I am really looking forward to the new MacPro. I really hope it can be customised to everyones need. Meaning I can start with a Mac Mini config all the way up.
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iMac Pros With Custom Xeon Chips Possibly Appear on Geekbench Ahead of December Launch
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I never needed it on a Mac, but it sucks not to have it on a self-built PC.
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So basically once 5k iMac gets updated to i7-8700k it will bench pretty much the same as the iMac Pro with 8-core xeon but cost less? No space grey is bummer though.
I don't mind a little time between updates, but the Mac Mini is lagging way behind in features and speed for the price. Who knows, maybe they're helping Intel wear down their processor inventory in that generation.
Though, if they'd bring back the user-accessible RAM and easily-accessible storage, I'd be a lot happier.
I so wish there was a downvote button for this.
This is for professional applications, where reliability is paramount, and people don't have time to be messing about with your super overclocked hack box. And I know you'll come back and say yours is completely reliable, has never gone wrong etc. and that a baby could make it work, but it's simply not true.
What you have is a hobby machine for geeks who like to tinker (and I don't have a problem with that, I've been temped to build one myself and I used to run OS X on an MSI Wind back in the day). This is for people with jobs in content creation.
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You quoted non-ECC RAM. You used an older model Plextor SSD which will get slaughtered by Apples version (their SSDs with custom controller are insanely fast - I can only imagine their newest will be even faster). The motherboard is missing several ports (no 10GB LAN and only 2 USB-C).
And as pointed out before, no 5K monitor (which needs to support DCI-P3 wide gamut to match the iMac).
I’ve been building gaming rigs since the early 90’s. You can do better than pre-built machines, but not nearly as good as people claim. And I hate having to send individual components out for warranty when something quits, and deal with the wait time until I get a replacement.
All was good till you mentioned hackintosh. No thanks, I like dependability and stability.
Seriously considering waiting for the new Mac Pro. The inability to easily upgrade memory and GPU are massive factors - especially since many Cinema 4D renderers are only supporting Nvidia's CUDA architecture these days.
My 2010 cMP is already maxed out and, while it still works like a charm, it's so tempting to just go for the iMac Pro. No promises from Apple that we'll even see the new Mac Pro in 2018, and could be another year even if we do.
My 2010 cMP is already maxed out and, while it still works like a charm, it's so tempting to just go for the iMac Pro. No promises from Apple that we'll even see the new Mac Pro in 2018, and could be another year even if we do.
At the price of this config, spending $100 extra for a 960 Pro and $150 more for the most expensive TR4 motherboard is nothing. Non ECC RAM is faster, and Zen likes that.
An expensive integated monitor sucks, and upgrading will be a pain. I would understand people preferring a cMP, but not an iMac.
Xeon is a total overkill for almost everyone. We can build a much faster Hackintosh from a small fraction of that money.
Please show us a picture of your ugly-ass hackintosh.
That's not the point. They created another thermal-limited nightmare, just so they can keep the thin bezels. That's not pro. Pros don't care about thin bezels. Why not just an external box connected via a single cable that carries power, video, data, everything? Many people would take the not-that-ugly box, if it means better cooling and upgradeablity. Like supersized Mac mini. Not that most of us would buy an $8000 computer anyway. For this kind of money you can build the most amazing Threadripper video editing station with curved ultra wide QLED display.
I wonder what's more reliable... a custom-built Hackintosh... or the same custom-built machine running Windows 10 ?
As a Windows user who builds his own machines... I already have a machine with the things you hope the next Mac Pro will have (modularity, expandability, upgradability)
Y'all must really love MacOS to put up with a single vendor that more-often-than-not doesn't offer the hardware you desire.
That may be so, but arguing for a Hackintosh with an external display which doesn't even have remotely the same specs also isn't "the point".
The iMac Pro is an all-in-one device. Deal with it. Many people in this thread seem to prefer a stand-alone workstation computer. That's fine. This isn't that.
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Neither is going to be used in a professional environment, so the question is irrelevant.
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Come on, man... most of the WORLD is run on Windows.
There are are PLENTY of "professional environments" running Windows.
Yes. And none of them use a custom-built machine.
Yep, it's crazy, no doubt. And it's crazy, absolutely crazy, that Apple hasn't used liquid cooling in these things. Liquid cooling is now routine, easy, cheap, and reliable. Not using it makes effectively zero sense. All you've got in this thing is either something that will have to throttle performance to stay cool under load, or will cook itself like other Mac models have, or will sound like a friggin' hurricane (or, like certain Mac models, will actually manage to do all three of those things...) Although, I suppose it might, just maybe, be possible that they've used the entire metal shell somehow as the radiator... But still, even with that, I don't thing the surface area would be enough to keep it cool...
Oops... you were referring to the "custom-built" part and not the "Windows" part.
I jumped the gun. Sorry!
Idk if i would necessarily dog him out for his post, as he made a very good point. For the price he paid to build that, it has more than respectable numbers to back it up, plus he can actually put it in a non-ugly case. Thermal throttling cuts performance, and can definitely cause stability issues. Which Apple has a history of somehow cutting corners when it comes to heat dissipation. I personally have been building computers for years, and with the specs that @era86 listed, it didn't cost him no where as much to build, compared to what Apple has to offer. Plus he doesn't have to worry about his chip slowing down on him because of thermal throttling or it being downclocked from the get go. Sure, everyone has different needs and different applications, but I'm pretty sure his build is the furthest from being unstable and buggy.
The sad thing is... Apple already made machines with liquid cooling long ago.
It's almost like they forgot!
Oops... you were referring to the "custom-built" part and not the "Windows" part.
I jumped the gun. Sorry!
Yup. I make Windows software for a living, so…
More overpriced eye-candy, couldn't even deliver with the trashcan MP nor keep it competitive, imagine where this is heading. Watch people spend 5k on this only to find out 90% of the apps aren't even optimized for the hardware/resolution, including many macOS native ones. Needless to say, you could buy a 20k computer from Apple and still wouldn't handle demanding games/heat properly.
maybe they will add a red dotThen how would people know you have the most expensive one?