iMessages feature misleading

Discussion in 'iOS 5 and earlier' started by jtt2006, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. jtt2006 macrumors newbie

    Aug 23, 2011
    I used messages to send a text to another iPhone user and I see I got charged even though I turned off the send SMS feature. The text reply from that user got billed to me. I think the reason is both users need to be using ios 5 so it goes through iCloud. The description suggests that in the first paragraph of the description of how imessages work from the apple site but does not repeat this apparent limitation in the second paragraph suggesting you can send messages to other iPhone users without cost. Is what I am describing and assuming sound correct?
  2. Brymo macrumors regular

    Jul 3, 2007
    The iDevices must be on iOS5.
  3. jwingfie macrumors 6502a


    Dec 30, 2008
    Athens, GA
    Your post confused me. iMessage is only for iOS 5 users. If you are trying to send an iMessage to someone not on iOS 5, then it will be send just like a regular ole SMS.
  4. Aspasia macrumors 65816

    Jun 9, 2011
    Halfway between the Equator and North Pole
  5. The Poet macrumors member

    Jun 6, 2010
    And if you don't get this there's still the blue/green color difference.
  6. jtt2006 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 23, 2011

    I know that a text sent is called an iMessage if using ios5 but there is no way to differentiate that froma regular message because you use the same app so in retrospect I did not send an IMessage but how do you know when your contacts will get around to getting ios5 to save on costs. I think it is still misleading or confusing as to when a message is an imessage
  7. g41d89a macrumors newbie

    Sep 19, 2007
    You will also see in the text box, before you start typing "iMessage", otherwise you see "Text Message"
  8. Ratatapa macrumors 6502a

    Apr 3, 2011
    If i remember SMS app detects auto if you use messenger or not

    If you use Imessenger the text will be in blue and green if it use the normal SMS method
  9. ckelley macrumors regular

    Aug 25, 2003
    Austin, TX
    If it's an iMessage, your Send button changes to blue and it says "iMessage" instead of "Text Message" in your text input field.

    If not, it's being sent as an SMS and will be billed according to your plan.
  10. ChiliBlue macrumors 6502

    Jul 26, 2008
    Houston, TX
    In the box where you type the message it says in grey letters, iMessage or text message. If it says text message in grey letters, it will send as a text.
  11. greytmom macrumors 68040


    Jun 23, 2010
    I don't agree. There's a difference in color, as has been explained, and as for how you know when your contacts will get around to getting iOS 5? Well, all you can do is ask them. In the meantime, if cost is truly an issue, then perhaps you should tell all of your contacts who are not on iOS 5 to email you instead.
  12. kappaknight macrumors 68000


    Mar 5, 2009
    Or just call them. The iPhone is a phone after all.
  13. The Poet macrumors member

    Jun 6, 2010
    Besides the color and text indications, if you add someone to iMessage your device will visibly check if said device is eligible to iMessage.
  14. 2fives macrumors regular

    Nov 7, 2006
    Surrey BC
    thank you, that alone totally explains it. I thought it was a different app or something.
  15. swingerofbirch macrumors 68040

    Oct 24, 2003
    The Amalgamated States of Central North America
    The suggestion of e-mailing brings up a question I've always had. I've only ever used dumb phones and never got into texting on them. With smartphones, it seems like the acts of texting, instant messaging, and e-mailing are remarkably similar. How do you choose one over the other? Is the only benefit of texting that the message could go to someone with a dumbphone that doesn't have an e-mail client? Otherwise why wouldn't you always e-mail to avoid texting charges?
  16. Nermal Moderator


    Staff Member

    Dec 7, 2002
    New Zealand
    I guess it's just that old habits are hard to break. Text messaging has been around for a lot longer than mobile e-mail so a lot of people use texting without even thinking about it.

    Most of my friends don't even have e-mail set up on their phones so I often find myself sending texts to them. I'd love to drop texting completely but thankfully I'm on a capped plan so it never costs me more than $6 anyway.
  17. knoxtown macrumors 6502

    Nov 19, 2007
    I decided not to use a texting plan on the iPhone. Between email, GoogleVoice and now iMessage, texting should be obsolete.

    I prefer email honestly.
  18. blackjackmark macrumors 6502

    Apr 19, 2010
    For those on a limited data plan, email would use data...not a lot I guess, but it can add up! :D
  19. nate13 macrumors 6502


    Feb 16, 2004
    Fargo, ND
    if you're counting your Kbs just pay the extra 3 latte's a month and get a man's data plan.
  20. knoxtown macrumors 6502

    Nov 19, 2007
    I spit Vitamin Water all over my monitor when I read that. HAHAHAHA
  21. blackjackmark macrumors 6502

    Apr 19, 2010
    Fortunately I'm not...still on unlimited! :D
  22. tuna9720, Oct 12, 2011
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2011

    tuna9720 macrumors regular

    Jan 17, 2008
    Another solution to address that confusion is "To the contact info add the email address of the person used for the iMessage , then from contacts select /Send Message".

    Then it's going to ask you to choose whether the email or the phone number to be used. Select the email address and next time when you go to your Message/iMessage app and select that conversation, it will never try to send it as a regular text because it's not using the phone number.

    And you won't be accidentally charged if you forget about the colors and the gray iMessage sign before you start typing.

    That's the best solution I could think of.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong

    Ps: And I have to say that , I agree with OP about getting confused.

    Say your intension is sending the text by iMessage , and you can easily forget about the colors, which one was which. Or the other party could stop using an iOS device and since you always chatted using iMessage you again could ignore about the color change. Or you think you are on a wifi or 3g but you might be losing the connection for a few minutes or seconds, again it may try to send it using as a regular text.

    You may end up paying for that , even worse if that happens for international texting.

    Some of you guys say, it's obvious before tapping the send button whether it's an iMessage or regular . Yes you may be right but Apple is famous of making their customers relaxed and comfortable.

    iMessage could be a seperate app. and I wouldn't object that.

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