His beef is WHY to degrade..... Apple could improve iMovie and make an option for beginners and for advanced user, add more effect, transitions, and so on. more features. What was done instead - just threw a good program in the trash. Looks like apple wants people buy Final Cut Express......
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iMovie '08 Rewrite Fully Supports AVCHD & Radically Improves Making Good Movies Fast
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His beef is WHY to degrade..... Apple could improve iMovie and make an option for beginners and for advanced user, add more effect, transitions, and so on. more features. What was done instead - just threw a good program in the trash. Looks like apple wants people buy Final Cut Express......
I only used iMovie for editing in some of the nice GeeThree/Slick effects and transitions before exporting it in to FCP. Now, I basically have no use for it. And since iDVD 5-7 templates are no longer useable with DVDSP 4, I really wish I hadn't picked up the $US79 bundle just for an iPhoto upgrade. It's like walking backwards up the stairs.
Yeah, we eat rice, not throw it, we use something called confetti at weddings. And if you are going to quote the Beatles to put across an argument you must remember that they also said "I am the egg man, I am the walrus"
My point is this. iMovie 08 is excellent for putting together movie clips.
Apple have made iMovie 06 available as a free download, but I guess some people just like to moan.
Ahem, I'm not british as you know but, according to
http://www.weddingtosses.com/rose-petal-history.shtml :
"It is said that the throwing of wedding rose petals and confetti, rather rice, began in 1988, when Ann Landers invented the story of birds exploding after eating dried rice, in order to discourage the throwing of rice at weddings. This, of course, is nonsense, otherwise there would be few birds left in China! The tradition probably reduced in popularity because dried rice is very slippery when trod upon, and in the modern litigious society we live in, confetti and rose petals are safer.
However, rose petals are not bird friendly, and many churches have banned the use of confetti. "
So maybe someone in England is still throwing rice at the weddings...
Anyway, my first example works well also with a confetti shower.
C'mon Scott, do not insult your intelligence saying this. The ability to download iM06 is just a bit of sugar to calm down users. And is mostly useless as many of those complaining already had on their hard drive iM06 (frequently bundled with tons of third party plug-ins). The problem is that iM06 is a dead app now and you cannot know if it will work again with the next software update.
I, for one, have already ordered a copy of final cut express (299 ) and I already know it will be a pain to learn to use it just to do half of the things I used to do in iMovie 06. FCE is a very powerful app, really more powerful than iMovie 06, but is designed for professionals that can invest a lot of time into learning it. iMovie 06 could be mastered in just a couple of hours to do most of the stuff you need to do home movies and some friends weddings. iMovie '08... well it's nothing to do with iMovie, is never a movie editor anymore.It's just a (bad) clip assembler with a couple of cool features. Very cool to see it, but really CPU intensive (Final Cut Pro - a professional video editing application - can run flawlessly on a G4 Powerbook, whereas iMovie 08 - a dumb clip assembler - needs, at least, a 1.9 GHz G5 to run... )
No it wasn't. my point is that apple anticipated the criticism before they released ilife 08.
if not why create a separate folder to put imovie 6 in when installing imovie 08??
..... as an upgrade???
No it wasn't. my point is that apple anticipated the criticism before they released ilife 08.
if not why create a separate folder to put imovie 6 in when installing imovie 08??
..... as an upgrade???
Presumably they did that because if you're midway through a project in HD, you won't be able to do much with it in 08. So if you've got HD projects on the go, you still need it. Also, iWork updates have always been like this (new folder for the new apps, leaving the old intact), and I don't think they do that because of anticipated criticism.
People who already own HD get to keep it, that's no big surprise. But anyone who skipped iLife 06 also now gets to download iMovie HD when they buy 08, and that doesn't seem to have been planned out in advance. Unless you've got some inside info we don't know about...
People who already own HD get to keep it, that's no big surprise. But anyone who skipped iLife 06 also now gets to download iMovie HD when they buy 08, and that doesn't seem to have been planned out in advance. Unless you've got some inside info we don't know about...
Perhaps the iMovie06 download is for people with G4's and G5's that buy iLife'08 for the updated iPhoto, GarageBand, iDVD, and iWeb apps, but can't run iMovie. So now, they can be up to date on all of the other apps and get iMovie06.
Apple could be throwing a bone to users of older Macs that hadn't upgraded to iLife'06 previously.
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I love learning new things and I love Apple, but iMovie 08 is a giant step backwards from iMovie 06.
Adobe, Microsoft and others are rubbing their hands over this stumble by Apple, there is now a big gap in Macintosh mid-level video editing software.
* No Chapter Markers for iDVD
* No Share to iDVD
* No timeline
* No granularity--only global audio changes allowed
* Loss of multiple audio tracks
* No sound on import
* Loss of plugin support
* Cannot change transition speed after inserting a transition without making global changes
* No audio waveforms
* Cannot vary clip speed
* No pause control for titles
* Cannot play audio over black (when the clip is over, so is your audio. Apple knows best!)
* Cannot select a sequence of clips to move elsewhere within the movie
* Cannot overlap audio tracks (again...no multiple tracks)
* No themes (they WERE amazing)
* Cannot extract audio (of course, you can't do much of ANYTHING with audio in this thing)
* Cannot import projects from older versions without losing, well...everything important.
Adobe, Microsoft and others are rubbing their hands over this stumble by Apple, there is now a big gap in Macintosh mid-level video editing software.
* No Chapter Markers for iDVD
* No Share to iDVD
* No timeline
* No granularity--only global audio changes allowed
* Loss of multiple audio tracks
* No sound on import
* Loss of plugin support
* Cannot change transition speed after inserting a transition without making global changes
* No audio waveforms
* Cannot vary clip speed
* No pause control for titles
* Cannot play audio over black (when the clip is over, so is your audio. Apple knows best!)
* Cannot select a sequence of clips to move elsewhere within the movie
* Cannot overlap audio tracks (again...no multiple tracks)
* No themes (they WERE amazing)
* Cannot extract audio (of course, you can't do much of ANYTHING with audio in this thing)
* Cannot import projects from older versions without losing, well...everything important.
Some of us have reloaded iMovie HD 6, and are happy we did. (It's only available for those who've purchased and installed iLife '08, I believe.)
Apple's AVCHD - Just Another Sales Pitch Along The Way
Hi Ladies & Gents: I've been a Mac user for a very long time, since the stone age of pre-PowerPC MacPlus days. So, no surprise here using iMovie '08, AVCHD, and, any and all G4/G5 incompatibilities. Why? Simple, and you and many of you may know why. Apple needs to squeeze every dollar out of us, no matter how many people complain. The only way to get Apple's attention is to meet them with a team of lawyers and prove that they may indeed be misleading customers and perhaps engaged in the art of "planned obsolescence". Anyway, did any G4/G5 owner actually think Apple is going to let us get away with not paying in, AGAIN? As in having to purchase yet another modern operating system and hardware that should, by Apple's standards, work seamlessly? As Apple paves the way for a new generation of Intel Macs, PowerPC will go by the way side, even with something as basic as iMovie? We've seen it before when Apple moved users to PowerPC Processor heaven! So, why all the frustration with something that was so predictable? Well there WAS always hope that Apple would cut many of us the slack they should be offering their loyal customers. And, as I sit hear typing on an $8K souped-up G5 Quad, while my wife's 2GHz MacBook struggles to overcome a number of deficiencies, like: way less processing power, RAID drives (external & internal), loads of RAM, and so on, I'm mad as heck that the guy at the Apple Store who sold me this wonderful computer (not that long ago) said to me, "Your making a good investment". Furthermore, it just took my wife's little Intel 2Ghz MacBook (1GbRAM - via fw400 to an external 100Gb HD) close to ONE HOUR to transcode just 8 minutes or so of AVCHD vacation video. And, as some other fellow noted on another AVCHD blog, the transcoding practically quadruples the amount of disk space from the original files, which happens to be streaming from my Sony SR1 AVCHD camera. Look folks, the bottom line to Apples AVCHD thing is it would be nice if the whole operation wasn't so tedious, time consuming, and costly. And, we still don't know if well be able to work with those transcoded HD files on say a G5 Quad (i.e. the "good investment"). Stay tuned . Im willing to be that it will be many more hours before that little Intel MacBook finishes doing its AVCHD transcoding thing. Then maybe, just maybe, Ill get to have just a little more of that FUN the Apple promos get us to wholeheartedly buy into.
a roy
Hi Ladies & Gents: I've been a Mac user for a very long time, since the stone age of pre-PowerPC MacPlus days. So, no surprise here using iMovie '08, AVCHD, and, any and all G4/G5 incompatibilities. Why? Simple, and you and many of you may know why. Apple needs to squeeze every dollar out of us, no matter how many people complain. The only way to get Apple's attention is to meet them with a team of lawyers and prove that they may indeed be misleading customers and perhaps engaged in the art of "planned obsolescence". Anyway, did any G4/G5 owner actually think Apple is going to let us get away with not paying in, AGAIN? As in having to purchase yet another modern operating system and hardware that should, by Apple's standards, work seamlessly? As Apple paves the way for a new generation of Intel Macs, PowerPC will go by the way side, even with something as basic as iMovie? We've seen it before when Apple moved users to PowerPC Processor heaven! So, why all the frustration with something that was so predictable? Well there WAS always hope that Apple would cut many of us the slack they should be offering their loyal customers. And, as I sit hear typing on an $8K souped-up G5 Quad, while my wife's 2GHz MacBook struggles to overcome a number of deficiencies, like: way less processing power, RAID drives (external & internal), loads of RAM, and so on, I'm mad as heck that the guy at the Apple Store who sold me this wonderful computer (not that long ago) said to me, "Your making a good investment". Furthermore, it just took my wife's little Intel 2Ghz MacBook (1GbRAM - via fw400 to an external 100Gb HD) close to ONE HOUR to transcode just 8 minutes or so of AVCHD vacation video. And, as some other fellow noted on another AVCHD blog, the transcoding practically quadruples the amount of disk space from the original files, which happens to be streaming from my Sony SR1 AVCHD camera. Look folks, the bottom line to Apples AVCHD thing is it would be nice if the whole operation wasn't so tedious, time consuming, and costly. And, we still don't know if well be able to work with those transcoded HD files on say a G5 Quad (i.e. the "good investment"). Stay tuned . Im willing to be that it will be many more hours before that little Intel MacBook finishes doing its AVCHD transcoding thing. Then maybe, just maybe, Ill get to have just a little more of that FUN the Apple promos get us to wholeheartedly buy into.
a roy
Maybe I'm misreading your post, but I really wanted to comment.
1. Apple did not invent AVCHD. Apple is really forced to support AVCHD because it's looking like it will be the eventual winner in the HD camcorder format war. Apple has to use AIC because editing AVCHD is very hardware intensive. The tradeoff is that AIC file sizes are huge, but there's no way to get around that. DV is 25 Mbps for (720x480). I've read that AIC is about 100 Mbps (1920x1080). Just looking at that, AIC has about 6x the pixel count, but is only 4x the bit rate. Seems to me that the size of AIC files is just fine. NOTE - I'm not exactly sure if AIC is set to 24fps or 29.97fps.
2. As for G5's not being supported ... I'm not sure if the G5 has the capability of converting AVCHD to AIC. I understand that the MB is slow at it, but would a Quad-G5 be any faster? I don't know the answer to this.
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