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That is actually the perfect analogy, only not as you intended. The post office lost your mail so you get them to fix their problem, you don't contact the recipient and say change your address. Thanks for clearing that up, you weren't on the debate team were you?

Except in the case of the op, the system is working fine. imessage is designed to use the email addressed in addition to numbers. He's upset because people he's communicating with don't / won't use their devices correctly / as intended. But he seems insistent on blaming himself as the root of the problem, hence the metaphor.

If those people were making proper use of contact entries this "non issue" wouldn't exist.

Hopefully you weren't on the debate team either. Context matters.
 
Except in the case of the op, the system is working fine. imessage is designed to use the email addressed in addition to numbers. He's upset because people he's communicating with don't / won't use their devices correctly / as intended. But he seems insistent on blaming himself as the root of the problem, hence the metaphor.

If those people were making proper use of contact entries this "non issue" wouldn't exist.

Hopefully you weren't on the debate team either. Context matters.
It's not working fine because he/she selected iMessage to use his/her number and it isn't. Whatever else happens down the line is not really relevant to the issue of it not respecting what is selected, which is a problem that shouldn't be there.
 
Except in the case of the op, the system is working fine. imessage is designed to use the email addressed in addition to numbers. He's upset because people he's communicating with don't / won't use their devices correctly / as intended. But he seems insistent on blaming himself as the root of the problem, hence the metaphor.

If those people were making proper use of contact entries this "non issue" wouldn't exist.

Hopefully you weren't on the debate team either. Context matters.


Who are you?!? Haha I don't blame myself, I blame the software, that is NOT working properly regardless of what it was designed to do in the aspect of address, it was also designed to be able to select which address it comes from that is what is not working. Not everyone that buys these products uses them as designed which is exactly how it was intended. These devices are designed to be user friendly and work properly in the easiest way possible. If people choose to spend hundreds of dollars to use them as paper weights that make phone calls that does not make their complaint any less valid. I'll say it AGAIN, iCloud address is NOT an account that has or ever will be used, it was given to me by Apple when MobileMe was transitioned to iCloud, it is not useful to me, and I have no reason or desire to give it out. My parents are in thier 70's they use the iPhone becaise they can see the screen not because the peice of crap about whatever apples new gadget is, I use it as you would say "properly" and understand all the little nuances, others don't, and never will BECAUSE THEY DONT CARE as long as it sends texts and makes phone calls.
 
It's not working fine because he/she selected iMessage to use his/her number and it isn't. Whatever else happens down the line is not really relevant to the issue of it not respecting what is selected, which is a problem that shouldn't be there.

Pretty confident he's got the settings wrong as I can't replicate the bug on any of my test devices or personal.

You can remove all email from imessage in the "sends & receive" options by signing out of icloud altogether on that settings panel. It can't re add itself as you need password authentication.
 
Pretty confident he's got the settings wrong as I can't replicate the bug on any of my test devices or personal.

You can remove all email from imessage in the "sends & receive" options by signing out of icloud altogether on that settings panel. It can't re add itself as you need password authentication.

I've tried all that. It's still not working for me.
 
I'll try once more..... in iMessage settings there is a Send & Receive setting. Open that and see if the @me address is there. Then press the circled-i and remove this email. Then disable iMessage, reboot, enable iMessage
 
Who are you?!? Haha I don't blame myself, I blame the software, that is NOT working properly regardless of what it was designed to do in the aspect of address, it was also designed to be able to select which address it comes from that is what is not working. Not everyone that buys these products uses them as designed which is exactly how it was intended. These devices are designed to be user friendly and work properly in the easiest way possible. If people choose to spend hundreds of dollars to use them as paper weights that make phone calls that does not make their complaint any less valid. I'll say it AGAIN, iCloud address is NOT an account that has or ever will be used, it was given to me by Apple when MobileMe was transitioned to iCloud, it is not useful to me, and I have no reason or desire to give it out. My parents are in thier 70's they use the iPhone becaise they can see the screen not because the peice of crap about whatever apples new gadget is, I use it as you would say "properly" and understand all the little nuances, others don't, and never will BECAUSE THEY DONT CARE as long as it sends texts and makes phone calls.

So back to the original question, why use imessage in the first place then? Just turn it off.
 
Pretty confident he's got the settings wrong as I can't replicate the bug on any of my test devices or personal.

You can remove all email from imessage in the "sends & receive" options by signing out of icloud altogether on that settings panel. It can't re add itself as you need password authentication.
There's a possiblity of something like that certainly. There's also a possibility of some glitch with those particular settings and/or that particular iCloud account as far as iMessage service goes.
 
I'll try once more..... in iMessage settings there is a Send & Receive setting. Open that and see if the @me address is there. Then press the circled-i and remove this email. Then disable iMessage, reboot, enable iMessage

He can tap on "Apple Id: him@whatever" at the top & remove association altogether too.
 
So back to the original question, why use imessage in the first place then? Just turn it off.
Possibly because it's still useful as far as not incurring messaging charges, works if there's no cellular connection but there's WiFi, can be used on multiple devices, provides delivery and other information, etc.
 
Midway through a text conversation with my son yesterday, he informed me that all of a sudden my texts were coming through from my iCloud account. Nothing had changed mid text. It's certainly an Apple iCloud bug, but probably not one they'll pay much attention to. My mother's had serious iMessage and Facebook issues since iOS 6. <shrug>
Same thing here. I can fix it temporarily by turning on airplane mode, logging out of imessage, resetting network settings, and reversing those steps.

But it reverts all of its own accord.

iOS 8 has been garbage with all of these problems so far.
 
Pretty confident he's got the settings wrong as I can't replicate the bug on any of my test devices or personal.

You can remove all email from imessage in the "sends & receive" options by signing out of icloud altogether on that settings panel. It can't re add itself as you need password authentication.


Pretty confidant you haven't a clue as to my knowledge or understanding of Apple devices, and software, you're assuming in order to make yourself look more intelligent than you likely are. Which in essence is nothing but trolling.

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Same thing here. I can fix it temporarily by turning on airplane mode, logging out of imessage, resetting network settings, and reversing those steps.

But it reverts all of its own accord.

iOS 8 has been garbage with all of these problems so far.
Yep that's the same problem I'm having I remove the addresses and they get reassigned I'm assuming by the server.
 
Possibly because it's still useful as far as not incurring messaging charges, works if there's no cellular connection but there's WiFi, can be used on multiple devices, provides delivery and other information, etc.

Not sure if trolling or you just haven't read his small essay on why he doesn't care about any of that.
 
So back to the original question, why use imessage in the first place then? Just turn it off.

As I explained earlier I like to know when my messages have been read as do my wife and mother and supervisors.
 
I've tried all that. It's still not working for me.
Pretty confidant you haven't a clue as to my knowledge or understanding of Apple devices, and software, you're assuming in order to make yourself look more intelligent than you likely are. Which in essence is nothing but trolling.

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Yep that's the same problem I'm having I remove the addresses and they get reassigned I'm assuming by the server.

By the way, when you do all these things, are you doing it on all your devices that have iMessage enabled (at least the disabling iMessage part)?
 
By the way, when you do all these things, are you doing it on all your devices that have iMessage enabled (at least the disabling iMessage part)?

This too. If your number isn't associated on all devices it'll default to the email everytime.

Number had to be on all, email has to be on non.
 
By the way, when you do all these things, are you doing it on all your devices that have iMessage enabled (at least the disabling iMessage part)?

Yes, but I do wonder if there is an issue being caused by my old device. When I traded in my old device I removed my iCloud account, and find my phone, I did an option restore to factory settings, but my safari tabs for "my" iPhone is still visible in Safari on my iPad, and this new phone.


@andyK what's your take on that? Seriously, aside from some of the arguing I realize you are trying to help any thoughts?
 
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I'm not sure if it's a bug, or a timing issue with number and email getting activated.

I think they key to stopping it continuing after you've done all the right things, is deleting message threads/conversations before sending any new messages.
The "Send & Receive" screen states: "START NEW CONVERSATIONS FROM". I took that to mean continuing a previous conversation will keep using whichever "address" (email or number) that the conversation was started from, regardless of current setting.

What worked for me:
Sign out of Apple ID on Settings- iMessage- Send & Receive
Sign out of FaceTime on Settings- FaceTime
Switch off both iMessage and FaceTime.
Delete message conversations.
Switch phone off (hold the power/lock button, slide to unlock. Not just a screen off).
Switch back on.
Enable iMessage and FaceTime.
Wait until it's activated and working, then sign in your Apple ID on both, and ensure again that Send & Receive is set to start new conversations from your number.

I wouldn't mind my iMessages going from my email address, and having the recipient store my email address, if iMessage was smart enough to try the number associated with my contact card on the recipient's device, when they "send as text message" when iMessage fails for whatever reason. (sorry, that sentence ended up longer than I wanted)
That never seems to happen though, and when the recipient has my email and number stored, they don't see which it comes from without checking. It's just a small added inconvenience.
 
OP, I had this issue too and made a thread about it last week. its gotta be an iOS 8 issue, as i had it happening on my iPhone 5S while i was on the GM before it went live.

I've had the issue happen 3 times, with 3 different convos with two different contacts. mid convo, my iMessages sent to their devices as my email and not my number and started popping up on my iPad and iMac, as they are set up for iMessage as email only.

the issue isn't with me, my settings or anything i did. I've forever been properly set up as send/receive iMessages from my phone number and email on my phone (start convo as phone number) and email only on my iPad and computer. so far, the issue hasn't happened on 8.0.2 or on my iPhone 6 at all.

so for all the people telling you to check the settings, i know it has no effect and would usually be the simple solution but its not. toggling iMessage on and off may fix it, if not, then its an iOS 8 or iCloud bug.
 
I don't think you are going to the right setting. It's:

Settings -> Messages -> Send & Receive.

Set it there.

I'm a self proclaimed Apple genius/fanboy/etc., This behavior was happening to all 4 of my family members iPhones after the update to ios8. Send and receive settings were set correctly. The only work around was to turn off iMessage, log out of icloud, soft reset, log into iCloud and then turn iMessage back on.

Everyone in my family received a new iphone when the 6 was released. I will say, I turned iMessage off on all the old devices before doing a reset of all content and settings. I'm curious if this contributed to the hiccup when restoring? Again, iMessage settings were configured correctly after the restore and the behavior also happened mid-conversation using an old text message thread.
 
My mom is having this issue as well. I told her to turn off iMessage, log out of iCloud, reboot the phone, log back in, turn iMessage back on, and test it. She only respond with "???". Looks like I will be doing it. Can't believe my MOM can't figure this out on her own. I guess she will just have to email everyone she knows and have them add this new email address to the contacts.
 
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