iMac With 10-Core M4 Chip Supports 8K Display at 60Hz [Updated]

[kreasu_]

I hope it can finally do full hdr 120hz 4k

 

[Bustycat]

How is that possible? Thunderbolt 4 has a maximum speed of 40gb/s. 8K 120hz needs close to 120gb/s.
hdmi 2.1 only supports 48gb/s and that's enough for 8k 60hz.
maybe through 2 or 3 cables

Display Stream Compression (DSC)

 

[radus]

Wifi 6E not wifi 7 really ?

 

[munpip214]

How is that possible? Thunderbolt 4 has a maximum speed of 40gb/s. 8K 120hz needs close to 120gb/s.
hdmi 2.1 only supports 48gb/s and that's enough for 8k 60hz.
maybe through 2 or 3 cables

Maybe that is it. The 10 code iMac variety has 4 thunderbolt 4 ports while the 8 core only has 2

 

[CalMin]

Also 2x external monitor support for the M4.
Why isn't anybody talking about it?

I commented on this in a different thread.

Yeah - this could be a game changer for MacBooks. If this comes to the Air, I think I'll be switching from 14" MBP to 15" MacBook Air. The M2 MacBook Air crushed my business workflow and can handle the sort of light 4K video editing that I do. It's all the Mac I need. Sure the display tech is inferior, but my aging eyes prefer the extra screen space without the bulk and weight of the 16" MacBook Pro.

 

[capamac]

Fascinating and extremely detailed report on display resolution:

Steve Yedlin, ASC - Resolution Demo

yedlin.net

The author argues 4k is greatly overrated, and that 2k is sufficient.

 

[taeclee99]

When configured with a 10-core M4 chip, the new iMac announced today supports up to an 8K external display at 120Hz, or up to two 6K displays at 60Hz each. The impressive feat was noted by Vadim Yuryev, co-host of the YouTube channel Max Tech.

This means the latest iMac is the first-ever Mac to support an 8K display at 120Hz, beating out higher-end models like the MacBook Pro, Mac Studio, and Mac Pro. Apple is expected to announce new MacBook Pro models with M4 Pro and M4 Max chips as early as tomorrow, however, so support for an 8K display at 120Hz could be expanded soon.

Apple doesn't even offer an 8K display with a 120Hz refresh rate — at least not yet. Apple's higher-end Pro Display XDR monitor has a 6K resolution at 60Hz, while its lower-end Studio Display monitor has a 5K resolution at 60Hz.

Does the iMac's external display support hint at future 120Hz versions of the Pro Display XDR or Studio Display? There are no concrete rumors yet.

The previous iMac with the M3 chip supports one external display at up to 6K/60Hz, and this remains true for the latest base model with the 8-core M4 chip.

For more details about the new iMac, read our earlier coverage of Apple's announcement.

In the U.S., pricing for the iMac with a 10-core M4 chip starts at $1,499.

Article Link: iMac With 10-Core M4 Chip is First Mac to Support 8K Display at 120Hz

Why no ProMotion display on the iMac?

 

[Pressure]

How is that possible? Thunderbolt 4 has a maximum speed of 40gb/s. 8K 120hz needs close to 120gb/s.
hdmi 2.1 only supports 48gb/s and that's enough for 8k 60hz.
maybe through 2 or 3 cables

DP Alt mode over USB-C, DSC or USB4 V2, which would enable 120Gbps in one direction.

 

[bushman4]

Where’s the. 27” ????
Apple making what they want. Not what we want

 

[SnooChickens6278]

F**k me. My worst nightmare is coming true. Just dropped 2 grand on the Apple studio display, and this proves now the stage is set for future Apple monitor releases @ 120Hz. F**K!! I can totally see them releasing a new monitor along side the Mac Studio next year. Turns out you don’t need thunderbolt 5 for 120hz. Just need a more powerful CPU hence the M4. F**K!!

 

[kiranmk2]

How is that possible? Thunderbolt 4 has a maximum speed of 40gb/s. 8K 120hz needs close to 120gb/s.
hdmi 2.1 only supports 48gb/s and that's enough for 8k 60hz.
maybe through 2 or 3 cables

Display Stream Compression (DSC)

Maybe that is it. The 10 code iMac variety has 4 thunderbolt 4 ports while the 8 core only has 2

I'm guessing this uses USB4v2.0 which can send DP at 80 Gbps bidirectionally and can switch to asymmetric mode and send 120 Gbps.

USB 4's 80 Gbps Spec Released Alongside New Logos

The new 80 Gbps USB standard is now official

www.tomshardware.com

edit: argh - just beaten to it!

 

[Bustycat]

I'm guessing this uses USB4v2.0 which can send DP at 80 Gbps bidirectionally and can switch to asymmetric mode and send 120 Gbps.

USB 4's 80 Gbps Spec Released Alongside New Logos

The new 80 Gbps USB standard is now official

www.tomshardware.com

edit: argh - just beaten to it!

• Thunderbolt 4 (up to 40Gb/s)
• USB 4 (up to 40Gb/s)

Definitely DisplayPort 2.1a with DSC to compress down to below 40Gb/s

 

[Maigrais]

That’s insane!! 1st in the industry. Too bad the displays are elusive. I wonder what tomorrow will bring.

 

[apparatchik]

TCL introduced a couple last year

TCL unveils 27-inch 8K, 65-inch 8K 120Hz OLED, and 57-inch 8K 240Hz mega PC gaming monitor

TCL teases a bunch of new gaming monitors, including a 27-inch 8K panel, 65-inch 8K OLED, and a monster 57-inch 8K 240Hz Mini-LED gaming monitor.

www.tweaktown.com

Are they actually for sale anywhere?

 

[Liminal75]

256gb base storage LOOOOL

 

[jarman92]

The iMac largely remains a flawed product for my standards.
I'm enthusiastic because I'll be able to drive 2 portable monitors with a 13" Air.

Just because it isn’t the right product for you doesn’t mean it’s “flawed.”

 

[Smoovejayy]

Studio Display

The 27-inch 5K Retina Studio Display is the perfect Mac creative partner — with 12MP Center Stage camera, three studio-quality mics, and six speakers

www.apple.com

I think that’s why they probably aren’t doing a 27” iMac. They already sell a $1500 27” display which people can then spend additional money on a computer. There’s your 27” iMac lol

 

[eatrains]

8K resolution gets you to a 41" display.

 

[Zest28]

Who needs 120hz on a MAC? Are you using Mac's as gaming PC's?

 

[jarman92]

256gb base storage LOOOOL

LOOOOL guess we’ve moved on to the next complaint now that Apple upgraded base RAM. Gotta keep the outrage machine chugging along!

 

[russell_314]

This is great but….how come iPad Pro, same chip, doesn’t even support more than one external display?

One is a tablet with a locked down OS and the other is not

How come nobody is complaining about this?

Do you really think no one is complaining about it? I’m sure there’s someone complaining about it. If no one has there’s your chance to make a post complaining about it!

 

[russell_314]

Who needs 120hz on a MAC? Are you using Mac's as gaming PC's?

Some people do. You can play resident evil on Mac now.

 

[jarman92]

My theory is that the M4 Pro is never going to happen, because it got turned into a 10-core M4 upgrade. There has been support for 2x external monitors before with the "Pro" chip, which was also the only way you got 4 Usb-c/thunderbolt ports.

Now, the 10-core M4 keeps the same name as the 8-core, but gets you 4 usb-c ports. The listed criteria for the third display is 4 ports (the two-port M4 still only supports one external display).

At least now we can stop talking about M4 Pro MacBook Pros, or MacBook Pro M4 Pros.

There's probably still going to be a bunch of confused people buying the base-level iMac, surprised to find out that they're not just short on ports, they're also short on monitor support.

What percentage of iMac buyers do you think require 3+ monitors and 4+ USB-C ports, but also don’t know how to read? 🤔

 

[jarman92]

This is great but….how come iPad Pro, same chip, doesn’t even support more than one external display? How come nobody is complaining about this?

Because there are precisely zero real-world uses for an iPad with 2 external displays.

 

[BrightDarkSky]

Because everyone wants to gripe and not look at the positives in this upgrade for the iMac. So many people here griping that I wonder what percentage actually own a Mac and what percentage just enjoy griping about Apple and a using Windows or Linux.

It's a computer, not rocket science

At least this is better version of the original versions sloppy, meager, silly offerings for the price. At least.

That said, the ZEALOTS don't want to hear any concerns or criticism, and most of us can care less.

Ironically, it' always the ZEALOTS that are complaining...about complainers. It's so silly.

"I wonder what percentage actually own a Mac and what percentage just enjoy griping about Apple and a using Windows or Linux.''

WTH. Look...no one cares about your feelings, this has nothing to do with the hardware itself. Just silly ramblings which are a cover for 'being tired of complainers'.

8gb of ram STILL costs 200.00. a 1TB 'upgrade' (lol) is still 400.00. Guess that's all fine and dandy then. The real version..ahem..has a whopping 2 more EFFICIENCY cores, not performance cores...on a desktop computer?

LOL I wish I could sell you some stocks, overcharge out the whazoo and you will gladly pay it..and NOT. COMPLAIN. I have bridges to sell you also. It's great to love your mac or your iphone..but other well informed techies and consumers understand the rereal ways appple screws us over, even when we are all in.

If you don twant to read complaints, kindly get off the friggin internets. Its that simple...so please stop complaining about complainers.