iMac Pros With Custom Xeon Chips Possibly Appear on Geekbench Ahead of December Launch

[apolloa]

So this will be overpriced, overheated and underpowered, just because Apple and apparently it’s users wanted that ultra thin bezel on a desktop...

 

[szw-mapple fan]

So another Apple product that is thermally limited due to the prioritization of design aesthetic over function? For that kind of money, it should have it's own special chassis, and possibly a bigger/thicker shell, to allow it to run at full speed.

The motherboard arrangement and cooling systems are totally different from the regular iMac. Just because it look the same doesn’t mean it will have the same internals.

 

[TallManNY]

Since I'm using a 2011 iMac running off an external SSD boot drive (for speed) at home, I'm pretty sure I don't need this. But I kind of want it.

 

[Tech198]

Server-grade style in a consumer device. but with a trade off as usual..... all in one design, but lower the TDP, probably not a big deal.. It's still all about cooling.

 

[Antony Newman]

For references :

Just ran Geekbench 4 on my 2013 Mac Pro : 10 cores : Xeon E5-2690 v2 3.00 GHz

Single : 3659
Multi : 28293

The new (2017) 10 core iMac is 27% faster than my 4 year old machine in the multi-core test.

This not enough of a jump to pique my own interest.
It seems awfully like ... Apple have designed themselves into ANOTHER thermally limited structure.

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For the 2018? Mac Pro - I really hope that Apple releases a Desktop GPU using TSMC 7nm process (that is rapidly going to be ramping up in 2018).

I need a machine that easily process 8K Raw footage : 3 times faster ... Not 30% faster.

AJ

 

[ipadoxca]

I want that wallpaper. anyone know where I can I grab it ?

 

[jonnysods]

Man I forgot about this thing!

 

[wallysb01]

Lets all stop drooling shall we. Coffee lake 8700(K)s are doing around 22-24K in multicore. So what the hell is Apple going to do when 6 core iMacs for like 2K less are damn near as fast as this 8 core?

 

[apolloa]

For references :

Just ran Geekbench 4 on my 2013 Mac Pro : 10 cores : Xeon E5-2690 v2 3.00 GHz

Single : 3659
Multi : 28293

The new (2017) 10 core iMac is 27% faster than my 4 year old machine in the multi-core test.

This not enough of a jump to pique my own interest.
It seems awfully like ... Apple have designed themselves into ANOTHER thermally limited structure.

--

For the 2018? Mac Pro - I really hope that Apple releases a Desktop GPU using TSMC 7nm process (that is rapidly going to be ramping up in 2018).

I need a machine that easily process 8K Raw footage : 3 times faster ... Not 30% faster.

AJ

8K!! Can the human eye even tell the difference? Why 8K? I mean I know RED will do 8K, meh we’ll have 12K sooner or later.

 

[deanthedev]

At the price of this config, spending $100 extra for a 960 Pro and $150 more for the most expensive TR4 motherboard is nothing. Non ECC RAM is faster, and Zen likes that.

An expensive integated monitor sucks, and upgrading will be a pain. I would understand people preferring a cMP, but not an iMac.

People have commented they could build a better system for “a fraction of the cost” or “2K less”.

I haven’t seen anyone come close yet.

 

[fairuz]

I'll admit, I have a 2.8GHz eight core MacPro at home and keeping all eight cores busy is difficult.

Heh. I find it very easy to use all the cores when they're compressing RAM since my 4GiB isn't enough (had 14, but 10 failed). Do that while Google Hangouts is running and ****ing two of my cores by itself... Time for a new computer soon.
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+ a 5k display $1300

That, and a webcam, keyboard, mouse, and nice speakers. It really adds up.
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Are you for real? You know nothing about computers if you think BYOPC's are ugly.

They are, both the hardware and the software. I don't care about my desktop being ugly, and I'd ditch Apple and build my own Hackintosh if only I felt like fixing problems with my main work machine all the time. That alone ain't worth.

 

[Larry-K]

Anyone want to remind me WHY it has to be in the same iMac enclosure?

Thermal enhancements or not, it seems like another arbitrarily imposed roadblock.

 

[fairuz]

Anyone want to remind me WHY it has to be in the same iMac enclosure?

Thermal enhancements or not, it seems like another arbitrarily imposed roadblock.

It's not the same really. Looks pretty similar, but it's thicker and stuff.

 

[cube]

People have commented they could build a better system for “a fraction of the cost” or “2K less”.

I haven’t seen anyone come close yet.

What is your config and how much does it cost?

 

[Larry-K]

Even with lower frequencies, it was presented at WWDC as the fastest Mac ever made. It isn't overpriced for what it can do. Just over priced for someone that just uses an iPad as their main PC.

Every new High End Mac is introduced as the "Fastest Mac Ever", so what?

 

[deanthedev]

What is your config and how much does it cost?

As I stated to the other poster. The same as an iMac Pro. After all, this is the machine people say can be built for a fraction of the cost.

 

[mudflap]

Are you for real? You know nothing about computers if you think BYOPC's are ugly.

Show me the hackintosh.

 

[cube]

As I stated to the other poster. The same as an iMac Pro. After all, this is the machine people say can be built for a fraction of the cost.

I stopped following Apple. All I know about the iMac Pro is that it will have Xeon and Vega.

 

[fairuz]

The motherboard arrangement and cooling systems are totally different from the regular iMac. Just because it look the same doesn’t mean it will have the same internals.

Yeah, but it still can't cool itself properly.

 

[Larry-K]

It's not the same really. Looks pretty similar, but it's thicker and stuff.

Still, if you're down-clocking anything, you need more "stuff".

 

[brock2621]

I’m so desperate to order a fleet of these to upgrade my employees current iMacs. We’ve got some that are first gen of new design all the way thru most recent retina 5k maxed out with SSDs.

We do 6k video editing and 4k animations and it just chews through everything we can throw at it. My team has been patient with the lockups and crashes so I’m excited to get these to reward them a little.

 

[blueridgedog]

I so wish there was a downvote button for this.

This is for professional applications, where reliability is paramount, and people don't have time to be messing about with your super overclocked hack box. And I know you'll come back and say yours is completely reliable, has never gone wrong etc. and that a baby could make it work, but it's simply not true.

What you have is a hobby machine for geeks who like to tinker (and I don;t have a problem with that, I've been temped to build one myself and I sued to run OS X on an MSI Wind back in the day). This is for people with jobs in content creation.

Hardware is hardware. Apple isn't making much of anything chipwise that is in that box. Assembling your own should not come with the assumption it is flawed. I too get competitive numbers with some carefully curated hardware that runs OSX amazingly well with better cooling, modularity and upgradability. I produce work on it as well, mostly 3D CAD and coding. I do have four macs but my hack is the workhorse.

 

[flat five]

When would one use multiple cores all firing at the same time?

It's an honest question.

when you're not actually using the computer anymore

 

[Larry-K]

All in all, the benchmarks point to the iMac Pro being unsurprisingly powerful from top to bottom. And that's not even looking at the 18-core iMac Pro, which hasn't been benchmarked yet and will surely blow every other Mac out of the water--at least until the modular Mac Pro is ready.

Yes, and it will undoubtedly feature the same lack luster single-core performance that all these single CPU models feature.

 

[chfilm]

It’s really mean that we know a new Mac Pro is coming st some point but don’t know anything about it- so the temptation to jump on this one is really big, coming from an 8core nMP... but I guess I’ll wait till next summer and see how things develop. The Mac Pro still holds up pretty well.