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Imagination Tech Shares Plunge as Apple Ends Deal With British Firm
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Do any of these companies get into a relationship with Apple thinking it's going to be a wonderful infinite thing? Unless you're small enough for Apple to just gobble you up with little risk, they will entice you, milk you, then kick you to the curb. It's kind of their thing.
Well depending on the contract you have, you might actually be able to say that... But in this massive case there might be a run-off period
Apple probably stole all the IP they could and handed it over to it's new China R&D center. More greed for Apple.
Have you considered the cost of developing a silicon design? On 14 nm it is around 270 000 000 USD. 10 nm will increase this cost.
Apple does not have to pay Intel for CPU development, they buy, what Intel provides, at their prices. But do not make mistake that it is cheaper to develop. Even if each CPU costs 30 USD, they still have to design it, validate, introduce and manufacture. It all consumes time, money, and effort.
For example. AMD has paid 50 000 000 USD per year for development of Ryzen CPU. It cost them 200 mln alone, over the period of 4 years. And this is cost BEFORE manufacturing phase.
65 million pounds a year in license fees in the context of iPhone sales and all the other Apple mobile devices is pretty meaningless.
1. Right now, brits have no right to complain about messing with anyone's livelihood in my book.
2. It seems Apple paid lots of British working folks a lot more money for joining Apple.
To Tim cook it's not.
So what evidence do you have, or are you just talking out of your arse?
If you consider that Apple pays Imagination about $65 million a year, and that is 2/3rds of their revenue, I do _not_ think it costs Imagination $270 million to build a chip, because they would have been bankrupt years ago.
"Apple has not presented any evidence to substantiate its assertion that it will no longer require Imagination’s technology, without violating Imagination’s patents, intellectual property and confidential information. This evidence has been requested by Imagination but Apple has declined to provide it."
so, this would mean then Apple is willing to violate their patents...
okey-dokie.... We know how well that turns out.
so, this would mean then Apple is willing to violate their patents...
okey-dokie.... We know how well that turns out.
AMAZING to think how no one at Apple thought about this. But you did...
Imagination DOES NOT build chips. They only design IP, just like ARM. Companies later license it, and pay the manufacturing costs of it, but the design costs are consumed by Imagination.
Cost of Designing, validating, implementing, and manufacturing. All adds up to the number you quoted. Apple previously only had implementing and Manufacturing costs in their Chips.
Look at Apples IP theft lawsuits....that should answer any questions you have. It makes sence when you consider the entire Chinese economy is based on IP theft. Where do you think all the knockoffs in the world come from?
The 30 USD was design included. Sure R&D has to be included in the price. So, if Apple uses 100m USD for R&D, and then creates 10 million CPU's, it's 10 USD per chip.
You clearly have no idea how much it costs to make CPU's, $30 Haha, LMFPO.
Just do some research before you write things like this, just one chip making machine from ASML will cost more than you probably ever make in your lifetime.
Nah, this isn't about saving money. This is about control of device. The success in the CPU area is something they want to duplicate. And they may need a lot more GPU power for the their VR ambitions.
It's about securities filings when you have a fundamental change in your business. In this case they're losing a huge customer and part owner and employees. That will effect their ability to do business.
Hmm well I won't expect the iPhone to have class leading graphics in 2 or 3 years time now then...
They should have invested in Imagination, not killed them off!
I guess this is yet another move to save money as per Cooks Apple, because they are so cash strapped, and another move to building their own chip which will no doubt power everything they build including computers, if they still make them, they really couldn't care less about Windows running on a Mac anymore..
They should have invested in Imagination, not killed them off!
I guess this is yet another move to save money as per Cooks Apple, because they are so cash strapped, and another move to building their own chip which will no doubt power everything they build including computers, if they still make them, they really couldn't care less about Windows running on a Mac anymore..
From what I remember, each A9 chip costs Apple around 20 USD. And this is manufacturing cost only, when you consider that 14 nm Wafer costs 7500$. You are getting around 375 chips from each wafer, with good yield.
Silicon design only increases costs. Companies are using IP from Imagination or ARM, to save TONS of money, effort, and time on well... designing the chips. All they have to do with licensing is to Implement and Manufacture.
It has nothing to do with money, because effectively, Apple will pay more money for each CPU design, but it has everything to do with performance and efficiency. Apple is perfectly capable of delivering much better hardware than Nvidia, AMD, Imagination, put whoever you want here.
And why is that? I am laughing my ass off, when I am reading comments like this. Apple has the best silicon design team in industry. Yet there are people who believe that ditching Imagination is bad thing.
Bonkers!
Apple already has custom designed GPU's in their iPhones since iPhone 6S.
Apple is smart with money, they don't frivolously spend it just because they have it. If someone tries to overvalue or overprice Apple just because they are Apple, Apple will then take a step back.