But you can get a better (Nvidia) card with it.
Where is the screen?
But you can get a better (Nvidia) card with it.
The upgradeable machine is coming in 2018. The modular Mac Pro.
Yeah, they didn't exactly say 2018. That's pure supposition by me. Would be pretty janky to announce a product more than a year out. That's some Kickstarter type of stuff. Not really Apple-like.Have they actually said/promised 2018? I don't think I've seen that in writing anywhere...
No it’s not SO-DIMM but even third party RAM is $400 for the 32GB sticks. So $1600 third party or $2,400 from Apple. Most corporate/ enterprise/ business users will prefer Apple in any case. Smaller shops might prefer to save the money and have some local repair shop put it in but most of the target market for iMac Pro will simply order what they need from Apple.
How do you know it’s not SO-DIMM? I thought I remember seeing that in iMac 5K tear downs. Is the Pro different?
Personally if something that’s internal can only be upgraded by making it external I don’t deem that an upgrade. An add on sure but not an upgrade as you aren’t replacing the original parts, you simply stop using them and instead move a new one externally.
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I don’t deny there are some benefits. I just mean that in a professional environment when you have clients and deadlines breathing down your neck you want to know your system will work perfectly or have an easy outlet to get it fixed. Most post houses don’t build their own machines for that exact reason: they are then in charge of them. If I build my machine and something goes wrong I need to spend my time troubleshooting it and getting it working again. If I buy my machine pre-built it’s on the company to fix it in a timely manner. That is an (albeit expensive) important detail for professionals.
$2400 extra for 96 gb more of RAM? What are they? Nuts?
It’s ECC too. I don’t think we know if it’s RDIMM or LRDIMM yet, but Crucial’s prices are about $1,650 or $1,950 respectively for 4 x32GB kits, if you want to do the upgrade yourself. It’s probably RDIMM, so you could potentially save something like $600-700 if you had a shop do the upgrade.its 2666MHz DDR4 so I imagine that's part of why its pricey.
It likely won't fail... They've already started the catering to influencers game. People with way too much spare money to care will get it because it looks nice and is beefy and "the latest".The whole design of this thing is a show-off of why the current Apple is against the traditional Mac Pro concept. The current Apple wants to be in control of your choices and moves. The traditional Mac Pro put you in control, and Apple cannot permit that anymore. The only hope for the promised “modular Mac Pro” is that this weird thing fails like the cylinder. And still... what will the current Apple mean by “modular”?
People (who aren't in the market for this machine) will still complain that "pros" can't open it up themselves to upgrade the internals. Because all "pros" are techie people who open up their machines.
How do you know it’s not SO-DIMM? I thought I remember seeing that in iMac 5K tear downs. Is the Pro different?
My guess is, it's very tight quarters, and with improper installation the incredible performance (from the reviews) of a whisper-quiet fan may have something to do with it. In other words, I don't know. It's not normal RAM, too. Not easily available on the consumer market, so what you find may be expensive even when you're buying it for your Intel W workstation.
I agree with that not all "pros" are not techies that open up their machines. But now the "pros" that are techies can't upgrade they ram. Is that like big middle finger to all techie "pros" ?
The whole design of this thing is a show-off of why the current what will the current Apple mean by “modular”?
It's SODIMM in the regular iMacs, has been since the first Intel iMac. But this thing may be different.
I just checked, the service guide isn't up yet, and I haven't found a teardown at the usual locations either, so I don't know what's going to be in it. There haven't historically been ECC SODIMMs, so it's possible that it's full size DIMMs.
I can say that I strongly suspect it's going to be kind of a pain to do, much like the 21.5" iMac RAM upgrades have been. If you're not familiar with that procedure, on the ones with no external memory slot that don't have soldered RAM, upgrading requires removing the logic board, the RAM is on the back side. To remove the logic board, you have to cut off the screen (yes, cut - and clean off the old adhesive, and put new adhesive strips on to put it back together) and remove the power supply and hard drive.
Glad they're working on an update to the now several-years-out-of-date Mac Mini that they claim is an important part of their strategy, and which they're going to quietly discontinue then immediately declare obsolete, if they haven't already done so, and not trivial, frivolous things like headphones and 'smart' speakers... Oh, wait, no. This story has nothing to do with the Mac Mini.
Standard 27-inch iMacs have a small hatch in the back that allows the RAM in the machine to be upgraded after purchase, but the iMac Pro does not have that feature.
There is no rear hatch because the RAM in the iMac Pro is not user upgradeable following purchase, but there's good news -- an Apple Store or an Apple Authorized Service Provider is able to open up the iMac Pro and swap out the RAM.
iMore's Rene Ritchie spoke to Apple and learned that any service center is able to upgrade the RAM on an iMac Pro following purchase.
At Apple Stores, iMac Pro users will likely only be able to upgrade to Apple-provided RAM, but third-party service providers will be able to offer non-Apple RAM and might even allow users to bring in their own RAM. Policy will undoubtedly vary by location, however.
The entry-level $4,999 iMac Pro ships with 32GB of 2666MHz ECC RAM, but up to 128GB RAM is supported. Apple charges $800 to upgrade to 64GB RAM and $2,400 to upgrade to 128GB RAM. Upgrading RAM after purchase in eligible machines is often more affordable than purchasing Apple's RAM upgrades at checkout.
There are no post-purchase options for upgrading the SSD, processor, or graphics card in the iMac Pro.
Apple began allowing customers to purchase the iMac Pro this morning. 8 and 10-core machines will begin shipping out this week, while 14 and 18-core options won't be available to ship out for 6 to 8 weeks. While the entry-level iMac Pro is priced at $4,999, there are a number of upgrades available. A maxed out 18-core machine with 4TB of storage and a Radeon Pro Vega 64 is priced at $13,199.
Article Link: iMac Pro's RAM Can Only Be Upgraded by Apple or Authorized Service Provider
You seem to be assuming Apple gives a rats ass about anything but maximizing profits. LOLI don't get it; what's the reason behind this change? Surely they should make a Pro machine MORE upgradeable, not less.
Not scientific by any means but the top threads on this story are all people expressing that they don't like this change and yours has about 2 other people who seem to think everything is just fine as you do. Oh, on a Mac enthusiast site. Just saying.And almost no one cares except the vocal minority.
Literally, who cares.
isn't that The question! Because that's the only way to get the the hard-drive.Why would you remove the display to replace the HDD...?
Of course a thread designed to complain about it will attract complainers. My point is that Mac users aren't PC users in general. Customization and modding your own gear is left to the PC guys in general.Not scientific by any means but the top threads on this story are all people expressing that they don't like this change and yours has about 2 other people who seem to think everything is just fine as you do. Oh, on a Mac enthusiast site. Just saying.
Of course a thread designed to complain about it will attract complainers. My point is that Mac users aren't PC users in general. Customization and modding your own gear is left to the PC guys in general.
$2400 extra for 96 gb more of RAM? What are they? Nuts?