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The first iPhone is the product which ballooned the smartphone market enough to generate these kinds of sales for a product as poor as the Droid. Motorola are capable of producing well designed phones, the Droid wasn't one of them. And before you flame me for being an iPhone fanboy, I don't use one.

It's a shame the smartphone market is now so ballooned with mediocrity, and on top of this we discover Windows Phone 7 will need jail-breaking too. HTC HD2 owners should be thankful they're not getting that nonsense inflicted upon them.

I wonder if Windows Phone 7 will re-create the disaster that is targeting Android based phones via the market place, I suspect Microsoft will attempt to impose a greater level of control over device specifications than Google (with their "open" ideals) ever could or would, but only time will tell.

Oh, and where is the HTC HD2 in this comparison, anyway? Or is this an Android-compared-to-iPhone only club?

What was the topic again!?
 
the nexus one owners can start a google group for themselves, won't be a very large one.
 
A lot probably has to do with it that the Nexus One doesn't support the most common North American 3G frequencies (UMTS 850 MHz and 1900 MHz) used by AT&T in US and Rogers/Fido/Bell/Telus in Canada.
 
The first iPhone is the product which ballooned the smartphone market enough to generate these kinds of sales for a product as poor as the Droid. Motorola are capable of producing well designed phones, the Droid wasn't one of them. And before you flame me for being an iPhone fanboy, I don't use one.

It's a shame the smartphone market is now so ballooned with mediocrity, and on top of this we discover Windows Phone 7 will need jail-breaking too. HTC HD2 owners should be thankful they're not getting that nonsense inflicted upon them.

I wonder if Windows Phone 7 will re-create the disaster that is targeting Android based phones via the market place, I suspect Microsoft will attempt to impose a greater level of control over device specifications than Google (with their "open" ideals) ever could or would, but only time will tell.

Oh, and where is the HTC HD2 in this comparison, anyway? Or is this an Android-compared-to-iPhone only club?

What was the topic again!?

Motorola V3 is awesome phone. I can call, I can send SMS and even take a picture if I really need and it's thin. If that's what you need it's awesome phone.
 
Google targeted it's primary sales base. It was EVERYWHERE on the internet. For weeks prior you couldn't load a web page without hearing about the iPhone killer. It was also reviewed on NPR, and in many print publications.

Google has a ton of clout and gobs of money. If they thought TV ads would help sell the thing, it would've been all over the TV as well.

Even if your statement is correct, it only points to Google being stupid. It does not lower the criteria and somehow make the Nexus One a success.

Rather hard to market something that can have all advertisement nullified by a simple browser plugin. ;)
 
Something to keep in mind when talking about the Droid versus the Nexus One is that the Droid came out a time when there was pent up demand for an iPhone like device amongst Verizon customers. There were a ton of people who wanted an iPhone or something like that but were unwilling to switch to AT&T. Since Droid came out first it got the benefit of that pent up demand and the Nexus One didn't.

This also has a lingering benefit to the Droid because while I've seen the Droid in the hands of many other people I've never seen a Nexus One. If I was in the market for one of these devices being able to get first hand impressions from a friend is definitely going to make me more likely to purchase it.

Having said that I've got an iPhone 3G and will probably upgrade it when the next release comes out. Really want the GS for the upgraded camera, but I'm being patient...
 
The iPhone has been so popular because it is what it is, a candy coated simple phone for the masses who don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to technology. The average consumer is happy with the "it just works" concept. They now see the limited and crippled Apple devices as "Magical".
 
The chronic complainers love to harp about the iPhone's lack of "openness" and Apple's heavy-handed control over various aspects of the phone and apps. But I'll be interested to see how the Droid will evolve and how Android's "openness" will most likely continue to fragment the market by making older versions of the OS and older hardware incompatible with newer releases.

It is worth noting that other manufacturers with far more open OSes (compared to Apple) seem to manage fine.

It is also worth noting that allowing people to install what they want from where they want isn't going to get in the way of Apple's hardware/OS release plans.
 
As long as google doesn't figure that online ads that target individuals by their browsing habits, although highly visible, aren't selling jack, I'm happy. I don't need them exploring television.

135k ain't bad for U.S. T-Mobile sales when the carrier didn't even advertise. We're talking about a half-assed web campaign for a relatively small target group on the 4th largest wireless carrier that already has an assortment of cheaper Android handsets.

If it were setup as Apple's competitor like DROID was, it would have had similar numbers. Good for Motorola and Verizon. I look forward to Moto getting the Nexus Two. Maybe SE will have a stab at the Nexus Three.

This also has a lingering benefit to the Droid because while I've seen the Droid in the hands of many other people I've never seen a Nexus One. If I was in the market for one of these devices being able to get first hand impressions from a friend is definitely going to make me more likely to purchase it.

I will say, I had my Nexus One for a week, and sold it to at least 5 of my friends and coworkers. It really is an impressive smartphone. The noise canceling feature and call quality did the selling. Without word of mouth sales, I think the Nexus One would have sold 35k units.
 
I think the iPhone established the market for these other phones. If it were not for the iPhone, I doubt the motorola model would have been as successful.

I doubt the Droid, Nexxus, etc. would even exist without the iPhone paving the way.
 
This is an intentionally misleading graph. They are comparing the most successful Android release to the least successful iPhone. The second gen versions of both OS's were far more successful then their 1.0 releases.
 
The Nexus One had PLENTY of publicity. 135k is NOT a lot of phones. I'm sure Google is disappointed, even if you are not.

Internet tech geek sites don't count in the grand scheme of things. There were no TV commercials or print articles about the Nexus One that would have reached the average Joe. So 135,000 is rather impressive for something that received no mainstream hype.
 
And yes, the Droid, Nexus One, and the rest of them owe a lot to Apple, the iPhone, and most importantly, the App Store. The iPhone was a pretty, slick, yet mediocre phone until the brilliant App Store was unveiled.
 
The iPhone has been so popular because it is what it is, a candy coated simple phone for the masses who don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to technology. The average consumer is happy with the "it just works" concept. They now see the limited and crippled Apple devices as "Magical".

Pretty general, and fairly insulting.
 
Are these results for the whole world? If I remember the iPhone was released on a global scale while the Nexus One is only available at the moment in the US. Hardly comparing Apple's with Apple's is it?
 
Are these results for the whole world? If I remember the iPhone was released on a global scale while the Nexus One is only available at the moment in the US. Hardly comparing Apple's with Apple's is it?

Pretty sure the initial iPhone release was either US-only, or just a handful of countries. Remember the whole "no one internationally will want it because it's 2G-only!" thing?
 
The iPhone has been so popular because it is what it is, a candy coated simple phone for the masses who don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to technology. The average consumer is happy with the "it just works" concept. They now see the limited and crippled Apple devices as "Magical".

Because people should want to use a complicated phone?
 
Are these results for the whole world? If I remember the iPhone was released on a global scale while the Nexus One is only available at the moment in the US. Hardly comparing Apple's with Apple's is it?

Pretty sure the UK and the rest of Europe got it in November.
 
Because people should want to use a complicated phone?

It would be far better to be an excrement coated complicated phone for the minority who do know their arse from their elbow when it comes to technology. :)

I guess that since me and all my microprocessor-designing, OS-writing, linux-hacking, Ph.D.-in-semiconductor-physics friends dote on our iPhones, the technological literacy of the United States must be far higher than I had suspected.
 
Hmm, this comparison is a little too Apples - to - Oranges for my liking.

iPhone and Nexus One were US-only. For Droid and Nexus' launch, smartphone market was significantly larger... etc.

Even still, the Nexus One sales are shockingly low...
 
Are these results for the whole world? If I remember the iPhone was released on a global scale while the Nexus One is only available at the moment in the US. Hardly comparing Apple's with Apple's is it?

The original iPhone was initially only on sale in the US. It went on sale in the UK, Germany and France 4 months later.
 
No advertising and basically stuck on t-mobile is what has hindered the Nexus One. The Nexus One is the first android phone that I wanted. If it only worked at full speed on the AT&T network I would have gotten one to try out.
 
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