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iMac to Come in Both Dual-Core and Quad-Core Configs?
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Once upon a time that was a worthwhile site.
Hmmm - why did Apple request removal of this "Photoshop job" picture (according to your post on the previous page in this thread)? Wanting to "protect" their brand (Online store et al)? Or will there indeed be a "headless Mac", which may even pair up with an iMac to double processing power and co-use that iMac screen?
Or is this all a bigger fake with a faked "Removed on Apple's request" picture now in place of the original Applestore-wannabe?
WHAT EXACTLY WAS IN THE PICTURE?
Or is this all a bigger fake with a faked "Removed on Apple's request" picture now in place of the original Applestore-wannabe?
WHAT EXACTLY WAS IN THE PICTURE?
Nice find. Although doesn't really make sense in the Power-Optimized section seeing as it consumes more power than the norm
A lineup of Apple desktops, but the mini was gone and replaced with 'Mac' starting at $999. Think aluminum cube. The iMac was the the same 'Mac' Cube with the 24" LED Cinema display next to it at $1799. the iMac doesn't make any sense as why have a Mac and an iMac is a Mac cube + LED Cinema Display?
I'm thinking we may see a special 3.0 GHz CPU.
Optimized for using more power than regular mobile CPUs.Nice find. Although doesn't really make sense in the Power-Optimized section seeing as it consumes more power than the norm
When will Apple finally lift this stupid veil of OZ and just announce what new products are coming out? They make the only boxes that can legally run OS X so I don't understand the reason for not letting the public know what is coming and when.
Marketing 101 create a buzz by announcing what is coming.
Will they finally stop this whole secret thing once SJ buys the farm?
Marketing 101 create a buzz by announcing what is coming.
Will they finally stop this whole secret thing once SJ buys the farm?
I'm glad that new iMac came out today...
Oh. It didn't.
At least Wu was smart enough to not predict the date. He can always say he is right, because sooner or later those quad cores will come out.
It's like saying, "Sometime soon, someone at Apple will breathe."
Oh. It didn't.
At least Wu was smart enough to not predict the date. He can always say he is right, because sooner or later those quad cores will come out.
It's like saying, "Sometime soon, someone at Apple will breathe."
Alright, new iMac already.
http://i.gizmodo.com/5145151/iphone-4g-concept-is-a-macbook-in-a-phone
Something like that would be even better than a quad-core. Let's go Apple.
http://i.gizmodo.com/5145151/iphone-4g-concept-is-a-macbook-in-a-phone
Something like that would be even better than a quad-core. Let's go Apple.
Exactly how is this a "MacBook In a Phone"? Where's my terminal window? Can I run XP with Boot Camp?
sorry folks, no quad cores for iMac
Traditionally, iMacs have come in lower specced than MacBook Pros. That was the biggest disappointment of the October MacBook updates...
"look shiny new body... ignore that fact that you didn't get quad cores"
So on what planet does anybody expect the iMacs to be better specced than MacBook Pros and come with quad cores?
Don't get me wrong, nobody wants quad core iMacs more than me. And the longer Apple waits to update the iMac (the Al iMacs got their first update after 6 months, so they should have been updated again in AUGUST!), the higher expectations become.
Apple's desktop sales slumped over the last quarter because everyone is holding off for Mac Pro, iMac and Mini updates... all of which are WAY overdue and so far behind Windows machines available.
Back to iMacs - not only will the processors be lower specced than MacBook Pros, but the GPUs are traditionally lower specced as well.
So what's the best we can expect? Sub 3GHz, 'new, improved, cooler' C2D and GeForce 9400M + something less than 9600M GT ??
I think it's Apple starting rumours of 'maybe C2D' to dampen expectations. It's clear everyone is expecting quad cores and Apple needs to lower expectations, like when they went back to the old design for the iPod Nano, they made sure pictures got out early, so everyone would be over the fact that they used a retro design and focussed on what wasn't known - the accelerometer and new software...
I'm sad to say, I don't think we'll see any quad cores in iMacs this time around. If the MacBook Pros get quad cores later in the year, maybe then iMacs will get them.
Meanwhile, look forward to "look, shiny unibody design!" or its equivalent to take the heat off the lacklustre CPUs and GPUs.
Traditionally, iMacs have come in lower specced than MacBook Pros. That was the biggest disappointment of the October MacBook updates...
"look shiny new body... ignore that fact that you didn't get quad cores"
So on what planet does anybody expect the iMacs to be better specced than MacBook Pros and come with quad cores?
Don't get me wrong, nobody wants quad core iMacs more than me. And the longer Apple waits to update the iMac (the Al iMacs got their first update after 6 months, so they should have been updated again in AUGUST!), the higher expectations become.
Apple's desktop sales slumped over the last quarter because everyone is holding off for Mac Pro, iMac and Mini updates... all of which are WAY overdue and so far behind Windows machines available.
Back to iMacs - not only will the processors be lower specced than MacBook Pros, but the GPUs are traditionally lower specced as well.
So what's the best we can expect? Sub 3GHz, 'new, improved, cooler' C2D and GeForce 9400M + something less than 9600M GT ??
I think it's Apple starting rumours of 'maybe C2D' to dampen expectations. It's clear everyone is expecting quad cores and Apple needs to lower expectations, like when they went back to the old design for the iPod Nano, they made sure pictures got out early, so everyone would be over the fact that they used a retro design and focussed on what wasn't known - the accelerometer and new software...
I'm sad to say, I don't think we'll see any quad cores in iMacs this time around. If the MacBook Pros get quad cores later in the year, maybe then iMacs will get them.
Meanwhile, look forward to "look, shiny unibody design!" or its equivalent to take the heat off the lacklustre CPUs and GPUs.
Why do you say that iMacs come lower specced that MBPs?
The 24" imac can be outfitted with a 3.06ghz processor, the standard is 2.8ghz. All iMacs even the 20", have C2D processors with 6MB of L2 Cache.
Both the 15 and 17" MBP come standard with a lesser speed processor. The base 15" MBP at 2.4ghz has 3MB of L2 Cache versus 6MB on the base 20" 2.4ghz iMac. While the graphics aren't the greatest, all iMacs have dedicated graphics and usually the same options as those on the MBPs.
Quad core laptops are still a rare breed out in the wild. IIRC, Our company could only begin ordering of the 10lb+ monster Lenovo back in late October '08 with a 2-3 week turnaround. I'm not in the market for a monster notebook, but it would have been killer if Apple made a CTO option for a quad on the 17" MBP, even if the battery could only last say 3-4 hours versus 7.
On the other hand, quad-core desktops are out and have been for a long time. I think Dell even has an all-in-one with a quad core option.
iMac G5. White Intel iMacs.
We are talking about the high-end iMac vs. the high-end MacBook Pro right? Because it could be said that there's less expectation for the lower-end iMacs to have quad-core than the higher-end ones.
They didn't get quad-cores (or the Extreme dual-core) due to heat. The MacBook Pros got BTOs for the fastest 35 W CPUs available.
The planet where the iMac G5 was faster than the PowerBook G4, and where the 24" iMac were (and still are) better specced than the MacBook Pro. I have also heard that that planet is where the iMacs have better cooling than the MacBook Pros.
Not since they went to Intel (don't know about before).
LOL, the iMacs already have a 3.07 GHz CPU and a 8800 GS GPU. You expect them to downgrade in the high-end?
You have a point there…but that doesn't mean the iMacs will be worse specced than the MacBook Pros. Even with mobile dual-core, I'd say that Intel may be able to give Apple a "special" 3.33 GHz CPU.
You should add that one to your signature. Cause I think you're going to be waiting a long time.
Brrr.....?!?!
When have iMac been lower speced than the MacBookPro?
the low end maybe but the high end has generally been faster. Quite a bit faster at times. Like G5 iMac starting the infamous "G5 powerbook next tueday". iMac where early in the intel transition as well.
And then, there's the potential:
http://www.thestandard.com/news/2008/12/18/beginning-end-apple-imac
If you read this posting, with the current deep economic recession and the increasingly demanding power needs of the newest Intel CPU's, this could possibly spell an end to the entire iMac line.
I would not be surprised that Apple has a "fallback" position. The fallback position will go like this:
1) Apple phases out the iMac.
2) Apple releases what looks Mac Pro with about 1/3 to 1/2 the height of the Mac Pro, with six USB 2.0/3.0 connectors (four in back, two in front), two FireWire 400 ports (one in back and one in front) and two FireWire 800 ports (one in back and one in front). It will come with the current Apple Mac keyboard and the Mighty Mouse mouse pointer, both connected to the USB ports (as current iMac practice). The new machine will have either DVI-D or Mini DisplayPort connectors.
3) Apple gets out of the LCD display panel business (saving itself a lot of money!) and instead provides a common spec to monitor manufacturers like LG, NEC, Samsung, Viewsonic, etc. to provide "Apple certified" monitors that meet Apple's requirements for picture quality. The monitor manufacturers can stay with DVI-D connections, since the smaller tower Macs will include DVI-D monitor connections to keep the system cost down.
Why replace the iMac with a minitower machine? It would allow Apple to use more standardized parts and also with a minitower design, it may make it easier for proper CPU cooling, which may open the way for Apple to use the Core i7 CPU for these lower end machines and the Gainestown-core Xeon CPU for the high-end Mac Pro models.
http://www.thestandard.com/news/2008/12/18/beginning-end-apple-imac
If you read this posting, with the current deep economic recession and the increasingly demanding power needs of the newest Intel CPU's, this could possibly spell an end to the entire iMac line.
I would not be surprised that Apple has a "fallback" position. The fallback position will go like this:
1) Apple phases out the iMac.
2) Apple releases what looks Mac Pro with about 1/3 to 1/2 the height of the Mac Pro, with six USB 2.0/3.0 connectors (four in back, two in front), two FireWire 400 ports (one in back and one in front) and two FireWire 800 ports (one in back and one in front). It will come with the current Apple Mac keyboard and the Mighty Mouse mouse pointer, both connected to the USB ports (as current iMac practice). The new machine will have either DVI-D or Mini DisplayPort connectors.
3) Apple gets out of the LCD display panel business (saving itself a lot of money!) and instead provides a common spec to monitor manufacturers like LG, NEC, Samsung, Viewsonic, etc. to provide "Apple certified" monitors that meet Apple's requirements for picture quality. The monitor manufacturers can stay with DVI-D connections, since the smaller tower Macs will include DVI-D monitor connections to keep the system cost down.
Why replace the iMac with a minitower machine? It would allow Apple to use more standardized parts and also with a minitower design, it may make it easier for proper CPU cooling, which may open the way for Apple to use the Core i7 CPU for these lower end machines and the Gainestown-core Xeon CPU for the high-end Mac Pro models.
This makes so much sense, there's no way Apple will ever do it.
Seriously, I don't see this happening unless Steve Jobs is no longer calling the shots at Apple. It goes against his entire philosophy of self-contained products.
This makes so much sense, there's no way Apple will ever do it.
Seriously, I don't see this happening unless Steve Jobs is no longer calling the shots at Apple. It goes against his entire philosophy of self-contained products.
However, while Jobs may like the self-contained product idea, if the price of the resulting product costs too much money, that could put an end to the iMac as we know it. As such, Apple will need a fallback position to cover potential iMac users, and my suggested small tower machine (which may cost around US$700 to US$800 minus monitor) will likely cover the market that the iMac used to cater to.
Let me get what saying here.
Apple is going to kill one the worlds most recognizable computers and one of the recognized products around. For a box you put under the desk connected to a monitor that is as big as the iMac they just killed and doesn't carry their logo.
You think that makes sense?*
If Apple are going to use the i7 anywhere it will be in MacPro SP instead of the current SP which is the Xeon DP model missing one socket. Seeing after an update there would be just as much difference in between the Mobo's any way.
That might make sense and may allow a price drop on that model. Also that would fit with any information these guys may have heard that lead to a remarkably bad conclusion.
*ignoring all the technical reason they sight as most have been discussed and are non-issues in the end.
They may not have much of a choice, especially given how expensive the 24" iMac is nowadays. You can get a well-equipped Dell or HP computer with latest Core 2 Duo CPU's, 6 GB of RAM, 640 SATA-II hard drive, nVidia GeForce 9300 graphics, keyboard and mouse for just over US$1,000, and you can get a good 22-24" widescreen monitor for around US$300 more.
That's why I do see Apple having that "fallback" position (if necessary) of a minitower machine to replace the iMac given the current economic situation.