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Installed SSD, boot time only slightly faster

MaxPower49

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I have a 13" mid 2012 macbook pro. I just installed a Samsung 830 128gb SSD in the optical bay and used CCC to clone the OS drive over. Ran into a couple of issues, but finally got it working. Changed the boot disk to the SSD. Everything seems to be working fine, but boot up time didn't improve much over the HDD (from 53 secs down to 43 or so). Does that sound right? What should the boot time be? Programs do seem to launch faster though. The original HDD is still in there... could that be interfering with anything? I have a 1TB drive I'm going to replace it with once I make sure the SSD is ok.

Is there anything else I need to do? I thought about updating the SSD firmware, but now I see that you can't update the Samsung drives on OSX. Thoughts?

Thanks.
 

derbothaus

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Jul 17, 2010
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Choose disk and make sure it is highlighted in Startup Disk System Preference. My 2012 cMBP 2.6GHz with 6G OWC boots in under 15 secs. Maybe even less. I blame the logic board for the stall:)
 
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MaxPower49

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Choose disk and make sure it is highlighted in Startup Disk System Preference. My 2012 cMBP 2.6GHz with 6G OWC boots in under 15 secs. Maybe even less. I blame the logic board for the stall:)

Yes, the SSD is highlighted in startup disk. Any other ideas on other potential problems?
 
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yusukeaoki

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I don't have an optibay... just one of those generic $15 optical drive mounts. From what I've read, that doesnt matter and won't impact speed.

There was a post on this forum concerning the same thing.
They said in optibay, they did not get the speed of main bay but rathe SATA II speed.

Are you saying you're connecting to your SSD through USB?
Or do you mean its similar to optibay but a cheaper one?
 
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MaxPower49

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There was a post on this forum concerning the same thing.
They said in optibay, they did not get the speed of main bay but rathe SATA II speed.

Are you saying you're connecting to your SSD through USB?

No, the SSD is in the optical bay now. Sata II vs Sata III wouldn't make that big of a difference, would it. My boot time is around 45 seconds and people are saying it should be under 15.
 
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yusukeaoki

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No, the SSD is in the optical bay now. Sata II vs Sata III wouldn't make that big of a difference, would it. My boot time is around 45 seconds and people are saying it should be under 15.

Yeah... thats a huge problem.
My M4 128GB boots in 11 seconds...
And my old 500GB HDD@7200rpm boots under 20 sec.

SATA II is 3gbps.
SATA III is 6. I think there is a huge difference.
 
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rockyroad55

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Jul 14, 2010
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No, the SSD is in the optical bay now. Sata II vs Sata III wouldn't make that big of a difference, would it. My boot time is around 45 seconds and people are saying it should be under 15.

Actually III (600 MB/s) provides much faster speeds than II (300 MB/s).
 
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MaxPower49

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Try the switch or figure it out. We are giving your advice and you're just being combative.

Not trying to be combative. I just dont think this is a sata II vs sata III problem. I don't even think I'm getting sata II speeds right now.
 
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andyriot

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Jul 1, 2010
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So then why don't you look at System Profiler and see what it's reporting for Negotiated Speed, and/or run a disk speed test to see what your read and write are at.
 
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GadgetGeek407

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mine is late 2011 model with crucial m4 256gb, it boots in 9 second flat

I just bought two of these for the two macbook pro 13 models at home, I think the install is pretty easy right? did you clone your original drive or do a fresh install? Does that make a difference or not so much?
 
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Orlandoech

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Not trying to be combative. I just dont think this is a sata II vs sata III problem. I don't even think I'm getting sata II speeds right now.

Think and knowing ate two different things. I highly recommend putting the SSD in the main bay and doing a fresh install. Then run a disk speed test.

Also do a disk speed test prior to compare results.
 
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Rajpdx

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Jun 16, 2012
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Not trying to be combative. I just dont think this is a sata II vs sata III problem. I don't even think I'm getting sata II speeds right now.

I agree with you. Most of what is happening at boot up happens at less than Sata II speed but even at SATA II I'd expect in the region of 15 seconds.

That said, there may be other reasons - so in order I would try...

1) Put the SSD in the main bay (you paid for SATA III performance the HDD can't utilise it).

2) Install the OS again and see how a clean install boots up - it could be something that's migrated that's slowing down the startup.
 
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newjacksm

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Oct 20, 2009
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Think and knowing ate two different things. I highly recommend putting the SSD in the main bay and doing a fresh install. Then run a disk speed test.

Also do a disk speed test prior to compare results.

Listen to this man..... What else are you going to be doing anyways? Just posting on here, complaining? Everyone has given you the likely answer to your question.. If it doesnt work install the original HDD and bring it back to apple.
 
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retinarob

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Jul 26, 2012
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Not trying to be combative. I just dont think this is a sata II vs sata III problem. I don't even think I'm getting sata II speeds right now.

I mean c'mon, it's just logical to put the SSD in the main bay and the HDD in the optibay. If that doesn't work then come back and say it, but don't brush off answers. It's kinda rude.
 
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rockyroad55

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Jul 14, 2010
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I mean c'mon, it's just logical to put the SSD in the main bay and the HDD in the optibay. If that doesn't work then come back and say it, but don't brush off answers. It's kinda rude.

Just let him be. His computer, his issues. We gave excellent advice so he can take it if he wants to.
 
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