Not where i live it wasn't. Some users might have had a gmail account, but that was it. We didn't have the internet speeds for that kind of online-based sh-t in 2009.
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India Planning Homegrown Operating System to Rival iOS and Android
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I particularly like how some believe that private sector competition guarantees success, when actually it relies on failure. Most business go bust in the first 10 years. In contrast, my public sector university (in the UK) has been in continuous operation since the early 1400's. It's over 600 years old and was never once motivated by profit.
what’s life like in Antarctica?
also… let’s not forget, Netflix launched its STREAMING service is 2007. YouTube was launched in 2005. If the bandwidth for those existed, a fancy JavaScript client would be easy. Gsuite is all done client side, it’s not like you are connecting to some mainframe.
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They probably have better internet than me.
No one in my country knew what Netflix was ten years ago.
I'm just stating how it was.
Apologies but I fail to understand the argument you are trying to make. It seems to be something like 'There are and were multiple mobile OS's, but only one internet and WWW, and somehow that is important enough to prove public sector projects are always bad and the WWW is an exception.' Actually if you go back far enough there were multiple networks that people used to gain information for computers. In the old days there were dial-up sites using private infrastructure and owned entirely by the private sector. Those old enough to remember will probably think of AOL dial-up service and old style dial-up bulletin boards. Yet the internet didn't take off until government funded projects supported it, including ARPANET (a precursor of the internet for the Department of Defence), the invention of HTML (developed by a researcher at publicly funded CERN), and NCSA Mosaic (the first popular web browser, a result of state and federal funding). Public sector innovations permeate the technology you are using now (and of course private sector technology as well).
My point is that it is political dogma on one side of the political spectrum is to think of all government projects as wasteful and doomed to failure. That is simply untrue. And most private sector efforts fail. To assume this new project by India will fail is based on a kind of prejudice against the public sector and, possibly, against the country. India's mobile OS might fail. It might not.
Gmail accounts were open to anyone and those features were well established for anyone to use back then. Sorry to hear you didn't have the internet speed to use the GSuite but that's not something Google could've helped with.
I simply responded to the idea that THIS (topic of thread) makes sense.
Sorry, but you interjected WWW and internet into the discussion and are the one drawing comparisons. Go back and read the string of replies. So my response back is basically that it's a poor analogy because there are mobile OSes that are thriving and advancing. This is a government effort to create an "indigenous" mobile operating system... explicitly intended to "create an alternative to iOS and Android" in India. So, back to my original response - how does this "make sense" or more to your argument, how does this parallel the WWW and internet innovations? It doesn't and it doesn't.
Finally, I make ZERO assumptions that this will or will not fail based on prejudice - don't put that on me. I make my point because a government is trying to fill a void that doesn't exist.
OK - now I understand what you were trying to say. I suppose, though, that whether a void exists or not depends on the viewpoint of the government supporting the effort. Clearly the Indian government has some purpose in mind, but it is not clear what that is.
yes , more competition, less corporates controlling the population.
you are not wrong, this is late stage capitalism where few owns all but the idea is to disrupt the market continually. Unfortunately, capitalist are too cowards to shake the current dominant player so they seek an area with no competition.
this is why no one compete with Windows, top 3 telecoms in usa, android+ios....etc . It takes a brave one to make a competition, thus Elon made Tesla and was not afraid of Toyota or Ford. Jobs made iPhone and was not afraid of blackberry or Nokia, so did google with android. Joi in india after some billionaire got upset with the telecom over there. Microsoft was not afraid of Sega, Playstation or Nintendo and released Xbox. Protonmail was not afraid of Gmail and Outlook. Odysee was not afraid of Youtube and so on.
Thats not a bad thing necessarily , forks can go on to be thing own thing. Isn't Macos a fork of NextOS? Brave is fork of Chromium? Lineage, Calyx, Graphene fork of Android . All linux distros are like forks of each other. I think all crypto currency are forks of Bitcoin.
you are not wrong, this is late stage capitalism where few owns all but the idea is to disrupt the market continually. Unfortunately, capitalist are too cowards to shake the current dominant player so they seek an area with no competition.
this is why no one compete with Windows, top 3 telecoms in usa, android+ios....etc . It takes a brave one to make a competition, thus Elon made Tesla and was not afraid of Toyota or Ford. Jobs made iPhone and was not afraid of blackberry or Nokia, so did google with android. Joi in india after some billionaire got upset with the telecom over there. Microsoft was not afraid of Sega, Playstation or Nintendo and released Xbox. Protonmail was not afraid of Gmail and Outlook. Odysee was not afraid of Youtube and so on.
This is just going to be a fork of Android. Like Huawei’s ‘new’ OS.
Huawei’s HarmonyOS: “Fake it till you make it” meets OS development
No discernible difference between Huawei’s “all-new” OS and Android.arstechnica.com
Thats not a bad thing necessarily , forks can go on to be thing own thing. Isn't Macos a fork of NextOS? Brave is fork of Chromium? Lineage, Calyx, Graphene fork of Android . All linux distros are like forks of each other. I think all crypto currency are forks of Bitcoin.
The purpose is that the Indian government, like the US government is very large in its administration. They need an OS where they control the source code and kernel. This is something nearly every poster here has forgotten. For a moment think about how expansive government operations are in the US, China, and India with the use of mobile devices. Apple is a US company and they comply with EVERY federal and state law. They are not obligated to do that anywhere else in the world, they may if it affects sales, but they may not either.
Samsung gained popularity ... that wasn't it. It was Google threatening to pull Google's Android OS and Google Services from Samsung. Then I'm pretty sure private talks and incentives promised since Samsung is Android OS until recent Chinese strongholds came about in competitive global sales numbers over Samsung in the last 6yrs.
The point isn’t to improve the global system of mobile operating systems, it’s to produce an OS that the Indian government can trust and/or to substitute for imported software and help climb the value chain, just as China did 50 years ago, Japan and South Korea in the 1950s. Even earlier the US was doing the same sort of thing, although with more reliance on overt barriers to trade.
Let's not kid ourselves, Apple doesn't give me the option to encrypt my iCloud backup with my own private key. Even if they did, I still don't trust them.
I actually appreciate this way more than what the EU is doing. India at least THINKS (for now) that this is something they can accomplish. And, there’s far more people in India than the EU, so, with wider captive audience it’s a pretty decent opportunity. The EU knows that’s far beyond their capabilities… their best bet is to try to control things others have created.
I have to use one and I have been a Mac user long before they were on Intel. I do use privacy apps instead of Apple apps. Standard Notes, ProtonMail, Threema, etc. I do use their products, but everyone is spying on someone.