Per Matthew Panzarino:
Per John Gruber...
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/09/17/panzarino-iphones-11
Per John Gruber...
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/09/17/panzarino-iphones-11
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iPhone 11 "Improved Face ID Angle"
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Agreed. Big fan of FaceID versus TouchID. Many people complain about the process of getting to the home screen - which I find seamless - and ignore how much easier opening password protected apps are. I don’t understand why they would bother to bring TouchID back, even under screen.
95% of the time, FaceID works for me. However, those times when my phone is on my desk, or in my car holder...I really miss using my fingerprint.
I’m really hoping the new FaceID address those issue, or at least makes it better than now.
I’m really hoping the new FaceID address those issue, or at least makes it better than now.
Don't they have limited time with the phones to review. I doubt they spent a long time checking this.
Sure but they Nilay specifically tested it against xs , doesn’t take long to try off angle and said it wasn’t better that he could
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I don’t have a dog in this fight (6s here), but I would assume that the FaceID algorithm in the new ones continue to build out a face model over time like the rest of the FaceID phone’s do. Perhaps it takes a bit of time to get a noticeable difference in this regard? I have no idea how long reviewers get units for...
Bear in mind that FaceID improvements for speed are based entirely and solely on IOS 13 and have nothing to do with the hardware. (reference) I can pretty much take that at face value that this'll work, and probably even faster depending on CPU on the phone.
The FaceID improvements for angle are based upon the front-facing camera which remains to be tested. This is not touted as a feature of the phone itself and wasn't even mentioned directly that I could find - just that it's now a 12 megapixel camera and has a wider field of view, but that still has no direct bearing on the infared sensor and dot map projection elements, so the entire notch hardware would have to be upgraded for this to really have a better field of view.
Not knocking anyone's data in this thread, but lets be clear that the speed aspect of FaceID is about 80% built into iOS and about 20% related to the speed of your SoC. (those numbers are entirely my speculation). But the angle of recognition is definitely something that hasn't been tested by anyone yet that I'm aware of in a final iPhone 11 model extensively.
The FaceID improvements for angle are based upon the front-facing camera which remains to be tested. This is not touted as a feature of the phone itself and wasn't even mentioned directly that I could find - just that it's now a 12 megapixel camera and has a wider field of view, but that still has no direct bearing on the infared sensor and dot map projection elements, so the entire notch hardware would have to be upgraded for this to really have a better field of view.
Not knocking anyone's data in this thread, but lets be clear that the speed aspect of FaceID is about 80% built into iOS and about 20% related to the speed of your SoC. (those numbers are entirely my speculation). But the angle of recognition is definitely something that hasn't been tested by anyone yet that I'm aware of in a final iPhone 11 model extensively.
Dream up some extra $$$, as having both Face ID & in-display FPS should cost more.
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You’d think they were at a point in time where the iPad Pro Face ID unit could be placed in the iPhone, but seeing as there was no promoting of Landscape Face ID unlock, they’ve disappointingly delayed it for yet another year...
You’re likely holding the iPad further from your face than the phone - that could make a difference. Try holding the phone st the same distance - just a suggestion, it might be fun to see.
I can’t see adding a second, less secure authentication method at additional cost. That would very un-Apple like, and no one would want to pay extra for it as @Ralfi implies.
Apples labelling means nothing, faceID will be the same iOS 13 made it faster. Just like the screen is all high and mighty on paper but it will still have yellow tint issues everything is over the top on apples keynotes I’m not excited for the new phones even tho I’m on the upgrade plan, the new batt is good but another year of bad signal from intel
[doublepost=1568792788][/doublepost]The review models they are testing it against iOS 12 not 13 so yes it would be faster
[doublepost=1568792788][/doublepost]The review models they are testing it against iOS 12 not 13 so yes it would be faster
I'm disabled and in a wheelchair and I cant lift up my phone, I am still using an iPhone 8 because of TouchID but I am very eager to upgrade but I'm not sure if the 11 Pro would work for me laying flat on my wheelchair tray. I've tried with an Xs Max but it hardly worked for me...
My iPhone 11 Pro Max unlocks at more extreme angles than my X did, hands-down. Pun intended.
I used to have to bring my iPhone X up more in front of me when unlocking while using an escalator, for example, whereas the 11 Pro Max unlocks from basically waist level, just an inch or two in front of my body. Hard to explain, but yeah - the difference is noticeable.
I used to have to bring my iPhone X up more in front of me when unlocking while using an escalator, for example, whereas the 11 Pro Max unlocks from basically waist level, just an inch or two in front of my body. Hard to explain, but yeah - the difference is noticeable.
I wish I could try it in the shop that they only have dummy phones ughhMy iPhone 11 Pro Max unlocks at more extreme angles than my X did, hands-down. Pun intended.
I used to have to bring my iPhone X up more in front of me when unlocking while using an escalator, for example, whereas the 11 Pro Max unlocks from basically waist level, just an inch or two in front of my body. Hard to explain, but yeah - the difference is noticeable.
I just unlocked my phone and immediately took a selfie, to show the angle. But I'm not going to post it, as it's basically a shot straight up my nose. Lol
