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What if.... a new iMac was introduced in June, pre-loaded with both Tiger and a well hidden version of Leopard. On the Leopard release date, Apple sends a signal to all similarly equipped new iMacs, and they are automatically switched to Leopard (if the owner elects) and the computer automatically snags all the updates to the latest version of Leopard. That way, Apple could sell new iMacs all summer, and people purchasing them would not have to wonder what will happen, or if they will have to purchase a Leopard disc. On the other hand, I wonder how long it would take enterprising folks to hack the Leopard hiding in the hard drive? Probably not in excess of, what, 45 seconds?
 
What if.... a new iMac was introduced in June, pre-loaded with both Tiger and a well hidden version of Leopard. On the Leopard release date, Apple sends a signal to all similarly equipped new iMacs, and they are automatically switched to Leopard (if the owner elects) and the computer automatically snags all the updates to the latest version of Leopard. That way, Apple could sell new iMacs all summer, and people purchasing them would not have to wonder what will happen, or if they will have to purchase a Leopard disc. On the other hand, I wonder how long it would take enterprising folks to hack the Leopard hiding in the hard drive? Probably not in excess of, what, 45 seconds?

*Throws water on APPLENEWBIE*

Or they could give out free updates to anyone purchasing a new Mac between the original ship date and the delayed October one.
 
Or they could give out free updates to anyone purchasing a new Mac between the original ship date and the delayed October one.

There never was an original Leopard ship date. But I suppose since Apple had originaly said "Spring" you could argue that any purchase after June 21 would fall into this group.
 
How would this benefit Apple? There's nothing in it for them. The theory behind this is to expand Apple's marketshare, but like the Clone program, all it'd be doing is cannibalising Apple's sales.
The iPod, iPhone and other commodity hardware is taking over the main business in Apple, products with a close connection between the hard- and software.

Steve has stated before that Apple is moving more into software development and licensing osx to OEM's is a logical step, there is much more money to be made in licensing osX than selling cheap PC hardware. More and more PC's cost less than the iPhone so Mac hardware is losing its importance as a money maker.
 
Well considering how lackluster the recent Mac Pro and MacBook updates were i'm not really expecting much for the iMac or Mini - especially the Mini.
 
freddiecable said:
is this true? thought it was more hacking to it than use an apple cd install on dell-laptop... Well, I for one believe apple is strong enough to licence it to certain pc-retailers - like dell, hp etc.

How would this benefit Apple? There's nothing in it for them. The theory behind this is to expand Apple's marketshare, but like the Clone program, all it'd be doing is cannibalising Apple's sales.

That depends; every OS sold for a competitor’s hardware does not necessarily translate into a lost Mac sale. Given the lack of a mid-range Mac tower I suspect there are plenty of consumers who would prefer to run OSX but don’t want to settle for hardware that doesn’t meet their needs and/or pay extra for hardware they don’t need.

On a side note from an environmental standpoint, I’d really like to see Apple come up with a way for iMac users to upgrade without having to ditch their monitor.
 
What if.... a new iMac was introduced in June, pre-loaded with both Tiger and a well hidden version of Leopard. On the Leopard release date, Apple sends a signal to all similarly equipped new iMacs, and they are automatically switched to Leopard (if the owner elects) and the computer automatically snags all the updates to the latest version of Leopard. That way, Apple could sell new iMacs all summer, and people purchasing them would not have to wonder what will happen, or if they will have to purchase a Leopard disc. On the other hand, I wonder how long it would take enterprising folks to hack the Leopard hiding in the hard drive? Probably not in excess of, what, 45 seconds?

Remember when Apple charged people to unlock the 802.11n cards in their macs? They had to charge because it was a feature that they did not advertise at the time of sale. People "discovering" Leopard on their computer would be pleasantly surprised... until they had to pay to activate it... then it would just be an annoyance. If Apple is going to do some sort of a program to support sales of Macs pre-Leopard, it'll be vouchers as always.

-Clive
 
You mean Apple will copy Windows?

Will still be in the form factor having a chin, but the area of the chin will carry a second small screen (about 3" X width of imac) that will house the dock, and a bunch of widgets.

"Windows SideShow is a new technology in Windows Vista that supports a secondary screen on your mobile [or other] PC. With this additional display you can view important information whether your laptop is on, off, or in sleep mode. Windows SideShow is available in Windows Vista Home Premium, Windows Vista Business, Windows Vista Enterprise, and Windows Vista Ultimate.

Windows SideShow uses gadgets, convenient mini programs, to extend information from your computer to other devices. Gadgets can run on a Windows SideShow–compatible device and update that device with information from your computer. Using a gadget, you can view information from your computer regardless of whether your mobile PC is on, off, or in the sleep power state—which can save you both time and battery life."​

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/details/sideshow.mspx
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2713
 
Don't be haters....;)

This is Mac RUMORS!!!:eek:

Doesn't that kind of let the Site guys off the hook???:)

It's not MacFACTS.com.:rolleyes:

A place where we get to vent... and throw our knowledge and opinions around like pigeons playing street hockey with oversized wedge-cut french fries?:eek:

And what ever happened to the rumor about the 30" imac???:D
 
Except that the CPU, chipset, and GPU are now all obsolete. Especially the slow as molasses 1600 mobility.

Agreed. The GPU in the iMac is one of the two reasons it isn't good enough. Not only do I want to be able to play StarCraft2 when it comes out, but I also will want to play new games for the next 3 years without having to scale down the graphics settings to 6 polygons per object... like my current iMac.

Playing even old games (like the original UT) are an embarassment on that computer... granted I'm trying to play it through a third-party OSX port.

Okay, I'll give it SOME credit... it can run WarCraft III "alright" although it takes a long time to do anything. I fed it more RAM and everything. The point is, it struggles on games its own age.

It would have to be either five or six inches thick or you'd have to live in a freezer. A medium end GPU is pushing in in an all in one. A high end GPU is impossible without a revolutionary breakthrough in cooling technology.

Yes, a breakthrough in cooling technology... OR EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT MORE THAN COMPLETE APATHY ON THE PART OF GPU-MAKERS!!!!!!!!! Come on, people! If CPU-makers can put so much emphasis on performance per watt and achieve great things, why can't GPU makers? The newest GPUs are like Hummers. Beastly machines with 2MPG city-milage. There is no good reason why there aren't decent middle-of-the-road energy-saver GPUs.

Good grief. It's all algorythms anyway. Can't someone design a chip that optimizes processing of code for 3D engines? Either that, or programmers should learn how to freaking write using Quaternion mathematics and correlated parametric functions. That'll save code space and processing power. Otherwise, it's up to the chip-makers.

If Santa Rosa's 975 chipset is at least of decent quality, props to Intel for leading the way with a energy-conscious design.

-Clive
 
Multi-touch

If the new iMacs introduce Multi-touch, one way is to introduce a touch sensitive mouse pad and replace the mouse. Other companies have introduced keyboards with a built-in 2X2 inch trackpad to replace the mouse. Apple could go one step forward and replace the mouse all together with a new iTouch.
 
Yes, a breakthrough in cooling technology... OR EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT MORE THAN COMPLETE APATHY ON THE PART OF GPU-MAKERS!!!!!!!!! Come on, people! If CPU-makers can put so much emphasis on performance per watt and achieve great things, why can't GPU makers? The newest GPUs are like Hummers. Beastly machines with 2MPG city-milage. There is no good reason why there aren't decent middle-of-the-road energy-saver GPUs.
-Clive

They could use the mobile version of the 8800 should one ever be announced, but $6-700 upgrade price would not be unreasonable if not more. Personally I'm hoping all the new (dedicated graphics) iMacs have a MXM card so we can at least have choices.
 
I find the comment about the 24" LCD screen interesting, given all the issues and complaints I have seen surrounding the 24" iMac screens. Are the 24" going to be assembled in China? If they are, I'd wait a while before buying....
As a matter of fact, I believe the class action lawsuit mentioned earlier on this website is mainly from the 24" iMac, in particular their screens.....

Rich :cool:
 
where have updates for iMacs and Minis been anyway.

The same place the MB and MBPro updates have been. Since MacMinis and iMacs pretty much use laptop motherboards, etc., it's natural to expect updates to the iMac when its portable counterpart (the MBPro) arrive.

**Yes I do think that the iMac is the desktop equivelant of the MBPro. Why? Regardless of packaging, they come with the same CPU options (2.33 is an upgrade to 20"/23" iMacs), motherboards, GPUs, and memory. And also, that the MacMini is the desktop equivelant to the MacBook. The MPro sits above all others for various reasons, as many of you geekier types know: different motherboards (with expansion slots), different CPUs (Xeon quad- and octo-core), and memory, etc.

I do think it would be cool if they offered a Mac Pro "lite" to bridge that gap between iMac and Mac Pro. I'd like to be able to upgrade Vid Cards, etc without having to replace an entire machine. A little more processor power, faster, more advanced bus, and the ability to self-upgrade would be fan-****ing-tastic (it sucks how anti-first Amendment this forum is)
 
Steve has back-tracked so many times, his car has 3 gears in reverse

Steve made his displeasure know for pointing devices at MacWorld in January. I can't see him back tracking.

"Nobody wants to watch video on a iPod..."
"You can't mount the CD drive vertically in the iMac screen..."
"OSX will be optimized for the Bondi iMac..."


Let's start the list ;)
 
Hugh,

Oh I don't know about that. I my self have tried the tricks that are out there on how to install Mac OS X on non-Apple hardware.

Before you say it. (Yes but some people have done it). That is true but that is such a small number who have really figured this out. Or I my self is too dumb to figure it out? :confused:

Hugh

<Star Trek humor> Perhaps since you left the collective, there may be an element of truth to that? </end Star Trek humor>

Just kidding. I agree, most people won't bother. However the hardcore switchers will be lost. I am all for a Windows-like registration to reduce piracy of the Mac OS, as long as Apple is reasonable about it. I'd guess that in 10.5 or fairly soon, they'll have to have it in there if they don't want to lose big $.
 




What he said.

The chin gives the iMac it's personality! I don't want my computer to look like a display! (Sure, the "Woah, where's the computer?" Comments would be cool. But the current design already does that, as well as the mini)

that's a point... I do like it better when it looks at least a little bit like a computer...
 
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