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Initial Sales of Original iPhone, Droid, and Nexus One Compared

cybaster said:
Secretly lex here just wish he has an iPhone....

but yeah, simple phone? I like to see your Motorola RAZR do the things the iphone does.

And don't make "it just works" sound like an average Joe gimmick. 9.9 out of 10 people want a phone that JUST works. So everyone needs to be a techie to operate a phone? I can care less about people modding their phones with linux or whatever you might think is needed to show off to your friends who thinks "linux" is the definition of l33t.
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Simple phones for simple people, to each their own. :D
 
Nexus One numbers not surprising....

the phone has had virtually no mainstream marketing support compared to what was done for the Droid.

You would think that T-Mobile would have done a much better job promoting it since they had exclusivity for it for such a long time? Maybe they're just sour that it will be coming to the CDMA market soon? :p
 
lincolntran said:
So...Are you an all knowing in all area? If not, I bet there's a time when think to yourself, "why don't they just make something that is simple and work?" Are you interested in quantum physic or art? If you're not, don't you wish they can put all those things in layman terms? ... be honest now.

Is it the general public fault when they are not that into technology? Is it a crime/fault if the general public are more into car, art, hiking, etc... other than technology? Does that make the "techies" better than the general public?
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The average person in 2010 still does not know how to program a VCR. Is it because it's rocket science? No. It's because it takes an effort to read the manual and use your brain. We have become a society that is not being challenged to learn because we have devices that "just work". Remember before the cell phone when you could remember dozens of people home and work phone numbers? We now have devices that actually remember things for us. We are actually loosing the ability to remember. Imagine were we would be if more people were actually interested in technology and advancing it, rather than staring at art, or going for a hike.
 
lex750 said:
...to each their own.
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You should have just started there instead of throwing the insults. All phones have their merits and just because you don't value what the iPhone offers, doesn't mean that the owners are idiots.
Frankly using the Android or Palm or BlackBerry or WinMo is not the issue. they simply take more effort to perform the tasks that I am interested in and do so less elegantly.

I am already invested in the iPhone ecosphere, so switching phone will require far more then just being as good. I do have my eye on the N1, but it still doesn't offer me a compelling reason to switch. (besides TMO doesn't have a signal where I work)
 
lex750 said:
Google is trying to free the US market from the ball and chain concept of the " 2 year contract". This will take some time. I think this is an excellent move. That $99 iPhone will end up costing you $800 to $1000 on a overpriced 2 year contract with with a company who's service sucks.
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hogwash

Google isn't going to do anything to piss off it's Android partners, including the telco carriers. N1 was just a branding campaign since most people don't know that Android = Google
 
lex750 said:
... Imagine were we would be if more people were actually interested in technology and advancing it, rather than staring at art, or going for a hike.
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Natural and intuitive UI designs ARE advancing technology. It increases demand, which increases research funding, leading to increased power and functionality.
It would be crazy to suggest that a technologists phone from 5 years ago is more advanced then consumer phones like the N1 and iPhone are today.
 
err404 said:
You should have just started there instead of throwing the insults. All phones have their merits and just because you don't value what the iPhone offers, doesn't mean that the owners are idiots.
Frankly using the Android or Palm or BlackBerry or WinMo is not the issue. they simply take more effort to perform the tasks that I am interested in and do so less elegantly.

I am already invested in the iPhone ecosphere, so switching phone will require far more then just being as good. I do have my eye on the N1, but it still doesn't offer me a compelling reason to switch. (besides TMO doesn't have a signal where I work)
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Humm, what are these "tasks" that take more effort? Answering the phone? Sending an email? Checking your voice mail? Going online? I'm curious to know what you consider a task that is easier on the iPhone.
 
Shockingly low Droid sales

In other news, Vizio's newest 42" Plasma TV outsold Philips' original 42" Plasma in its first 74 days after release.

Of course, the Philips was released in 1997, and retailed for $14,999. :rolleyes:

C'mon, the world has changed in 3 years - Droid sells BECAUSE of the iPhone. The fact that it barely beat the iPhone's original sales (a device that sold for $599 and had NO app store) really is pretty abysmal for the Droid.
 
lex750 said:
The average person in 2010 still does not know how to program a VCR. Is it because it's rocket science? No. It's because it takes an effort to read the manual and use your brain. We have become a society that is not being challenged to learn because we have devices that "just work". Remember before the cell phone when you could remember dozens of people home and work phone numbers? We now have devices that actually remember things for us. We are actually loosing the ability to remember. Imagine were we would be if more people were actually interested in technology and advancing it, rather than staring at art, or going for a hike.
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People are built differently. You can't not make an artist or an olympic champion write software. They can't or at least can't do it as good as those who love "01110100 01100101 01100011 01101000". Imagine a world where most people just care about technology. What do you think that world would be?
 
US = Mobile Network

The Nexus One launched on T-Mobile which was a pretty bad idea for the US market. Unless you go Verizon or AT&T you will not get a lot of traction. Even Sprint would have been better than T-Mobile. I do expect sales to get a lot better when we see the Verizon version. However at that point a lot of the hype will have been lost and people will be talking more about the up coming iPhone more so it will never be a big seller. Google got the timing of this badly wrong IMHO.
 
I'd be interested in seeing initial sales figures of the G1 (the first Android phone) vs. the original iPhone compared to the initial sales figures of the Droid (the second heavily advertised, mass-market Android device after the G1) vs. the iPhone 3G. I think that would be a more apples-to-apples comparison.
 
lex750 said:
Imagine were we would be if more people were actually interested in technology and advancing it, rather than staring at art, or going for a hike.
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And imagine where we would be as a culture if more people had more time to become interested in admiring and understanding art, or going for a hike, rather than having to struggle with technology.
 
mccldwll said:
And imagine where we would be as a culture if more people had more time to become interested in admiring and understanding art, or going for a hike, rather than having to struggle with technology.
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Technology is only a "struggle" for those who have a mindset for failure.
 
lex750 said:
Humm, what are these "tasks" that take more effort? Answering the phone? Sending an email? Checking your voice mail? Going online? I'm curious to know what you consider a task that is easier on the iPhone.
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Then, if all of the typical tasks are essentially the same in terms of difficultly on all types of phones, then what virtues are you extolling in those phones that require a user to learn to use them?
 
ShiftyPig said:
Supposedly when N1 goes to Verizon there will be a massive traditional advertising campaign. Online doesn't count for squat, that's why it's so cheap. Anyways, I'm not sure I agree with Google's approach - it's a lot easier to sell a phone when someone can walk into a store and play with it versus taking a stab at something online and having to wait for it to arrive.
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Versus not living up to an expectation, going back, costing you a $40 restocking fee and the feeling that neither Google or HTC really cares about you in the end.

lex750 said:
What exactly is a "technologists phone"?
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Just ask The Professor!

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azazel- said:
But if everyone shared that view, how would you be able to maintain your elitist mentality?
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Elitist mentality? Why, because I believe people have the brains and the power to learn new technologies that are easy to learn if they just believe they could do it? When people say, "oh that's too complicated", all they are doing is selling up their mindset to fail. We are not asking people to build a spaceship here, just to learn how to use a cell phone, program a VCR, or maybe use a computer to send an email, simple stuff. Most people have this self made block on technology, like it's brain surgery. I don't understand it.
 
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