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iMovie, iPhoto and iLife Arrive

Originally posted by Glossybear
OMG. iPhoto 2 is almost unusable on my iBook 600.

It takes nearly 20 seconds to switch from the "organize view" to the "edit view"

It won't scroll though my library (well, it WILL, but it is painful.)

Is this just the way iPhoto is going to be? Or can we expect a performance increasing patch?

I wish I could go back :(, which is upsetting bacuase I was SO excited about it.

Now I'm scared to try iMovie 3...
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I have got a iBook 12"/800 from the latest revision and iPhoto2 is not slow at all on my machine. I cannot believe that the difference in processor speed would make such a difference in responsiveness. Or is it the graphics card?
I personally believe it has to do with RAM. Mine is maxed out at 640MB. Is yours too ?

NicoMan
 
Note to all who have experienced slowness... Have any of you turned on disk journalling? If you have, disable it if you want to see any performance out of either programs.
 
I see some of you guys are recommending MacJanitor, which I have used previosuly when I was on 10.1.

This may be a daft question but does it still do the biz on 10.2? If so do I need to get a new version or will the old one work ok?

Thanks.

Still waiting for my iLife cd (ordered ages ago from Apple Store UK online) - not impressed!
 
Originally posted by hibitdatman
I see some of you guys are recommending MacJanitor, which I have used previosuly when I was on 10.1.

This may be a daft question but does it still do the biz on 10.2? If so do I need to get a new version or will the old one work ok?

Thanks.

Still waiting for my iLife cd (ordered ages ago from Apple Store UK online) - not impressed!
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Yes, it still does the job in 10.2. I'm not sure if it has been updated for 10.2 but I would go ahead and check anyway. If there is a newer version out there get it.

Here's a link to the latest version, version 1.2.

http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=10491&db=mac
 
Originally posted by NicoMan

I am really curious why people want to try and put their apps in a different folder/hard drive. Is it just a space thing? (This is not a flame, just a normal question: I really am curious to know why)

NicoMan
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The reason I reoganize my apps into separate folders is that I have something like 140 apps. Sorting through all of them and trying to figure out what each does is a real pain in the arse if you don't have them organized by function (i.e. paint, utilities, works, internet, etc.). Therefore what I have done is created an App folder for each user and I put aliases of each app in those folders. This allows each user to organize the apps as they see fit.

The method of categorizing the apps is something I carried over from previous versions of Mac OS. In previous versions the Apple updater would install the new app ignoring the old app altogether. When I went to OSX 10.x and would run an updater it wouldn't install because it couldn't find the old one if I didn't have it in the original installation folder.

Is is true that now with 10.2 it is back to the way it was and you can move things around and the updater will still install the new version even though it doesn't know where the old version is?
 
Originally posted by peterjhill
Note to all who have experienced slowness... Have any of you turned on disk journalling? If you have, disable it if you want to see any performance out of either programs.
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how do you find out if it's enabled/disabled? and how do you change it?
 
Originally posted by nickmcghie


how do you find out if it's enabled/disabled? and how do you change it?
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Well, if you havent turned it on, its not on so dont worry about it. If you want to turn it on, you have to use the terminal and type:

diskutil enableJournal
or
diskutil disableJournal

I'm not 100% sure if you have to log in as root to do those commands or if you can do a superuser command:

sudo diskutil enableJournal

It would ask for your root password after this. Can anyone clarify if you can do a sudo or do you have to log in as root?
 
lol i would of downloaded them, if only i had the hard drive space.....
 
iMove 3 runs pretty decent on my 12" iBook 600 with 256 ram and 8meg Graphics.

iPhoto runs about the same as the last for me..just a slight slowdown.
 
Sorry for double posting but...Does anyone know if you can get more transitions...It doesnt come with much...iMovie 3 that is
 
Re: NOOOOOO!

Originally posted by LimeiBook86
AAAARRRGG! I want to use iMovie! BUT I CANTS I NEED A HIGHER RESOLUTION SCREEN! NOOOOO! DAMMIT! My display can only go to 800 x 600...I can't believe it, now I can't even have iMove 2 back on, I hate this, why Apple WHY!!!!????:mad:
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Mr. System 7.1, i.e., wild eep...Welcome to my world. :eek:

well, sort of.

I use my iBook 466 (Graphite, not Lime) at class almost every day for various tasks, and it also only goes up to 800 x 600. I had fears from day one about the iBook having a max. res of 800 x 600 when I first found out, and also some apps may require something higher.

On my main computer, my Cube, I HATE 1024 x 768 res. I'm so used to 800 x 600 and enjoy it so much that I'm not going to change my resolution for one app, regardless of who developed it, what the app does, and what contents the app possesses.

I don't see why Apple cannot institute 800 x 600 res. Apple is mainly a software company. I think if iMovie 2 could run in 800 x 600, even if it was to lack a few "high-end" features, it can be done for iMovie.

And if I don't plan to use that enormous black space in the upper-left hand corner for video, I would be happy seeing that space reduced in size, so I can play around with the rest of the features.

Not everyone, who downloads iMovie 3, is going to use it frequently or is going to use it professionally. Therefore, if iMovie wishes to encompass a larger screen area so all the options are available for Pro users, they will be the ones not just requiring the higher res., but also having a larger max. screen res.

I'm not going to "expect" anything from any future iMovie updates, as to screen res. adjustments, as expecting something will not be very productive. If you mention this, or discuss the situation in public, it will take notice. Therefore, LimeiBook, et. al, I recommend posting your suggestions, calmly and formally, to the following feedback page.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/imovie.html

mnkeybsnss has a point with the "speed issues" at hand. If you have a lot of files iMovie or iPhoto has to load, guess what? It's going to take some time to load all those files. iPhoto loaded very quickly for me, because I had only four unedited photos saved in the iPhoto Library folder. (G4 Cube, 500MHz, one processor) The retouch options, as well as the brightness contrast controls, were simple and easy to use, and it isn't anywhere as near as complex as Photoshop. Still, though, I see iPhoto as the best freeware digital image-editing app known to man.
 
Originally posted by NicoMan


I have got a iBook 12"/800 from the latest revision and iPhoto2 is not slow at all on my machine. I cannot believe that the difference in processor speed would make such a difference in responsiveness. Or is it the graphics card?
I personally believe it has to do with RAM. Mine is maxed out at 640MB. Is yours too ?

NicoMan
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Yeah, my RAM is maxed at 640... But I repaired my permissions and that seemed to help ALOT.

Still not snappy, but at least useable.
 
not so bad

I'm running a dual USB 500 mhz iBook and while it's no speed demon, it's certainly tolerable for editing. (Rendering on this machine is slow as molasses no matter which version of iMovie you run.) Both iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3 have loaded reasonably quickly. Again, I have 640MB of RAM and I think that's the difference.

I also am willing to bet 10.2.4 will have some kind of speed increase for these -- believe me, Apple doesn't want their iLife suite to run slowly.

Also, I predict we'll see some software updates for both iMovie and iPhoto within the next month or two (a dot version) like with iCal -- remember how slow that was before the upgrade?

Anyone know how often I should repair permisisions?
 
Originally posted by NicoMan

I am really curious why people want to try and put their apps in a different folder/hard drive. Is it just a space thing? (This is not a flame, just a normal question: I really am curious to know why)

NicoMan
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For some people, and for me, it's in case you have to reinstall the OS, you don't have to re-install the applications later. :D
 
Re: not so bad

Originally posted by scorpion
I'm running a dual USB 500 mhz iBook and while it's no speed demon, it's certainly tolerable for editing. (Rendering on this machine is slow as molasses no matter which version of iMovie you run.) Both iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3 have loaded reasonably quickly. Again, I have 640MB of RAM and I think that's the difference.

I also am willing to bet 10.2.4 will have some kind of speed increase for these -- believe me, Apple doesn't want their iLife suite to run slowly.

Also, I predict we'll see some software updates for both iMovie and iPhoto within the next month or two (a dot version) like with iCal -- remember how slow that was before the upgrade?

Anyone know how often I should repair permisisions?
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I usually repair permissions after any software install/update. That seems to be when certain things get reset. Also, anytime my system seems like its acting up or being twitchy.

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Lock your aliases.

iginally posted by paulwhannel


I do the same thing-- keep Applications folder on an external HD, and have an alias to it where Applications usually is. Most installers just go straight through the alias and the stuff gets installed to the external, but everything through Software Update (well, Apple software in general) deletes the alias and installs it on the boot drive. It's kind of annoying, i wish there was a better way--

i've changed the permissions on the Applications alias to match the folder itself, but it still deletes it...
why)
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You need to login as root and make the aliases, so they are owned by root, and second, you need to click the "lock" option from get-info to prevent it from being deleted.

I've only tried this with symbolic links though, not with standard "finder" aliases.

To make a symbolic link, in terminal, you type:

ln -s path-to-destination place-to-put-link

So, for example, to link your applications folder to another HD or partition also named Applications, you would type:

ln -s /Volumes/Applications /Applications

Make sure to copy all your apps to the HD and then delete the original folder. Do all steps as root, and make sure to lock the alias. The links have survived everytime for me...
 
iPhoto Backup Acting Strange

has anyone else noticed that when backing up to CD in iPhoto you can only fit about 540 MB of photos onto a 700 MB blank disc.

Why is that. Its really annoying when trying to back up a large number of files!
 
Re: iLife install does work with Pioneer Drives

Originally posted by CrawfishDaddy


I bought iLife from the Apple Store in Washington, D.C. today, took it home, and my Pioneer DVR-105 allowed it to install iDVD. That has to mean that it recognizes the Pioneer off-the-shelves as Superdrives because a friend tried to load his iLife DVD disc using a non-Pioneer drive and it told he had to have a Superdrive.

Unfortunately, I don't know if iDVD works with my DVR-105 drive because all I have is a B&W G3 350 Mhz and when I start up I get a message that says it's can't start iDVD because it can't find the "required hardware." What does that mean? (Please don't tell me I have to buy a G4 upgrade chip for Old Faithful...) Any help would be appreaciated (patches, advice, etc.)
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You have to buy a G4 upgrade chip for Old Faithful... actually that may not necessarily help, daughterboard upgrades can be famous for not being recognized by software.

Think about what iDVD spends most of its time doing... it compresses video relatively quickly... if it sees a chip that can handle the grunt work. iDVD was introduced on G4 faster than mine, a 400, but at least the altivec extentions would allow this compression to go along at a much faster clip than any G3 might be able to handle. iDVD has always required at least a G4 to work.
I wouldn't even THINK about trying a G3.

You can check out what XLR8yourmac.com has to say about the pioneer drives and iDVD use for some hints and tips- they may have info about CPU upgrades working with iDVD.
 
I have a feeling this is gonna be a really stupid queston but how do a reset/fix permissions?
 
Anyone notice that there is a blank space at apple homepage...underneath the pic of the new powermacs, between the powerbooks and iLife...

could this be for the new powemacs pic to go so they can put a pic of the new iMacs up!? just a thought
 
Kodex.

Applications>Utilities>Disk Utility

When disk utility is open, click on the "first aid" tab. Make sure you have your hard drive highlighted in the left hand part of the window. Then click on "repair disk permissions."

This will take 10-15 minutes.
 
Originally posted by Xerov
Anyone notice that there is a blank space at apple homepage...underneath the pic of the new powermacs, between the powerbooks and iLife...

could this be for the new powemacs pic to go so they can put a pic of the new iMacs up!? just a thought
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Airport Extreme is there for me. Oh well.

I've found that Apple's hardware page is a pretty good indicator of what is going to updated next. The product that is in the smallest box is probably going to be updated soon. And guess what....the iMac is in the smallest box.

www.apple.com/hardware

P.S. I know that iPod is also about the same size as the iMac box, but the iMac has only its picture; the iPod has its picture as well as its name.
 
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