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iMovie, iPhoto and iLife Arrive

OMG. iPhoto 2 is almost unusable on my iBook 600.

It takes nearly 20 seconds to switch from the "organize view" to the "edit view"

It won't scroll though my library (well, it WILL, but it is painful.)

Is this just the way iPhoto is going to be? Or can we expect a performance increasing patch?

I wish I could go back :(, which is upsetting bacuase I was SO excited about it.

Now I'm scared to try iMovie 3...
 
Originally posted by nickmcghie


my gosh u are so right.. i just tried it on my 400Mhz Pismo G3 with 576MB RAM.. first of all, it took nearly a minute just to launch the program, then almost another minute to load an old imovie project.. the video playback can get so choppy that it's practically unusable.. and i haven't even tried doing any editing yet :mad:.. too bad i can't go back to imovie 2

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I've got a Powerbook G4 400 and iMovie 3 loaded within about 5 or 6 seconds. I'm used to using final cut pro 3 and the multitasking with that program during rendering sucks. iMovie is and has been 10 times better at this. but playback seems to have real problems after rendering the video files.it keeps pausing and got totally stuck at one point.
Playback was fine until effects were applied.
After restarting iMovie it seemed fine though.Strange.
UI seems fine and as fast as before.
Rendering of the old effects seems to be just as fast as before, but the new effects such as earthquake do take alot longer, but this is because they a more system intensive,but no longer than any of the advenced final cut pro filters.
I think apple has a few bugs to work out with this program. It will probably be fine for people with a faster CPU than me.I dunno. Like to here what other poeple think of it.....

If english seems bad, its cos its late and i've had a few beers.
 
permissions

don't forget to repair your permissions! it found alot of imovie/iphoto things to correct. iphoto seems a little more responsive since doing that...not sure if it was that or a restart that helped.
 
LimeiBook86:

Wasn't the iBook 466 released in the fall of 2000? That would make your lime-coloured iBook a bit over two years old. Not that it's ancient, but Apple is clearly designing apps and their OS with higher resolutions in mind,

I'm kind of thankful that I got a 15" PowerBook, in that regard, although it's not likely that I'll use iMovie 3. I certainly won't use iDVD 3... I don't have a Superdrive!
 
Originally posted by Freg3000


Seems like Apple didn't get all the bugs out of iMovie-even with an update to 3.0.1 prior to its release.
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Heh. I guess be glad we didn't get the .0 release? :p

I'm just D'ling it here at home... it was snappy on a G4-450 w/rage128 and 384mb RAM (@work)... I'll be trying it on my snow iMac right away...

<crosses fingers>
 
All installed and no where to go...

Working off a Pismo G3 400 with 312 Megs and the lastest OSX (not 10.2.4).
IPhoto 2 does move quicker. IMovie chugs but I've used the app only once before anyway. I will say this it is nice to click and have all my itunes and iphotos galleries at my disposal for imovie and ken burns rules.
I suggest to everyone to restart their computers and see if the applications run faster or not. I did and saw a wittle increase but not much. The fact I had classic running may have slowed things down a bit.
To all the people in ryanrafferty@mac.com ichat room when the uploads hit the web, it was great talking with you all, we have to do it again when 10.2.4 comes out.
Here's hoping the imac upgrades rock, feel a trip to NH store is in order....
Damn that autocorrection tool rules...
 
I just got it

Originally posted by Glossybear
OMG. iPhoto 2 is almost unusable on my iBook 600.

It takes nearly 20 seconds to switch from the "organize view" to the "edit view"

It won't scroll though my library (well, it WILL, but it is painful.)

Is this just the way iPhoto is going to be? Or can we expect a performance increasing patch?

I wish I could go back :(, which is upsetting bacuase I was SO excited about it.

Now I'm scared to try iMovie 3...
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Works fine with my Blue and White G3/400
It is faster than the older version I love it:D
PS remember the more ram you have the better
 
Originally posted by Freg3000


Yeah, I wonder why this is.

Everything seems...I don't know....not "flowing." I even have two 1 Ghz processers. ;)

Hopefully Apple will fix these problems soon.
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That's odd ... I'm running a Quicksilver 733mhz from 2001 and iMovie runs fast and smooth.

iPhoto, however, doesn't seem to have improved at all in that respect. I'm also still getting some strange semi-transparent artifacts around the iPhoto window when I drag it around (happened in the previous version as well).

Hopefully we'll see an iPhoto upgrade shortly that will bring it up to speed (and iCal could still use a little work, though its recent upgrade made it drastically better). As for iMovie, I'm fully satisfied.

I just use it for novelty though... I do have Final Cut Pro, so I have no REAL use for iMovie.
 
iLife install does work with Pioneer Drives

Originally posted by pncc
Anyone have iLife and a aftermarket DVD-R drive? I heard a rumor that iDVD 3 will NOT install unless you have a OEM internal Superdrive. Even internal Pioneer drives don't work. Anyone test this?
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I bought iLife from the Apple Store in Washington, D.C. today, took it home, and my Pioneer DVR-105 allowed it to install iDVD. That has to mean that it recognizes the Pioneer off-the-shelves as Superdrives because a friend tried to load his iLife DVD disc using a non-Pioneer drive and it told he had to have a Superdrive.

Unfortunately, I don't know if iDVD works with my DVR-105 drive because all I have is a B&W G3 350 Mhz and when I start up I get a message that says it's can't start iDVD because it can't find the "required hardware." What does that mean? (Please don't tell me I have to buy a G4 upgrade chip for Old Faithful...) Any help would be appreaciated (patches, advice, etc.)
 
Old Macs still kickin!

My Dad's Power Mac G4 450mhz AGP blasts through iMovie 3, I loaded up a movie (about 20 min long movie) and it played it full screen fine! Then I previewed the features and it was fine! Now iPhoto seems a little sluggish but runs fine! Haha, wierd how the older Macs are running iMovie 3 better than the new ones? I wonder why?
 
iMovie 3 is terrible

I tried iMovie tonight and it sucks! I tried importing a movie after rewinding the tape through iMovie and it would play. I had to restart iMovie to get it to play and import. After it was finished importing I got no audio output from iMovie. I have no idea what is going on. It is very slow on my machine (867 Quicksilver w/896 MB RAM and 10.2.3 with Revolution 7.1 audio card, nVidia GeForce MX 2). This is really ticking me off. I may have to revert back to 2 to do the project I need to do. This is completely unacceptable. I tried playing with all the options and nothing. The audio bug is particularly glaring and it's rather annoying to have to rewind the tape restart iMovie and then hit play/import. BTW, I do get audio output while it's importing, just not on playback.
 
imovie 3

If you haven't loaded imovie 3..DON'T!
Terrible app in present condition!
I'm spending my Saturday re-installing imovie 2.

Apple, really... Did you test this one?

Sound problems..choppy! Don't believe me, go read the imovie forums on Apples site.

Lots of people are steaming mad!
Including me.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
iMovie scans your hard drive on first open for projects. That is why you all are having slow first load times.

I just loaded it on my 500 MHZ iBook which is NO speed demon and it was 10 seconds, maybe less.

iPhoto 2 is faster but that's such a stupidly little difference that it's really nothing. After clearing out the cache files, woo boy, big increase. But I can't guarentee the results for all.
 
iPhoto2 works great for me

On my TiBook 550MHz, 768MB RAM, 10.2.3, there is no question that iPhoto2 is MUCH faster than the prior version. It launches faster, moves between photos with no intermediate fuzzy rendering, and shuts down faster.

The first time I launched it, there was a minute or two wait while it converted the library, but after that, it has blazed. I'm nothing but pleased with the response.

My photo library contains 1810 photos in 1168MB, and my launch time is 13 seconds (from clicking in the dock to being ready to go). That is around half of what it was in the prior version.

However, I will second one comment I saw in this thread: be wary of using the Enhance feature. It makes bad pictures better, but makes OK or good pictures look bad.
 
seems like a lot of you having problems with imovie3 and iphoto2, it runs nice here on my powerbook 667 with 768mb of ram, iphoto2 on the other hand loads up kinda slow, i only have like 500 pics in my iphoto library, but after it loads up, its fine... not bad... i hope they fix iphoto2 load up times for big photo libraries, mine is only 500 and it loads up slow...
 
I was just thinking...

It seems like a lot of people are having issues with iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3. iPhoto 2 works pretty good for me. iMovie 3 is doggy, but I don't expect it to be a race horse on my iMac DV 400. Anyhow I was wondering does anyone have any thoughts about the 10.2.4 update helping these apps work better?
 
looking for files

iMovie must do that every time it launches. It's slow for me everytime I launch it, not just the first time. I thought about 10.2.4 as well. I'm curious to see if that helps at all. I sincerely hope so. I sent feedback to Apple, however they don't have iMovie 3 as an option, just iMovie 2.1 and 2.1.1 or whatever and they don't have 10.2.3 as an option for the OS (but 10.2.2 is listed twice :rolleyes: ). It is continually doggy and I keep finding new import problems. I did happen to figure out how to get audio output from my clips though now. It's kind of stupid to make it that difficult to get it right though and I'm no newbie to this.
 
So you think 1 GHz is not enough...

To those complaining about the speed I would recommend installing more RAM. Video is one of those things that needs a lot of memory to render effects and play back smoothly. Bigger and faster hard drives also help, especially when you are working with a few tracks of video and audio. Keeping your applications folder in an external hard drive is a sure way to slow down your system - keep all your applications in the same hard drive as the OS and all your media (movies, music, etc) in the external. I also think that the next OS update (10.2.4) will address the speed issues of these applications.
 
Speed help...

I just ran MacJanitor as per recommendation over at the Apple Discussion board. While still slower than 2, iMovie 3 runs much better now.

Mac Janitor
 
reasons why these programs may be running slowly:

iMovie:
a large library of mp3s in itunes and photos in iphoto will make imovie load very slowly

iPhoto:
iphoto has always run slowly...the whole program needs to be re-written with more logical sequence orders
 
Re: Speed help...

Originally posted by msibbern
I just ran MacJanitor as per recommendation over at the Apple Discussion board. While still slower than 2, iMovie 3 runs much better now.

Mac Janitor
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This should should be ran weekly if you don't leave your computer on at night. MacJanitor runs the system cleanup tasks that OSX would normally do in the early AM automatically. If you don't leave your computer on over night occasionally then you should run MacJanitor.

Am I repeating myself?
 
It would seem that in the case of iMovie 3, amount of RAM is more important than processor speed...does it mean Apple are gonna start bundling at least 512mb with all new machines from now on just to run their "consumer" apps?

...after 2 years of waiting for this update, I can't help but feel a little dissapointed...I expected it to run slower on my iBook than iMovie2, but quite frankly, its practically unusable.

Swinny
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Webmaster // www.iMovie-user.com
 
I just wanted to post that I'm quite pleased with the updates to iMovie and iPhoto. iPhoto is approximately 600,000% faster on my 17" iMac and I really like the new features of iMovie. I don't have iDVD yet, as my father is an educator and I'm going to have him order it and Keynote for the $15 deal and save myself $100+. Anyway, just thought I'd add my $0.02.
 
Originally posted by paulwhannel


I do the same thing-- keep Applications folder on an external HD, and have an alias to it where Applications usually is. Most installers just go straight through the alias and the stuff gets installed to the external, but everything through Software Update (well, Apple software in general) deletes the alias and installs it on the boot drive. It's kind of annoying, i wish there was a better way--

i've changed the permissions on the Applications alias to match the folder itself, but it still deletes it...

pnw
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I am really curious why people want to try and put their apps in a different folder/hard drive. Is it just a space thing? (This is not a flame, just a normal question: I really am curious to know why)

NicoMan
 
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