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Initial Reports Suggest macOS Catalina 10.15.2 May Fix 16-Inch MacBook Pro Popping Sound Bug for Some Users
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After the initial run of manufactured units any discovered defects will reflect in an updated Revision B, C, D, etc.
I get that. This year has felt worse because of the thick and fast bug fixes that have followed.
Did Apple share their code with you? If it's related to programming why aren't all Macbooks + Macs having the issue?
You are unfairly dismissing dissenting opinions as 'trolling'. No, if I'm spending over 2.5k for a computer, it should be flawless. You are paying for a luxury good.
Because we all know that Windows systems never have issues What a blue screen? That has not happened in years not!!!!!! Hello Doctor Watson Hello!
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Hmm, this system has a brand new audio system, so why are you assuming that it is a hardware issue and not software?. The machine came out after the first version of Catalina. You assume that Apple would catch all errors in the OS with Machine that was release so close and after the Launch of Catalina.
Remember firmware is software that can be upgraded. I got eproms for Andy Hertfield at my computer store in 1995 to fix a problem with the brand new Mac 512k model. I talked to him on the phone from Detroit to him in Cupertino in 1985. Yes I am a level 2 Apple Repair engineer and built and have worked with microcomputer for 44 years so yes their can be firmware or software issues. Tell me how you use a oscilloscope and hand trace a logic board and find voltage issues on lead on chips and then we can talk.
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I really hope it is nothing more than software, but Apple's silence about the issue is to me what is completely screwed up.
I had to call Apple in 1985 to talk directly with the Apple design engineers, back in the old days and that is how I got Andy on the phone. Wish had sent me a extra set with a signature, I could see it on eBay and be rich
So true, why even bother putting speakers in a laptop in the first place, no one should ever need them, they should all be buying AirPods Pro anyway.
While we are at it, how about small keyboards that strap to your fingers, I'd call them FingerKeys. And stop complaining about broken screens too, we should have ScreenGlasses. And CPU's that thermally throttle, get the new CPU that attaches to your, um, I don't know, private parts? I'd call them CPPUs (Central Processing Privates Units). Dongles? How about DongleDangles. Want real function keys, just get some FunctionKnees. That's pretty much solved all of our MBP problems [dusts hands off, puts new 0" MBP in back pocket].
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Maybe Apple swapped out all their experienced DSP and Audio engineers for thinner, lighter, graduate engineers
Well, you clearly didn't get the point. To put it another way: As an audio engineer working outside the studio, I would neither carry around a 7.1 studio monitor set nor would I work with built-in speakers. I simply use studio headphones.
I didn't write a word defending the issue itself, I simply disagree with 'pro audio people can't work because of this failure'. Using headphones is not a workaround, it's the way to go (for mobile audio work). Relying on laptop speakers would be a compromise.
You seem angry about a lot of things. Does your new 16" MBP thermally throttle? Does it have a broken screen?
Keys stopped working? This thread is about the '16-Inch MacBook Pro Popping Sound Bug', according to the title.
If you're pissed at apple, fine by me. I just don't like twisting facts to emphasize disapproval.
Also, I would associate a CPU a lot more with a brain and much less with genitals..
This is exactly why you as a consumer should return or hold off on buying this, until Apple can speak up on what’s causing the problem. With the amount of quality issues they’ve been having, people should be more distrustful. It’s your money. Make them work for it.
Says the guy who bought a 2018 MBP 13”
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This is exactly why you as a consumer should return or hold off on buying this, until Apple can speak up on what’s causing the problem. With the amount of quality issues they’ve been having, people should be more distrustful. It’s your money. Make them work for it.
Says the guy who bought a 2018 MBP 13”
No not really, that is why there is a one year manufacturing warranty and AppleCare + to follow up the one year.
ex-2018 15" user here - soon is not as soon as you think
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The problem is the T2 audio issue not only affected everything connected to the internal ports, but also ALL USB interfaces.
If this is indeed the same issue as before, using headphones won't do ****
IF this is the same issue. I normally use UAD interfaces which are connected via TB but I’ll have an USB Audient interface, so I’ll see if I can reproduce it.ex-2018 15" user here - soon is not as soon as you think
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The problem is the T2 audio issue not only affected everything connected to the internal ports, but also ALL USB interfaces.
If this is indeed the same issue as before, using headphones won't do ****
How many years is it going to take for Apple to sort out this T2 madness?!
The iPhone 8 (Plus) also had a problem with its speakers shortly after release, this was solved with iOS 11.0.2. https://www.ilounge.com/index.php/n...11-0-2-with-fix-for-iphone-8-speaker-problems
Be happy that it is a software issue, not a hardware issue.
No one is certain this is a software only issue. There's no evidence or conformation of this from Apple. It could be a combination of both hardware and software. The T2 chip may be causing more issues with audio. It is already a disaster for people who try and use USB 2 audio interfaces. Apple does not care what compatibility they break. They do their own thing!
I wonder if this release will fix the other 8-10 significant bugs in Catalina that make my computer unusable on some days. I thought about keeping a diary for this little Catalina adventure I've had over the past few months. Today my 5K iMac froze and logged me out without warning, and I lost my work. My iCloud drive still doesn't work, and anything I upload doesn't show on other devices unless I log out and log back in, which is a 20-30 minute process.
I hope Apple is held accountable for this like Microsoft when they released the horror show that was Windows ME. If they need to go every other year on releases, I'd be happy with that as long as they're usable. From what I can see, in their new product releases and their OSes, they aren't doing any sort of quality testing prior to release. Perhaps they've figured out people will still buy it and they can fix it along the way, kind of like the Apple Maps premiere. I hope that isn't the case.
I hope Apple is held accountable for this like Microsoft when they released the horror show that was Windows ME. If they need to go every other year on releases, I'd be happy with that as long as they're usable. From what I can see, in their new product releases and their OSes, they aren't doing any sort of quality testing prior to release. Perhaps they've figured out people will still buy it and they can fix it along the way, kind of like the Apple Maps premiere. I hope that isn't the case.
Unfortunately the Mac now is so very irrelevant, Apple could care very less as long as it meets revenue targets.
Once 100% Apple, today zero, there's a reason for that. Want to effect change STOP BUYING garbage. Then and only then will Apple wake up....
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Does the iPhone 8+ use the same hardware as the MBP? Use some common sense. Unless you're working on it actively at Apple, you don't know if it's hardware, software, or both.
This doesn't fix anything and this is a stupid article. No one at this website actually has ethics and care about massive crippling issues. They just want to write junk and get easy money, and keep the paid promos coming.
This author is one of three authors from this website I tweeted at or emailed. I also emailed their tip-line, as well as a competitor.
No one cared.
This author is one of three authors from this website I tweeted at or emailed. I also emailed their tip-line, as well as a competitor.
No one cared.
Maybe you should read this article from Macrumors.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/12/06/apple-plans-fix-16-inch-macbook-pro-popping-sound/
The memo shared with Apple Authorized Service Providers reads as follows:
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Use some common sense? Excuse me? Have you read this article of Macrumors including a quote from a Memo from Apple?
The memo shared with Apple Authorized Service Providers reads as follows: