of money all by themselves?
OMG....Marathon from Bungie?
What a great game that was...or Triology that is.....played that on my old blue G3 and grey G4......the hidden doors ...the maps....up all night playing that. Certainly not played in HD, but great fun anyway.
And then there was Oni.
Great times.
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I have an issue with all in one computers and their price point. Anything over £3k and I'm thinking a desktop would be a better option. There is just a tipping point where they don't make sense. Yes, you have to add a screen, but you are getting much more capable hardware and more flexibility. A mid-tier iMac is a nice machine and good value, but the iMac Pro is just easily beat by much cheaper PC's. Can't see the point in it unless you absolutely have to run Final Cut. Apple really need to get that Mac Pro out. I know it won't be a cheap machine, but if Apple have been listening it will be upgradable and that makes it worth the investment.
Naaaa I was snarky because in reality what you got for that $2000 Mac on release was miles ahead of the competition in sophistication and actually price. It set the standard for every personal computer that followed even including those today. sure it cost more, but it was worth more. And to a large degree apple still delivers a quality experience. sure if you want to imply thats an apple tax and not worth it, that's your opinion, but I don't care if other vendors are now making cheaper machines. they are less quality. I also dont buy the cheapest car on the road. Apple computers still set the standard.
Correct they don't - and pros have hardware that costs much more than an iMac Pro which does one single task and can't be upgraded. No one complains about, so I don't understand this entitled idea that all computers should be upgradable because they were once for a bit.
Second point, I agree that most things can't make use of all the hardware, but by the time they do and people want to start tinkering the warranty would be voided anyway.
