iMac Update Slated For Late June

I think that black mock up is probably really close. It looks great.

At the end of the day there's only so much you can do with the design of an 'all in one' computer based on a flat panel. Slimming it down further and matching the design to the iPhone feels highly likely.
 
Not a bad model at all when Dell sells a lot more computers than Apple but MS taking all the profit on these machines, not Dell. Apple offered to license osX for free to the $100 laptop project, this proves they are more than thinking about OEM licensing osX.

Hell froze over many times already and pigs are flying at least a few years. It's not a big deal anymore and just the next logical step for Apple and the OS to take.

NEXT moved from hardware to a full software company in the '90's, i don't see why this trend would stop when the same people now work at Apple.

I love the way you twist all the facts to try and make a coherent argument.

It is not a logical step. I said it's a poor model for the consumer, it's good economic model for MS for now, but I don't think it can be easily repeated like everyone seems to make out.

NeXT moved to a full software company because they couldn't make money out of their hardware. They didn't have much more success out making money from their software either.
 
I do mix everything up but you have to agree that content and software has become very important and that Apple now has the opportunity and strength to grow much bigger. I see lots of tidbits everywhere that point into licensing or opening up there software to other hardware but we'll have to wait and see if i'm wrong or not.
 
OSX on non-apple products, not in this century

Apple will NEVER release it's OS to run on other hardware, ever. it would destroy what makes apple apple. here's why:

1. Stability. Apple claims it just works, why? because with a very limited set of hardware components, they can make it work without (many) hicups. windows has hicups because it works with ANY hardware, graphics cards, chipsets, ram with different speed, or any "specialized" hardware needed (like operating a specific scientific instrument or machine) with each of these potentially made by multiple different manufacturers. OSX would loose it's "it just works" edge.

2. Hardware Design. Like it or not, apple sells computers in a large part due to aesthetics. they will not drop this advantage so third party OEMs will put OSX on some ugly beige tower. they put alot, i mean alot, of effort into design, and it has definitely paid off.

3. Money. If apple thought they would make more money this way, then they would. Apple is making alot of money now, and it is through both hardware and software (being able to charge a higher price for hardware because it comes with good software).

but what do i know. i think apple is happy being below 10% market share. it allows their customers to feel special (elite). it allows other company's to front the bill for pushing new technology and working out the kinks. and when you are on top (like windows) you have everyone looking, mocking, and pointing out your mistakes.

just my $0.02, and with the price of copper rising, we might soon lose the ability to give out $0.02.
 
Could you do this image with a white background? It would be so much clearer. I prefer white macs anyways, and i like the current look. But choice is always a good thing.

I think on a white background you wouldn't see the outline too well. But here's a white one for you.

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Note: I didn't mean to claim any credit for the original concept - that file just showed up on imageshack one day... :cool:
 
I think on a white background you wouldn't see the outline too well. But here's a white one for you.
I think the idea was to have a black mac on a white background and not a white mac on a black background like you're showing above or a black mac on a black background from the previous picture....
 
Apple will NEVER release it's OS to run on other hardware, ever. it would destroy what makes apple apple. here's why:

1. Stability. Apple claims it just works, why? because with a very limited set of hardware components, they can make it work without (many) hicups. windows has hicups because it works with ANY hardware, graphics cards, chipsets, ram with different speed, or any "specialized" hardware needed (like operating a specific scientific instrument or machine) with each of these potentially made by multiple different manufacturers. OSX would loose it's "it just works" edge.

Not so much anymore. Apple has to be able to support 80% of what the windows world does in terms of currently sold hardware. It's a much newer operating system and handles those drivers in a better fashion

2. Hardware Design. Like it or not, apple sells computers in a large part due to aesthetics. they will not drop this advantage so third party OEMs will put OSX on some ugly beige tower. they put alot, i mean alot, of effort into design, and it has definitely paid off.

Actually, the iPod and the notebooks have paid off. With the desktops, they have placed themselves in a position where the world's best operating system is only available to a very small portion of the market that strongly favors a good looking design over practicality.

3. Money. If apple thought they would make more money this way, then they would. Apple is making alot of money now, and it is through both hardware and software (being able to charge a higher price for hardware because it comes with good software).

Apple is in no danger of losing customers, except for some switchers. Most Modern Mac users come to Apple because they want something different. The number of us old school Mac users is dwindling anyway.

but what do i know. i think apple is happy being below 10% market share. it allows their customers to feel special (elite). it allows other company's to front the bill for pushing new technology and working out the kinks. and when you are on top (like windows) you have everyone looking, mocking, and pointing out your mistakes.

just my $0.02, and with the price of copper rising, we might soon lose the ability to give out $0.02.

Is Microsoft really the one with the spotlight on it anymore? With Microsoft You know what you have. With Apple you have an empire built on a music player. If the iPod starts to loose favor, Apple's profits and stock price would fall as rapidly as they rose. They need something solid and that is a large and vibrant Mac community. Apple is too eccentric to achieve that.
 
Agreed, Apple always wanted to be the biggest computer maker. I see no reason why they would prefer 10% over 90% of the market. :rolleyes:
 
Here's the OS X on generic hardware debacle once again.

Until a rather unfortunate Mason in Cupertino is asked to engrave "Steven P. Jobs" into a rather elaborate slab of white granite, you won't see OS X on Generic PC Box #243. The premium you pay on Apple stuff is for two things - superior design and OS X. You put OS X on generic PC boxes and soon enough both those advantages fall away.

Just think - can you ever, ever see yourself logging onto apple.com and seeing "Make the switch for less. OS X. Now available for Mac + PC." on the front page? Can you really envisage that ever happening? That, to me, will come along with "Designed by Apple in Redmond - Two great companies, one new conglomerate" and "Introducing the all-new PowerMac G6, cooled by harnessing the power of the moon. Only $4999 for 2.9GHz."
 
may it be a frameless iMac 20" - 24", hidden iSight..

may it be touch-screen keyboard, that contains the CHIP, RAM, optical drive... and a little flash-based instant HD, then the processed info will be updated and stored in the HDD, which locates inside the monitor outfit.

may it be fully synchronised with iPhone (so the iPhone could operate iMac remotely..

may it be
 

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An interesting idea - I think iPhone/Mac integration will be lethal in Leopard with any Mac, but also I'd say that keyboards really do need some sort of tactile feedback.
 
may it be a frameless iMac 20" - 24", hidden iSight..

may it be touch-screen keyboard, that contains the CHIP, RAM, optical drive... and a little flash-based instant HD, then the processed info will be updated and stored in the HDD, which locates inside the monitor outfit.

may it be fully synchronised with iPhone (so the iPhone could operate iMac remotely..

may it be

Even if Multi-touch was a total gimmick, this thing would be huge. Also, wasn't there a patent about some sort of tactile feedback being possible like a bumpy screen that can "click".
 
Here's the OS X on generic hardware debacle once again.

Until a rather unfortunate Mason in Cupertino is asked to engrave "Steven P. Jobs" into a rather elaborate slab of white granite, you won't see OS X on Generic PC Box #243. The premium you pay on Apple stuff is for two things - superior design and OS X. You put OS X on generic PC boxes and soon enough both those advantages fall away.

The old misperception again, Steve Jobs has no hard sentiment to keep the OS on in-house developed hardware or design.
Some facts:
- Steve wanted to license System 6 to other manufacturers but Apple didn't do it because they believed the Mac was so good it didn't need to.
- Pippin game/media console was only available in licensing, no Apple hardware.
- NEXT was made available for licensing on many architectures
- After the move from NEXT to Apple Steven kept working on his Sony Vaio, not a Mac for some time.
- The Mac uses more and more generally available PC components, de big difference is using laptop parts for the iMac/Mini and outstanding case design. Some Dell laptops have exactly the same internals as the Mac Mini.
- free osX license offer for the $100 laptop project (if accepted it would make for a zillion extra users but it was rejected)
- Current Macs have no hardware protection to prevent osX to run on non-Mac hardware, that won't change when Leopard hits the market.

Apple really can't say no to this massive growth opportunity, its just how and when. We'll know at WWDC with the feature complete Beta of Leopard! :)

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No this is terrible news. THERE NOT UPDATING THE 17 inch model!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo im in the market for the 17inch model THIs sucks aLOT!
 
the monitor_is_a_keyboard is not something new, as LG has it as dual OLED monitor laptop concept couple months ago already..
 

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Well, with the Mac, Apple did away with the 5.25" floppy.

Then, with the iMac, they got rid of the floppy altogether.

Then, they got rid of the CRT.

What's next, the mouse?:eek:
 
iMac / Apple newbie help with new models...please

Hi Folks,

This is my very first post here! In the midst of making a transition from Windows to Mac, returned a Dell XPS system 3 weeks ago after fighting and getting frustrated with Vista,..... @#$%^&*.... you get the idea, I hope. I have wanted macs for ... as long as I could remember.:apple: So, now as soon as I got my refund from Dell last Saturday, I went on last Sunday and ordered my iMac 20" (2GB RAM; 256 MB ATI; WL KB and M; Apple Care; 1 to 1; .Mac;, and iWorks) and slept well that night. :))):) :D :apple:

Then on Monday night, saw the post here about this thread and like at 11:30 p.m., someone snatched the part of the earth underneath my feet. :-(( :confused: :mad: Thinking now I am stuck with this iMac after spending close to $2500.00, by the time I get used to and setup my machine the new iMac's will be relased, could not sleep at all! :-((( Finally managed to get the returns taken care of yesterday evening and now I AM WAITING for this announcement, ESPECIALLY SINCE I THE $ PUT ASIDE, at least mentally. :))) :)

Any insight into how accurate and / or credible these rumors / buzz / inside scoop is OR has been in the past especially from Apple's standpoint. Is it worth waiting the extra time, since I have now gone through the hassles of retuning again and again when I had made up my mind and am READY (for the last month or so now). Is June 15th like the ultimate end for any announcements of this magnitude or can one expect something major like this to come up even after the end of WWDC and October with the Leopard launch?:confused: :apple:

Any thoughts, insight, help, guidance would be greatly appreciated, since I am Brand New to the Apple World, have been more looking out via the Windows world till now and my eyes and brian are itching with all the #$%^&*.... Based on the trigger for this thread, how long should one wait before going out and buying their iMac's (20" for me). I currently have set a deadline of June 20th and then I'm going shopping again to the Apple Store / online, doesn't matter what rumors are out then??

Thanks a bunch! :apple:
 
I think the idea was to have a black mac on a white background and not a white mac on a black background like you're showing above or a black mac on a black background from the previous picture....

Yes, but as I mentioned a white iMac on a white background with a white border ... wouldn't show up too well.

An interesting idea - I think iPhone/Mac integration will be lethal in Leopard with any Mac

I wonder if AT&T will be pissed if you can make free VOIP calls from any Leopard machine you walk by.

What's next, the mouse?:eek:

Apple giveth, and Apple taketh away. ;)
 
Hi Folks,

This is my very first post here! In the midst of making a transition from Windows to Mac, returned a Dell XPS system 3 weeks ago after fighting and getting frustrated with Vista,..... @#$%^&*.... you get the idea, I hope. I have wanted macs for ... as long as I could remember.:apple: So, now as soon as I got my refund from Dell last Saturday, I went on last Sunday and ordered my iMac 20" (2GB RAM; 256 MB ATI; WL KB and M; Apple Care; 1 to 1; .Mac;, and iWorks) and slept well that night. :))):) :D :apple:

Then on Monday night, saw the post here about this thread and like at 11:30 p.m., someone snatched the part of the earth underneath my feet. :-(( :confused: :mad: Thinking now I am stuck with this iMac after spending close to $2500.00, by the time I get used to and setup my machine the new iMac's will be relased, could not sleep at all! :-((( Finally managed to get the returns taken care of yesterday evening and now I AM WAITING for this announcement, ESPECIALLY SINCE I THE $ PUT ASIDE, at least mentally. :))) :)

Any insight into how accurate and / or credible these rumors / buzz / inside scoop is OR has been in the past especially from Apple's standpoint. Is it worth waiting the extra time, since I have now gone through the hassles of retuning again and again when I had made up my mind and am READY (for the last month or so now). Is June 15th like the ultimate end for any announcements of this magnitude or can one expect something major like this to come up even after the end of WWDC and October with the Leopard launch?:confused: :apple:

Any thoughts, insight, help, guidance would be greatly appreciated, since I am Brand New to the Apple World, have been more looking out via the Windows world till now and my eyes and brian are itching with all the #$%^&*.... Based on the trigger for this thread, how long should one wait before going out and buying their iMac's (20" for me). I currently have set a deadline of June 20th and then I'm going shopping again to the Apple Store / online, doesn't matter what rumors are out then??

Thanks a bunch! :apple:

Don't fret it. I don't think it'll be life changing anyway.

You still have a kickass computer.
 
That's life in the fashion world

Hi Any thoughts, insight, help, guidance would be greatly appreciated

If it's a minor update, you'll be fine.

If the Lord God Jobs and Archangel Ives come out with a completely redesigned system though, yours will be instantly out-of-style. Everyone will point at you and laugh behind your back at having an outdated system. Your mother will no longer mention your name during bridge games.

Your boyfriend will leave you, your dog will lift his leg and pee on you while you're surfing, and your cat will run away.
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On the other hand, if your computer is just a tool, it'll work just as well as it did the day before Apple made it obsolete.
 
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