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Sounds like the gruelling (unnecessary) yearly major software updates have finally caught up with them and software quality is suffering when they don't go to unusually great lengths to optimise (e.g. iOS 12)? With MacOS in particular the new features brought with each new version is now so scant it's not really worth having a major version per year any more. Make it a biennial update cycle and spend two years polishing, patching and perfecting, and spend over a year building and testing the next major version.
 
Sounds like the gruelling (unnecessary) yearly major software updates have finally caught up with them and software quality is suffering when they don't go to unusually great lengths to optimise (e.g. iOS 12)? With MacOS in particular the new features brought with each new version is now so scant it's not really worth having a major version per year any more. Make it a biennial update cycle and spend two years polishing, patching and perfecting, and spend over a year building and testing the next major version.
Brilliantly put! Couldn't agree more. Can we go to 3 year update cycles for the OS?!
 
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and apples continuous failures continue to fail...why on earth do we put up with this STUFF ??

Because many of us are realistic and realize flawless software is a pure impossibility. Not to mention many of us (myself and coworkers included) can't even reproduce this issue, it doesn't happen for everyone.
 
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Do they not test this stuff before putting it in production? For a really expensive computer, this is unacceptable.
Of course they do test. This *could* be a component tolerance issue. What Apple sell is no where near top end electronics. Price a pacemaker, for example.
 
Of course they do test. This *could* be a component tolerance issue. What Apple sell is no where near top end electronics. Price a pacemaker, for example.
Should I cancel my order for a CTO MBP then? If Apple is seriously cutting corners to the point of causing hardware issues I don't want to be part of that.
 
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Should I cancel my order for a CTO MBP then? If Apple is seriously cutting corners to the point of causing hardware issues I don't want to be part of that.
My thing tends to be a never get a first generation anything. But... would you be happy with a device that costs over $2500 and has popping speakers?

I'd wait until the next release but that's just me.
 
Fixed it for me. It only affected web video.

An aside: Why do so many people who clearly hate Apple comment on Apple blogs?
 
My thing tends to be a never get a first generation anything. But... would you be happy with a device that costs over $2500 and has popping speakers?

I'd wait until the next release but that's just me.
I think I might just cancel the order then. Very disappointed. Between the speaker popping stuff and the "yellower" screen issue I am reading about it seems like Apple for some reason just can't hit one out of the park. I wonder why? They know what their users are complaining about I am sure. They have to have plants watching MR religiously I would think...?
 
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I think I might just cancel the order then. Very disappointed. Between the speaker popping stuff and the "yellower" screen issue I am reading about it seems like Apple for some reason just can't hit one out of the park. I wonder why? They know what their users are complaining about I am sure. They have to have plants watching MR religiously I would think...?
I have had mine for three weeks and I love it!!!!!! and the little pop is a digital audio artifact that is just some code that got missed during programming of the OS, it is not a hardware issue. I have not had any problem with screen check your screen setting and make sure you have the default settings. And call or stop by the Apple store for help. Don’t believe the trolls. Like iPhone bend gate, or if I hold my hand weirdly over the edges of the phone I have no signal. All troll BS.
 
My 2018 MKP 15” has now had the internal speakers ruined twice by some kind of random pop event. The second time I noticed the event and it was at the end of installing some software. Apple seems to be having problems controlling audio noise between software and hardware.
 
My 2018 MKP 15” has now had the internal speakers ruined twice by some kind of random pop event. The second time I noticed the event and it was at the end of installing some software. Apple seems to be having problems controlling audio noise between software and hardware.
Did you take to a Apple store or call AppleCare for support?
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FYI .2 Cat is still in beta so more fixes are still going on that is how beta’s work. It is not a release version.
 
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Did you take to a Apple store or call AppleCare for support?
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FYI .2 Cat is still in beta so more fixes are still going on that is how beta’s work. It is not a release version.
10.15.2 is a beta, huh?!
 
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Brilliantly put! Couldn't agree more. Can we go to 3 year update cycles for the OS?!

That's not frequent enough to respond to market and industry changes. I do think they should decouple feature releases, app updates and updates to the underlying operating system, though. An annual OS release is less pressure if it doesn't pack in so much other stuff.
 
That's not frequent enough to respond to market and industry changes. I do think they should decouple feature releases, app updates and updates to the underlying operating system, though. An annual OS release is less pressure if it doesn't pack in so much other stuff.
I think two years between is plenty for an OS though. 3 might be too long, yes, but the every year ordeal is exhausting!
 
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Unfortunately for me, this update completely bricked my brand new 16” MBP, requiring a TimeMachine restore.
I'm typically not one for pedantry, but bricked means done, not restorable from backup.

A bricked computer is a paperweight, like many HomePods became a few months ago
 
Fixed it for me. It only affected web video.

An aside: Why do so many people who clearly hate Apple comment on Apple blogs?

Because in the Last year they have bricked watches with a release, they have bricked HomePods with a release (I Lived this one and what a pain), they have released how many versions of iOS 13 because it is issue riddled, and on. The quality that once existed isn't there in the same way. Are they finally addressing them, yes. But I think the frustration most have, is why did it even have to ever get to this point.
 
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Because in the Last year they have bricked watches with a release, they have bricked HomePods with a release (I Lived this one and what a pain), they have released how many versions of iOS 13 because it is issue riddled, and on. The quality that once existed isn't there in the same way. Are they finally addressing them, yes. But I think the frustration most have, is why did it even have to ever get to this point.
Agreed. I don't think it is a bunch of people hating on Apple. It is a bunch of people wanting and expecting better from them. Some of the things I have witnessed lately have been simply mind numbing.
 
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Not unusual as many hardware issues have software workarounds.

Nowadays it seems it‘s quite fashionable to go to market with sloppy, outdated or rushed up hardware designs then try to fix things later in software.
Boeing knows a thing or two about that...
 
Nowadays it seems it‘s quite fashionable to go to market with sloppy or rushed up hardware designs.
Boeing knows a thing or two about that...

Here's hoping apple doesn't start making airplanes, let alone cars....

This whole service centric opinion they have, it's off and isn't working. When executive relations worked with me on the HomePod matter, I sent an email at the end indicating on one of many points that I was very dissatisfied with the lack of quality in apple lately and that they have lost the vision of the company Steve made.

Subscription fatigue is real and it's diverting bandwidth from areas we are needing more resources on. Not one of their services Apple Music aside have I been happy with or subscibed to beyond the trial.
 
Cmon these are super minor issue. Anywhere else other than on Mac land forums this is no sense. I work for IT and we live in bugs and issue, sometimes never fixed, sometimes fixed after months... If you think this is an issue you really have poor hardware, software and operating system knowledge. It is complex world.
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On a new machine it is vey common to have minor software issue, drivers need to be tuned. Like for GPU performance, 10.5.2 boost Navi drivers speed for example. This is not hardwire just software, I bet 99% of whiners here are not developers, IT specialist or just hardware and software experts. Having issue fixed this fast with software updates is good, issues will always be there at product launch.
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He is just spreading FUD. And it works every time. Reading forums comments these days confirm mass extinction is near and especially is welcome.
Never buy rev. A notebook is a decades old wisdom in Mac tech community, so revA issues never were uncommon. What has changed though is that back then you could rely on them having a stable revB. Nowadays they just wait 3 years and knowingly sell broken hardware...
 
What I can't get my head wrapped around is why Apple's QC has taken such a nosedive and why they let issues linger year after year...? It isn't as though they are lacking the budget to do things the right way the first time.
 
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