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Instant on & Lion - not instant..

hereyago said:
I come from windows and it used to take around 30 seconds to boot though.

But you're right. I can't believe people are complaining about 3 seconds :eek:
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It's not something that is a problem for anyone, it's not important whether or not the wake up time is 1 or 3 seconds, but it's an advertised feature and something many love and think of as an awesomeness factor.

My 2c

I'm not bothered by the delay, but if there was none, it would be so much cooler.
 
ZBoater said:
Wow guys. I mean, wow. Ok, I get it. I guess since i come from Windows and the land of the 3 minute boot, anything under 5 seconds is pretty much instant to me. For me at least the difference between 5 seconds and 3 seconds and "instant" is just not that important. I can wait. :D
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Once you get used to "instant on" (and even my old MacBook Air from November 2008 was pretty "instant on") you notice the lag on the new machines. I wasn't sure if it was a firmware thing or a Lion thing, but with people reporting it on their upgraded 2010s, it is looking like a Lion thing. Hopefully 10.7.1 fixes these issues.

There are other bugs right now, too, such as the deep sleep issue, that may be firmware-related.
 
i have a 2010 macbook air and its about 3-4 seconds now with SL,
however it used be around 1-2 when i first got it figuring it was one of the software updates that caused it.
 
Same thing happens on my 11" 2010 ultimate running Lion. I really hope Apple fix this. Sure it's only a few seconds but it makes a difference
 
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It's not Windows slow, but it is slower than when we were running Snow Leopard. It just seems like something that should have either stayed the same or been improved. The startup/shutdown times blew my mind when I first opened my MBP after years of Windows (And particularly during Vista pre 7).
 
The Norman said:
It's not Windows slow, but it is slower than when we were running Snow Leopard. It just seems like something that should have either stayed the same or been improved. The startup/shutdown times blew my mind when I first opened my MBP after years of Windows (And particularly during Vista pre 7).
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Windows 7 resume from sleep is about 4-5 seconds or so. My MBA took 10 seconds to resume this morning, not sure why. Usually it's 2-3 seconds or so.

In terms of startup/shutdown the MBA is insanely fast.
 
Akamatsu said:
6 seconds from black to cursor on mine.
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If I leave it plugged in so it doesn't go into deep sleep, it takes maybe 2 seconds to show the login screen (for my encryption password) but then it immediately hooks up to Wi-Fi, so it's a wash compared to my 2010.

However, if I let it go into deep sleep, it definitely takes closer to 10 seconds, and it occasionally "forgets" my wi-fi connection is a preferred network, meaning I need to select it manually. This was vs about 5 seconds in Snow Leopard.

Hopefully a fix is coming soon.
 
Same here,.. in snow leopard my 2010 ultimate 11" woke up instantly, could use it right away, with lion it takes like 8-10 seconds,.. maybe a small thing, but really annoying. Especially when "instant on" was a feature apple was really enthusiast about :)
 
Just had another weird bug happen after my 2011 MBA came out of sleep. It came out fairly fast, I entered my password, and then the mouse worked, but clicking did nothing. I thought I was going to have to restart it by holding the power button, but entering and coming out of sleep again seemed to fix it.
 
I've grown to dislike this startup delay s much that I went and installed SmartSleep utility that allows you to just put computer into a regular sleep mode when it's closed, instead of the deep sleep mode that it goes to after an hour or so. This way the computer is fully ready to use before I'm finished lifting the screen up.

Battery drains faster this way, but I don't really care as I'm almost always close to a charger, and it really does get annoying after a while that computer takes almost 10 seconds to fully wake from the sleep, cursor keeps jumping around, application that was left open is sluggish almost to the point of crashing etc.
 
Same problem here. Lion takes 2-3x longer than SL to fully wake.
 
Marconelly said:
I've grown to dislike this startup delay s much that I went and installed SmartSleep utility that allows you to just put computer into a regular sleep mode when it's closed, instead of the deep sleep mode that it goes to after an hour or so. This way the computer is fully ready to use before I'm finished lifting the screen up.

Battery drains faster this way, but I don't really care as I'm almost always close to a charger, and it really does get annoying after a while that computer takes almost 10 seconds to fully wake from the sleep, cursor keeps jumping around, application that was left open is sluggish almost to the point of crashing etc.
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So Apple changed sleep mode and that's causing the delay?
It's not instant-on here with 13 ultimate 2011 btw.
 
Those of you with this problem. Do you have a third party program that checks for something online automatically? For example an email checker, RSS reader, or something similar? Also next question do you all use the log in window when resuming from sleep?

Just trying to boil down the problem to a solution. I read in another thread that if you turn off wifi it will become instant.
 
I also suspect that either the new machines' firmware, or Lion itself, sets the deep sleep (suspend) mode to kick in much, much sooner than on previous machine.

For example, my aluminum MacBook will sit in sleep mode when I close the lid and remain that way for a day or two until the battery is completely depleted. Then if I plug it in and start it up, it'll load the suspend image off the HD. This takes a good 20-30 seconds or so. And the battery will be completely empty.

The new Airs, from what I can tell, enter the deep sleep/suspend mode after a couple of hours so the battery doesn't continue to drain. This is why it takes 10 seconds or to reload the image off the SSD. But the battery won't be dead.

Coming out of (light) sleep mode, I agree should be a little faster, but it looks to me like it's a wifi-reconnect cycle occurring BEFORE the desktop comes up and not after. That's why turning off the wifi before closing the lid speeds up the wake cycle.
 
No-Me said:
Same here,.. in snow leopard my 2010 ultimate 11" woke up instantly, could use it right away, with lion it takes like 8-10 seconds,.. maybe a small thing, but really annoying. Especially when "instant on" was a feature apple was really enthusiast about :)
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:rolleyes: Seriously? People can't wait that long to start using it? Wow!!
 
Compared to every computer I've had in the past, the speed of resume of the Macbook Air is amazing. Blows everything out of the water.

I agree however, it is not "instant on" like the iPad/iPhone.
 
rsvrfactory said:
:rolleyes: Seriously? People can't wait that long to start using it? Wow!!
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With snow leopard it was literally less than a second before I could use it,.. now it's worse than my parents 7 year old iBook. I used to open & close my air quite often during meetings, than you notice the difference :).

When apple introduced the 2010 Air less than a year ago, one of the main features was "instant on".
 
My new MBA 13" i5 wakes quicker than any other laptop or desktop I have ever had. Wake time is no more than 2 seconds which is close enough to instant on for me.
 
my wake has a strange lag

1) greyish/black screen
2) cursor appears, but will not move
3) sign in comes up and its all good.

any help?
 
I wonder why Apple decided to market "instant on" in the first place. It's not really instant, as it takes just as long as my old Macbook does to wake. They should have called it "quiet on" since that's the pleasant thing about waking a SSD MBA from sleep :p
 
There is another thread regarding this problem, see here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1201719/

There have been reports of WiFi issues with Lion - in the above thread I suggested the slow wake ups might be WiFi-related, they don't seem to happen to everyone (my 13" 2011 MBA wakes up nearly as fast as my wife's 2010 11" MBA for instance).

Several people tried turning off their wifi before putting the laptop to sleep, and they noticed a definite speed improvement upon waking. It may have something to do with DHCP IP address negotiation, as some folks were able to speed up their wake times by assigning static IPs to their machines.

Worth a shot.
 
I assume most of you have tried the command line fix already right?

sudo chown root:admin /
sudo kextcache -system-prelinked-kernel
sudo kextcache -system-caches


One at a time and give it time to process.
 
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