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Let's hope this iMac allows for RAM upgrades outside of Apple.

RAM upgrades for the iMac are easily available outside of apple (always have been), and the unit is designed to make this is as easy as possible - what's your point?

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Begs the question - how close (in performance) will these new iMacs be to some of the 'current' Mac Pros?

The current top end iMac already outperforms the current mac Pros, plus it has thunderbolt...
 
seriously? The overwhelming majority of people who will use this machine will do so with wifi. For those who do need Ethernet, there's a very reasonably priced Thunderbolt-Ethernet adaptor. The actual Ethernet plug is thicker than the body of the MBP, so it made perfect sense to ditch it.

I respect your opinion, however there is no way you can truly know what the vast majority of people's intended use of wifi vs ethernet is. You are essentially guessing. There are many instances where ethernet provides a significant advantage. IMO wifi has come a long way, however is not as reliable or nearly as fast as ethernet. Plain and simple. The old style macbook is not overly thick or heavy. All i'm saying is there was no need to remove the jack just to make the thinnest device possible. I'd rather the focus be on a better connected product rather than making it ultra slim. That's what the MBA is for. I understand there is a cable, but why the need for adapters? how many adapters do we need? I just don't see why Apple felt the need to differentiate the pro line. I felt they could have and probably should have made 1 single device that was converged. Feels like a step backwards is all i'm saying..
 
RAM upgrades for the iMac are easily available outside of apple (always have been), and the unit is designed to make this is as easy as possible - what's your point?

I think he's referring to the fact that the MBA and new retina MBP cannot have its RAM outside of Apple (soldered in).
 
It might be an old argument but you can't compare 27" 1080p display to high end 27" with1440p. Doesn't have to be Apple, even Dell and NEC sell them at similar price, and note that only Apple feature Thunderbolt hub on their display.

1080p for 27" is not high enough. Remember it's a monitor, not TV.

So yeah, it's quite fair to compare iMac vs MBP/A + Apple display.

Beat me to it but agreed. You can get A 27" monitor for $200 but not one that's remotely comparable to the Thunderbolt display at that price.

Now you could invest $300 or so and get a solid 22-24" display that would do you fairly well, but if we're talking apples to apples (no pun intended) then there's some more cash needed.

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Auto desk have already committed to making a retina autocad, and the same with adobe!
Surely you can wait to upgrade if you need all your apps looking amazing!

That's two. Adobe has said there's a version of Photoshop in the works but haven't mentioned After Effects, Illustrator, Flash, and other that I use on a daily basis. Autodesk hasn't mentioned Maya that I use on a daily basis. If there's a timeline for those then that's one thing, but right now we have no idea.
 
I have a serious question for iMac users (a.k.a. I'm not trying to troll). Why do you prefer an iMac (all-in-one) to something else such as a Mac Mini or Mac Pro? Do you feel the Mac Mini isn't suitable for your computing needs and a Mac Pro is too expensive?
Personally, I wouldn't want computer parts connected to such a beautiful screen because I feel like the parts would become obsolete way before the screen ever did. I'm just curious what your reasoning is

I Hate Cables! :eek:
 
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The current top end iMac already outperforms the current mac Pros, plus it has thunderbolt...

Only the entry level model.

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Does anyone know the exact dimensions of the rumoured iMac? I want to smack a hole in my living room wall to put one in and there is a special offer on sledge hammers this weekend at Lidl.

30.2237 inches. Swing that sledge hammer! :rolleyes:
 
That's two. Adobe has said there's a version of Photoshop in the works but haven't mentioned After Effects, Illustrator, Flash, and other that I use on a daily basis. Autodesk hasn't mentioned Maya that I use on a daily basis. If there's a timeline for those then that's one thing, but right now we have no idea.

gets me to wonder how non-retina-optimised software actually looks on the new retina-MBP? Fuzzy, clear buttons and not so readable text, scrollbar sharper than the image your working in photoshop? :confused:
 
Hey all, long time lurker new to the forums. I have a 2007 MBP that's still running well, but I'm ever so patiently waiting to upgrade to an iMac. Like many here, I am hoping for a quiet release when ML comes out.

I was considering upgrading to the retina MBP before it got officially announced, but was somewhat disappointed with it. This is not meant to trash the retina MBP, it is a very nice machine but for that price i just cannot justify what is being offered. Lack of ethernet is beyond me. I know many will say it's not needed today, but to me that's simply untrue, and a big omission. Addition of HDMI is nice as well as the usb 3. As far as the retina, maybe i'm in the minority but I just don't see the need on a 15" screen. Am i nuts here? We're all ok with 1080p TV's 40" and up, but we must have this resolution on a 15 inch screen? Yes i'd like to see a retina iMac but I won't mind if it doesn't have it. Maybe next year apple will rethink the ram, ssd and battery design, and make them replaceable. Then, we'd be talking about a killer machine.

Sorry for the rant, just had to get that out! I'm not a huge fan of rev 1 products as you can see, so a quiet update to the iMac will suit me just fine. If it gets redesigned next year so be it. I'll wait until it becomes finely tuned and the displays become more cost effective before going down that road. Here's hoping that a iMac release date is fairly imminent...

For all those worried about Ethernet, apple has an adapter that will make that possible, so if you need it on a portable, you can get it.
 
Interesting that it's only got 4GB or RAM...

You should run a RAM useage monitor while you work to see how much RAM you normally use. You will be very surprised. Unless you're a power user editing video, audio, or running too many apps at one time, you will seldom see the meter go over 4GB.
 
For those of you who are anxiously awaiting an update of the iMac, I have a different question: why? What does it do for you that a MacBook Pro and a display would do for you?

I don't see any features that the iMac has that the MacBook doesn't have. Please educate me.

I have a several year old iMac that had its hard disk fail. Repairing it was such a miserable task that I just decided to run off an external disk as my main disk. Grrr. With the MacBook Pro (not Air or Retina), maintenance is easy and I wouldn't have has a problem replacing the hard disk.

Unless there is something I am missing here, I cannot imagine buying another iMac.

There are more than a few reasons, but the most obvious is the Cinema Display + MBP costs more than 2x what an equivalently spec'd iMac would cost...

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As far as the retina, maybe i'm in the minority but I just don't see the need on a 15" screen. Am i nuts here? .

Most of us don't spend 6+ hours a day reading our TV screens, but many people do with their computer. The other need is for people editing HD video to have enough screen real-estate in a portable machine.

Maybe you don't use a computer for work or spend a lot of time with one. In that case, maybe this model is not for you.
 
I would love to know why my post on page 1 upset so many people? Genuinely curious about this. :confused:

I don't see why either man. That's a pretty heavy amount of down voting considering the content.
Maybe the royalties part?:confused: Even though it was obviously tongue and cheek. I mean if it's not that I don't have any idea. Even then it's hard to understand.
Sometimes I think one vote attracts more down votes. Like a moth to a flame. My guess is, at times folks may even down vote without reading just to watch the number grow because they find it humorous.
 
I'm very curious myself and we have almost no indication at this point. Based on the Chrome v Safari comparison that was done at The Verge it may not be pretty.

Thanks for the links - eye-opening!
and on the other side:
Since Schiller said that it's sharper than printed on paper I assume output on paper might give printer companies headaches as soon as people start complaining about the output quality looking worse on the proof... :D
 
We don't buy to wait for something to break down..you have to send it for repair anyhow son what difference does it make for the UPS man to pickup a iMac or macbook?

Major benefits; screen size (duh)
Cooling
Faster than MacBooks
Cheaper
I/O

Buy a Dell 27" IPS monitor, or a Samsung, for $600? Then attach it to the macbook pro. The older config pros can have their RAM and disks changed by users ... they don't have screen heat issues. And you can take them with you.

There are even nice Thunderbolt docks too ...
 
Prediction will be new iMac's same day as Mountain Lion Release.

Combo will be used to pump up sales and interest in both the hardware and software.
 
I am wondering if new mac book air with HD 4000 graphics or 13" mac book pro with same graphics will be powerful enough to use with 27" retina thunderbolt ????
I don't see how it can be fast enough to support that kind of resolution...
btw, why can't I have GeForce GT 650m graphic as an option in 13" macbook pro ??? GRRRR
 
You can always return it, but honestly your computer is awesome.

Have to agree with this. I spent this weekend doing a couple projects on my 2010 27" iMac, and I STILL get impressed with what I can do and the ease with which I can do it. Really, unless the software stops working, the rest is gravy. These updates are rarely essential. Any 27" iMac bought today will be awesome for quite some time.
 
I don't see why either man. That's a pretty heavy amount of down voting considering the content.
Maybe the royalties part?:confused: Even though it was obviously tongue and cheek. I mean if it's not that I don't have any idea. Even then it's hard to understand.
Sometimes I think one vote attracts more down votes. Like a moth to a flame. My guess is, at times folks may even down vote without reading just to watch the number grow because they find it humorous.

It was definitely a joke. Hence the faux mad face. Oh well. I would have loved to discuss the possibility of the iMac with a vibrating pen interface, but there does not seem to be any interest. Tough crowd.
 
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I would have loved to discuss the possibility of the iMac with a vibrating pen interface, but there does not seem to be any interest. Tough crowd.
I think it is a fantastic idea personally. It would be nice to have something built in to take the place of a cintiq.
 
You should run a RAM useage monitor while you work to see how much RAM you normally use. You will be very surprised. Unless you're a power user editing video, audio, or running too many apps at one time, you will seldom see the meter go over 4GB.

Or doing stats or playing games. Good luck using STATA on large data sets with only 4GB of ram.
 
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