Dont get me started on the new icon!
It doent match any of the other ilife members!
Yes, because a camera in front of a photo, a clapperboard, a DVD, a guitar and a corkboard all have a unified look and feel. Oh, hang on....
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iMovie '08 Rewrite Fully Supports AVCHD & Radically Improves Making Good Movies Fast
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Yes, because a camera in front of a photo, a clapperboard, a DVD, a guitar and a corkboard all have a unified look and feel. Oh, hang on....
I haven't seen the new iMovie yet (nor do I even have the latest "old" version of iMovie) but from what it sounds like, it would have been nice if Apple retained the old iMovie in addition to providing this new one. The new one could have been called something else... iTube maybe? Or offer the new "easy mode" interface as part of the existing iMovie package.
Still, I'll reserve actual judgement until I play with it in person.
Or offer the new "easy mode" interface as part of the existing iMovie package.Still, I'll reserve actual judgement until I play with it in person.
I feel awfully confident that all of the features that people loved about iMovie HD will eventually make it back into the new iMovie '08, but I definitely feel the pain of the people that were hoping for getting updates to the HD version during *this* product cycle. It's hard for me to imagine them maintaining and developing two apps with such overall similarities in use as part of the iLife suite, so a true merger seems pretty inevitable.
Unfortunately, that means that by the next iteration (iMovie '10?) we'll be back to where we were with iMovie '06 with the added features of '08, and maybe by iLife '12 there will be the improvements people were hoping for this iteration. Yikes.
Unfortunately, that means that by the next iteration (iMovie '10?) we'll be back to where we were with iMovie '06 with the added features of '08, and maybe by iLife '12 there will be the improvements people were hoping for this iteration. Yikes.
I thing the problem is just that. It can't do anything more than a 5 minute video for youtube... I will stick with iLife 06...
For anyone complaining, just sign up for an online ADC account and submit a bug report. File an enhancement request for the timeline.
For anyone who shares this opinion:
Now that you have made this realization, does it even matter what apple should have done? you can have both imovies sit on your dock side by side, and rename the new imovie itube or whatever you want to call it, and use the two programs for their different features. imovie hd is already great as it is for timeline editing, and the new imovie is excellent for cataloguing your video and compiling snappy homeflicks. as for new updated themes/transitions, if you really want more, buy third party plugins.
I posted that before Apple released iMovie '06 as a free download... so they did, in effect, do what I suggested.
After they sell a ton of iLife '08 copies to all the frustrated AVCHD camcorder owners who can't wait.
Exactly. I just went and bought it today for that very reason. Yeah, I was a fool to buy the HDR-SR1 in the first place, but at least now I can use it...
the problem is that imovieHD will not be continued! no stability improvements, no new themes, whatsoever ...
I could live with 2 different apps, but a cancelled 06 is a bad thing!!!
Capture in '08 and edit in iMovie HD
Is it possible to capture AVCHD footage in iMovie '08 and edit it in iMovie HD?
Is it possible to capture AVCHD footage in iMovie '08 and edit it in iMovie HD?
That's actually a good thought.
Apparently, iMovie'08 converts AVCHD footage directly into AIC. I suppose that if you can find the converted AIC files, you could then import that into an iMovie'06 project.
It's worth a try. Only not by me since I have neither an AVCHD camcorder nor iMovie'08.
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iMovie '08, Blah.
I'm glad that I'm not the only person highly disappointed with the new iMovie. I was so angry I threw together a quick movie about it:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=guGh1GRkgUY
The YouTube upload functionality is great! I wish there was a standalone application that did it. (Somebody, make it!)
I'm glad that I'm not the only person highly disappointed with the new iMovie. I was so angry I threw together a quick movie about it:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=guGh1GRkgUY
The YouTube upload functionality is great! I wish there was a standalone application that did it. (Somebody, make it!)
Changed my mind about iMovie 08 and 5 minute videos.
I got married the other weekend (August 12th) and a friend used my Sony HDR-SR5 and recorded over 3 hours of video. I spent a few hours before my honeymoon and put together a video together that was over an hour in length.
Took about 2 1/2 hours to export it (large size video) and 1 3/4 in iDVD but it was so simple to do.
So forget just 5 minutes of video, you can do an hour long movie with no problems.
I'm a film/video freelance editor, working in FCP.
iMovie has, for me, always been a ridiculous problem- completely useless. Always felt like it was too bulky, slow, and unintiuitive to be any use, and other than using the "Free" video editing software that came with your mac, I couldn't justify ever using it.
Also, I felt [and feel] that users who needed more from the program in terms of filters, effects, and transitions, would be much better served upgrading to FCE.
This radical rewrite has completely shocked me, actually. The program has been altered from something that was too restrictive and cumbersome for me to ever use to something that I, quite honestly, expect to use regularly now. For fast cuts of projects, small projects, multiformat projects, it really seems to be a great, intuitive solution.
I did not expect I'd say this, but I'm a fan.
iMovie has, for me, always been a ridiculous problem- completely useless. Always felt like it was too bulky, slow, and unintiuitive to be any use, and other than using the "Free" video editing software that came with your mac, I couldn't justify ever using it.
Also, I felt [and feel] that users who needed more from the program in terms of filters, effects, and transitions, would be much better served upgrading to FCE.
This radical rewrite has completely shocked me, actually. The program has been altered from something that was too restrictive and cumbersome for me to ever use to something that I, quite honestly, expect to use regularly now. For fast cuts of projects, small projects, multiformat projects, it really seems to be a great, intuitive solution.
I did not expect I'd say this, but I'm a fan.
Really? Heve you been able to add a bit of slow-motion to the rice shower? or a bit of sepia tone in some sequences? or just a really soft focus on that wonderful kiss, or maybe duck the soundtrack and higher the original audio on the BIG yes?
In small words, have you ever been able to do something "creative"?
If not you are not editing a video, but are assembling some clips toghether. Everithing is fine , but they are two different things, just as imovie '06 and this '08 iclip thing are different programs. I like the first one.
PS: congratulations for your wedding! Really from the heart!
There were no bit suitable for slow motion. We tend to eat rice in England, not throw it at people. The wedding ceremony itself wasn't recorded as it's considered a little tacky to do that in England
and I never mentioned editing. I love iMovie 08 for simply throwing the different recording together. If I wanted to do all you mentioned I would have bought Final Cut Express HD (and will by just as soon as I find out if it supports AVCHD).
Why should iMovie 08 do all that FCE or FCS can do, after all iPhoto isn't exactly Photoshop is it.
Thank you for you congratulations.
The point was that iMovie 08 should do all that iMovie HD could.
I don't have iMovie 08 yet (since it can't run on a G4), but did they really remove slow motion?!
Jeez, I used slow motion when editing video of my kitten jumping aroundI never thought that was enough to warrant FCE...
imovie 08 is all brand new, but in some important ways it has unfortunately less functionality.
That doesnt mean its a complete waste of space, it's just different. Its being aimed at a wider audience.
Believe it or not the old I movie can seem daunting to some people who are new to editing video. I genuinely think this is apple's attempt to get more people editing there own videos with confidence.
Apple acknowledge that there is an issue with the redesign, especially if users need something more sophisticated like the old imove. That is why they are offering a free download of imovie 6 to purchaser of ilife 08.
So if you buy a copy like I have, you will have the option of editing the way you want.
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/imovieHD6.html
That doesnt mean its a complete waste of space, it's just different. Its being aimed at a wider audience.
Believe it or not the old I movie can seem daunting to some people who are new to editing video. I genuinely think this is apple's attempt to get more people editing there own videos with confidence.
Apple acknowledge that there is an issue with the redesign, especially if users need something more sophisticated like the old imove. That is why they are offering a free download of imovie 6 to purchaser of ilife 08.
So if you buy a copy like I have, you will have the option of editing the way you want.
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/imovieHD6.html
I can assure you that here in Italy there are more recipes on how to cook rice than you can ever dream in alla your life, nonetheless here in Italy is considered of good auspice to throw it at the end of a marriage (it is a simbol of fertility). In England, if I recall correctly, you have the "Something old, something new,Something borrowed, something blue, And a silver sixpence in her shoe" bit. (to paraphrase you, here in Italy we prefer to spend money instead than keeping them in a shoe).
Different places, different habits...
If you are saying this I should assume you have never seen neither iMovie 06 nor FC. You are comparing apples to oranges. The difference between the two is enormous, just as the one between iMovie 08 and iMovie 06. And nobody here is complaining for the lack of new features of imovie, but for the lack of the ALREADY EXISTING features.
You're welcome, it really came from the bottom of my hearth.
They removed all audio and video effects altogether. slow-motion, sepia, quick-motion, soft focus etc etc etc....
also audio editing is severely impaired (you cannot vary volume inside a clip, just to say one, just edit the volume for the entire clip),
Apple started to offer imovie 06 for free download after all the mac websites have been caught by a firestorm of users'complains. And the problem is that (Apple confirmed this, according to David Pogue) there will be no more bugfixing or developing on iMovie 06. So, in a couple of years 06 will be useless (no more support for new camcorders, and probably not running in new OSes or processors...and this is a pity.
Im not sure i agree with that entirely.
I bought ilife 08 a day after release from the apple store in regents street , London.
when i installed it i noticed every other app, iphoto, garageband, etc. etc., where just updated. with imovie 08 interestingly an imovie 6 folder was created with the app nestling inside.
So either apple HAVE acknowledged that there are issues with the redesign, or they where anticipating some criticism from users, either way THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR IT, and thus made the necessary allowances, regardless of being 'caught by a firestorm of users'complains'!
I bought ilife 08 a day after release from the apple store in regents street , London.
when i installed it i noticed every other app, iphoto, garageband, etc. etc., where just updated. with imovie 08 interestingly an imovie 6 folder was created with the app nestling inside.
So either apple HAVE acknowledged that there are issues with the redesign, or they where anticipating some criticism from users, either way THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR IT, and thus made the necessary allowances, regardless of being 'caught by a firestorm of users'complains'!
So either apple HAVE acknowledged that there are issues with the redesign, or they where anticipating some criticism from users, either way THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR IT, and thus made the necessary allowances, regardless of being 'caught by a firestorm of users'complains'!
The 'firestorm of users' complaints' brought about the availability of iMovie HD as a separate download for people who bought iLife 08 (and those who got new computers with iLife O8 installed).
*snark*
Oh. Really? You sure that that's what "we" do in England? Had a listen to "Eleanor Rigby" by the Beatles recently? Maybe you meant "My family and friends"...
*/snark*
That aside, I'm very interested by your comments on iMovie 08. I can understand that for keen amateurs, this will be a painful transition. I was one of those that used iMovie to its fullest, before finding its limitations too frustrating and buying FCE.
But at the same time, I have a ton of footage that I have never put together because it was all just too time-consuming in the old iMovie. I guess that's why Apple redid the whole app - for those that wanted to do some real editting, the old version's limitations were just too evident, and for just a simple montage, it was too complex. Example - you've put together your whole clip, nicely synched to the music that you are playing in the background. then you decide that you really need to add a transition between two clips. Oh, bugger, there goes that synch. It'll take you another 10-15 mins to get everything synched again.
That said, I would never have bought FCE if I hadn't got bitten by the video editing bug whilst using iMovie. And I'm not sure that the new version will get people hooked in the same way.
I used to do a lot of editing, using final cut pro and sometimes I would just use iMovie to do a quick and simple edits. I looked at new iMovie 08 - I don't get it. No timeline?
I can not work on the sound, tune things up with precision without seeing the whole picture. I downloaded iMovie 06. I will try to use 08 for home movies and only then I can say if I like it. May be it is a fun program to use?
I can not work on the sound, tune things up with precision without seeing the whole picture. I downloaded iMovie 06. I will try to use 08 for home movies and only then I can say if I like it. May be it is a fun program to use?